Use TO to his strength's and I promise you this...

[LittleBoyBlue]

Deflect much?

Address it or you are weak sauce.

Can that "weak sauce" be spread over some "burned toast"??

LOL.

So you tried to call me out and defend him with a direct qoute from him.

Then you just said that all the players talk out of both sides of their mouth.

So then why use the qoute in the first place as your proving point?

Don't answer. We don't care.

You do. You live and breath the man that is Terrell Owens.

 

[dadymat]

ive got a better idea...use all of our offensive weapons to their potential and we win multiple SB's...then we can hear all the players give praise to each other and watch TO squirm cause he only caught 2 balls...

i get so sick of hearing we need to do this for TO or do that for TO..its a team sport

 

[DallasEast]

ive got a better idea...use all of our offensive weapons to their potential and we win multiple SB's...then we can hear all the players give praise to each other and watch TO squirm cause he only caught 2 balls...

i get so sick of hearing we need to do this for TO or do that for TO..its a team sport

That's an excellent suggestion. Hopefully, e-v-e-r-y (no exceptions) player and coach will shut up and do their upmost for accomplishing just that.

 

[Hostile]

Him not winning a Super Bowl had more to do with McNabb & Reid than Owens. Owens played well enough that day to earn a ring.

One day out of 13 seasons.

Good evidence.

 

[SteveOS]

I love me some more TO threads.

 

[Hostile]

Of late, especially... you have problems with Pro TO threads. Thats fine.

That is the best part of your post = its accurate.

For all intents and purposes - he went to Philly and they darn near won the SB in his first year there.Spygate/McNabb = why they lost. The TO acquisition was that close to working.


For me personally... if we cut him and got better and won the SB - I would love and be fine. I dont need TO on this team.

But some posters NEED him to be off the team at any cost.

If I disagree with a premise of a thread it means I have problems with the thread? Where am I griping about the thread? I offered my 2 cents on the topic at hand, which I see as "using him properly." Am I not allowed to?

I don't think he has ever been used improperly.

I don't need him off this team at all costs. I would personally prefer he just shut up. He can talk the talk, but I'd rather see him walk the walk.

 

[Ultra Warrior]

Sorry I missed these earlier.

so you're just gonna write off the bad comments huh?

Nope. Just pointing out that he says things from a ME standpoint & a TEAM standpoint as well. Easy to judge him while thinking one sided.

Yeah and the rest of the team played well enough in previous playoff games to afford him the opportunity to play in the Super Bowl.

Right?

That they did but the discussion was on him winning a Super Bowl, not the games that got them TO the Super Bowl.

One day out of 13 seasons.

Good evidence.

We are discussing the Super Bowl right?

 

[Doomsday101]

You are a funny guy and I like you.
(the old Jedi-inference-mind trick)

Where oh where is it implied to change the WHOLE offense??

We saw plenty of examples of where the ENTIRE offense was shut down MORE THAN ONCE.

3 and out.. 3 and out... 3 and out.... just baffles the mind.

We are not a WCO when you mentioned it I assumed that is what you were referring to. Yes the offense did have a lot of 3 and outs especially late in the season some due to the defense we were facing but some because of poor execution of the offense. I want TO to be part of the offense however I'm not interested in making him the center piece of it, he is 35 and we have some other skill players including 3 very talented RB who I would much rather give a greater role to

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

"Using TO properly" means "however he decides."

That is my general problem with this thread. I believe that using him properly means doing whatever it takes to win. That could include phasing him out. It could include waiving him. He would never be okay with either option.

He is a weapon. He is also a distraction to his own team. That is why despite other worldly talent he has never won a Super Bowl and why having him on a roster is no guarantee we will either.

I could care less what he would say to show his gratitude. He could show me his dedication by shutting up. I would appreciate that much more than his gratitude. I believe that would get us closer to winning than catering to him ever will.

If I disagree with a premise of a thread it means I have problems with the thread? Where am I griping about the thread. I offered my 2 cents on the topic at hand, which I see as "using him properly." Am I not allowed to?

I don't think he has ever been used improperly.
I don't need him off this team at all costs. I would personally prefer he just shut up. He can talk the talk, but I'd rather see him walk the walk.

I apologize. When you said you have problems with this thread I thought it meant you had problems with the thread.

(next up: slicing and dicing of the above two posts to explain to me how I misunderstood it - stay tuned).



We will agree to disagree on this.

Wasnt directed at you. It was in general from some posters.

 

[Yoshimitsu]

Hell.

T.O. sometimes can make the offense fail.

It always happens when he starts crying for the ball.

Honestly if Romo was spreading the ball around every game and we were winning T.O. would start crying about him not getting a bigger role in the Wins.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

We are not a WCO when you mentioned it I assumed that is what you were referring to. Yes the offense did have a lot of 3 and outs especially late in the season some due to the defense we were facing but some because of poor execution of the offense. I want TO to be part of the offense however I'm not interested in making him the center piece of it, he is 35 and we have some other skill players including 3 very talented RB who I would much rather give a greater role to

I really didnt leave anything for you to have to assume. Just add a few plays from WCO system. Thats all.

 

[Yoshimitsu]

We are not a WCO when you mentioned it I assumed that is what you were referring to. Yes the offense did have a lot of 3 and outs especially late in the season some due to the defense we were facing but some because of poor execution of the offense. I want TO to be part of the offense however I'm not interested in making him the center piece of it, he is 35 and we have some other skill players including 3 very talented RB who I would much rather give a greater role to

I think that would be the best thing for Romo and this team. I really hope our identity in the coming years to run the ball. At the end of the season it seemed like we had no identity on offense. If we are more run oriented this year i hope T.O. chills and just accepts it.

 

[Hostile]

We are discussing the Super Bowl right?

You seem to be discussing 1 particular Super Bowl. I seem to think he has missed getting his team there 12 other times. Surely he hasn't been misused for all 13 seasons.

 

[Hostile]

I apologize. When you said you have problems with this thread I thought it meant you had problems with the thread.

(next up: slicing and dicing of the above two posts to explain to me how I misunderstood it - stay tuned).



We will agree to disagree on this.

Wasnt directed at you. It was in general from some posters.

Okay. I should have said with the general premise of this thread.

That is a fair interpretation given the incomplete language I used.

 

[Doomsday101]

I think that would be the best thing for Romo and this team. I really hope our identity in the coming years to run the ball. At the end of the season it seemed like we had no identity on offense. If we are more run oriented this year i hope T.O. chills and just accepts it.

Given the talent at RB I would hope so as well. We have 3 young RB who have very good skills and we should use them. As you said it would help Romo and I think it would make the overall passing game even more dangerous as defense would be forced to key on stopping the run.

What tick me off with TO is when we lose it become all about him getting the ball and I don’t think this offense should be overly concerned about getting TO the ball, there will be games just as there were this season where TO is going to have a big day but we should not try and force the ball into him just to keep him or any player happy.

He is a player not a coach his job is to carry out the assignment and execute not to call the plays or dictate to the team

 

[DragonCowboy]

One day out of 13 seasons.

Good evidence.

In his defense, he was referring to theebs saying that TO will never win a Super Bowl. He did play well in that Super Bowl.

HOWEVER, this does not matter. It's sickening how many times we have to force it to TO, only to see minimal results. His production this year was absolutely not worth it. If he's gonna have another year where he starts all this crap and doesn't have the production to show for it, I hope Jerry shows him the door.

I'm sick and tired of TO's act, and I'm sick and tired of the, "omg if the cowboys just use him correctly, we'd be SB champions!!!" No, it doesn't work that way. We're not going to change our entire offense to suit the needs of a crybaby 36 year old. Yeah, Garrett needs some work. Yeah, Romo needs some work. However, these are guys who have not been shown to be "Team Obliterators", and they're relatively new in what they do. I think it's time to get rid of TO. I'm with theebs on this one.

 

[Bleu Star]

As far as T O, think about this, why does your star WR have to get onto the offensive lnemen by himself.

When an offensive linemen like Flozell Adams says, I played a good game, while the other other offensive linemen all said they stunk the place up in the arizona game, Then there is where the problem lies.


Why wasnt the star QB getting onto the offensive linemen, why wasnt the star QB getting with the offensive cooordinator on the sideline in that arizona game and looking at film. ON one series, a cowboy coach was trying to show romo a picture, and romo pushed it away and went and sat on the bench by himself. While T O was trying to pump the players up to play better.

Thats whats wrong with this team, not enough leaders on this team that hold themselves accountable and their teammates,

If I had just one dollar for the number of times I have harped on this I would be rich by now. Hopefully Romo steps it up in the 09. We already know he has the tools. Now it's time to show he can put it all together consistently, play smart, and lead lead lead..

 

[Bleu Star]

Dude, this argument is so empty.

If every other Eagle would have played at the level T.O. played in their Super Bowl, .. they WOULD have WON the Super Bowl that day!

And it's not like the Niners nor the Eagles are stacking up Lombardi trophies since he left each team.

You just never have liked Owens, .. we get it.

Oh you noticed too eh?

 

[Bleu Star]

You do. You live and breath the man that is Terrell Owens.

yeppers. dcfanatic loves him some anti TO agenda. He should go ahead and change that name from dcfanatic to iHate.

 

[NextGenBoys]

When we win the SB with him... he will say the following first:

1. I want to thank Jerry for the opportunity
2. I want to thank Coach Wade for respecting us and letting us do our thing
3. I want to thank Coach Garrett for drawing up a great offensive game plan
4. I want to thank Tony Romo, "he's my boy"
5. And most of all, "I want to thank the fans of Dallas" - I wanted to help this team win a SB and WE did.

Yes. I believe that.
His comments after victories speak for themselves.

I believe that to. That is the main reason I'm "Pro" T.O. for next year as far as returning.

But no one can defend that his presence brings plenty of baggage and negative issues to a team. If he is not involved enough and we lose, we are going to hear about it.

And I dont want to hear the "He's only about winning" That's BS. He's about winning first, and his numbers are a VERY close second. If he doesnt get either, he is a problem, plain and simple.