Use TO to his strength's and I promise you this...

[Dave_in-NC]

When we win the SB with him... he will say the following first:

1. I want to thank Jerry for the opportunity
2. I want to thank Coach Wade for respecting us and letting us do our thing
3. I want to thank Coach Garrett for drawing up a great offensive game plan
4. I want to thank Tony Romo, "he's my boy"
5. And most of all, "I want to thank the fans of Dallas" - I wanted to help this team win a SB and WE did.

Yes. I believe that.
His comments after victories speak for themselves.

Thnx for the laughs.

 

[WV Cowboy]

I'm sick and tired of TO's act,

There is the truth, .. I can live with that.

But you people that say we shouldn't force the ball to Owens have not coached.

Force is a bad word, by that I just mean "make it a point" to get the ball to your stars.

You can't let the other team dictate to you that your #1 WR won't get touches.

No matter what the defense does, there is no reason that your #1 WR should not get 3-5 catches for 50-60 yds in a game.

I don't care who your #1 WR is, he is your #1 for a reason, ... because he is a game breaker.

And I learned early on in my coaching days, get the ball in the hands of your stars.

It's not rocket surgery.

Don't try to out-think the other team. Don't try to trick them.

At the end of the day just make sure your stars had the ball in their hands and a chance to win the game.

So whether your #1 WR is Owens, Moss, Harrison, Fitzgerald, get the ball in the hands of your stars as much as you can and be as creative as you can.

Then on a good day your #1 WR gets 6-8 catches for 150 or something.

We need to force the ball to Felix Jones too, because he is a game-breaker as well.

You get the ball to Williams, Crayton, Austin, .. you force it to Owens.

You get the ball to MB3 and T. Choice, you force it to F. Jones.

Why? Because they are game changers. They can take it to the house from any where at any moment. Get them touches!

So we can get rid of T.O., that's fine, as long as we get another #1 WR that is a game changer.

And whoever that is, force him the ball too.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

yeppers. dcfanatic loves him some anti TO agenda. He should go ahead and change that name from dcfanatic to iHate.

lol.... maybe he should change name to TOFanatic
(I am sure that DCFanatic is a good guy(when he is sleeping))

Nah... but seriously... Owens has his detractors and apologists... I think a case can be made for both sides. I just want to win. I think he can help us. That is all.

I believe that to. That is the main reason I'm "Pro" T.O. for next year as far as returning.

But no one can defend that his presence brings plenty of baggage and negative issues to a team. If he is not involved enough and we lose, we are going to hear about it.

And I dont want to hear the "He's only about winning" That's BS. He's about winning first, and his numbers are a VERY close second. If he doesnt get either, he is a problem, plain and simple.

The guy flat out balled on the sidelines when he made "The Catch II" and was crying AND the first thing he did in locker room was thank ALL of his team mates. FIRST.

That will happen again IF we win SB.

Thnx for the laughs.

Forget about it Dave, forget about it... I told you... its all about you

 

[Dave_in-NC]

lol.... maybe he should change name to TOFanatic
(I am sure that DCFanatic is a good guy(when he is sleeping))

Nah... but seriously... Owens has his detractors and apologists... I think a case can be made for both sides. I just want to win. I think he can help us. That is all.





The guy flat out balled on the sidelines when he made "The Catch II" and was crying AND the first thing he did in locker room was thank ALL of his team mates. FIRST.

That will happen again IF we win SB.



Forget about it Dave, forget about it... I told you... its all about you

No, it's all about owscum.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

WV... You said you coached... Do you think team cohesiveness doesn't matter? Or could it be that the level you coached didn't have a character like TO in the locker room? He is a unique character, after all.

Or, maybe you don't think TO has done anything negative to the locker room.

But I do have to say that I don't think TO would be happy with the 4 catches for 50 yards type of average game you cite. No way.

 

[anj113]

Yes his strengths will help us but not as much as his weakness would hurt us.

And lets not forget the guy is another year older.

 

[theebs]

Yes his strengths will help us but not as much as his weakness would hurt us.

And lets not forget the guy is another year older.

do not be confused.

AGE does not matter in Dallas.

guys never get old, never lose a step.....

not in Dallas.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

do not be confused.

AGE does not matter in Dallas.

guys never get old, never lose a step.....

not in Dallas.

Dont be confused. At his AGE he is still running(literally running AND stat-wise) with the young'uns. Had his 2nd best year EVER in his 2nd year with us.

 

[Rampage]

Sorry I missed these earlier.

Nope. Just pointing out that he says things from a ME standpoint & a TEAM standpoint as well. Easy to judge him while thinking one sided.


That they did but the discussion was on him winning a Super Bowl, not the games that got them TO the Super Bowl.


We are discussing the Super Bowl right?

he's one of the few on this team that even has a "me standpoint". what you've wrote in this thread is laughable. in fact:laugh2: I'm laughing at you as I type this.

 

[Ultra Warrior]

he's one of the few on this team that even has a "me standpoint". what you've wrote in this thread is laughable. in fact:laugh2: I'm laughing at you as I type this.

Retards usually laugh at nothing.

 

[Rampage]

Retards usually laugh at nothing.

 

[Ultra Warrior]

despite other worldly talent he has never won a Super Bowl

Him not winning a Super Bowl had more to do with McNabb & Reid than Owens. Owens played well enough that day to earn a ring.

One day out of 13 seasons.

Good evidence.

We are discussing the Super Bowl right?

You seem to be discussing 1 particular Super Bowl. I seem to think he has missed getting his team there 12 other times. Surely he hasn't been misused for all 13 seasons.

He's only played in 1 Super Bowl to have won or lost it. My point was that his losing the only one he's played in may not have been HIS fault, which seemed to have been your original point.

 

[Hostile]

He's only played in 1 Super Bowl to have won or lost it. My point was that his losing the only one he's played in may not have been HIS fault, which seemed to have been your original point.

No, I wasn't blaming him for the Super Bowl loss. I'm just saying that he isn't the x factor that equals Super Bowl because he has never won one despite the fact he has been a part of what is arguably some of the most Offensively talented teams in the NFL on more than one occasion. I'll list just the years he was on playoff teams.


1996 49ers...12 wins, 398 points.

1997 49ers...13 wins, 375 points

1998 49ers...12 wins, 479 points.

2001 49ers...12 wins, 409 points.

2002 49ers...10 wins, 367 points.

2004 Eagles...13 wins, 386 points.

2006 Cowboys...9 wins, 425 points.

2007 Cowboys...13 wins, 455 points.

He blew his chance in 2005 and 2008 when the Eagles and Cowboys were expected to be the best teams in the NFL.

From where I sit that is 10 of his 13 years in the NFL that he had a legitimate chance to win a Super Bowl and didn't get it done.

In other words I am saying he is not a catalyst and at least twice he has been a detriment, 2008 it is debatable whether he was or not.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

He's only played in 1 Super Bowl to have won or lost it. My point was that his losing the only one he's played in may not have been HIS fault, which seemed to have been your original point.

I have to add...


In the 14 regular season games he played that year in Philly.... they darn near went undefeated 13-1.

 

[Ultra Warrior]

No, I wasn't blaming him for the Super Bowl loss. I'm just saying that he isn't the x factor that equals Super Bowl because he has never won one despite the fact he has been a part of what is arguably some of the most Offensively talented teams in the NFL on more than one occasion. I'll list just the years he was on playoff teams.


1996 49ers...12 wins, 398 points.

1997 49ers...13 wins, 375 points

1998 49ers...12 wins, 479 points.

2001 49ers...12 wins, 409 points.

2002 49ers...10 wins, 367 points.

2004 Eagles...13 wins, 386 points.

2006 Cowboys...9 wins, 425 points.

2007 Cowboys...13 wins, 455 points.

He blew his chance in 2005 and 2008 when the Eagles and Cowboys were expected to be the best teams in the NFL.

From where I sit that is 10 of his 13 years in the NFL that he had a legitimate chance to win a Super Bowl and didn't get it done.

In other words I am saying he is not a catalyst and at least twice he has been a detriment, 2008 it is debatable whether he was or not.

Alrighty. We are on the same page now.

 

[Hostile]

Alrighty. We are on the same page now.

I kind of thought we were, just looking at it from different angles.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

When we win the SB with him... he will say the following first:

1. I want to thank Jerry for the opportunity
2. I want to thank Coach Wade for respecting us and letting us do our thing
3. I want to thank Coach Garrett for drawing up a great offensive game plan
4. I want to thank Tony Romo, "he's my boy"
5. And most of all, "I want to thank the fans of Dallas" - I wanted to help this team win a SB and WE did.

Yes. I believe that.
His comments after victories speak for themselves.

After Dallas lost to the G-Men in the playoffs last year Owens said 'that's my quarterback.' It's not like he hasn't acted this way before after LOSSES, much less wins.

But for some reason fans want to believe the Mr. Blue Suit story, from ONE anonymous source who 'regularly speaks to Owens' teammates.' Give me a break.




YAKUZA

 

[dcfanatic]

There is the truth, .. I can live with that.

But you people that say we shouldn't force the ball to Owens have not coached.

Force is a bad word, by that I just mean "make it a point" to get the ball to your stars.

You can't let the other team dictate to you that your #1 WR won't get touches.

No matter what the defense does, there is no reason that your #1 WR should not get 3-5 catches for 50-60 yds in a game.

I don't care who your #1 WR is, he is your #1 for a reason, ... because he is a game breaker.

And I learned early on in my coaching days, get the ball in the hands of your stars.

It's not rocket surgery.

Don't try to out-think the other team. Don't try to trick them.

At the end of the day just make sure your stars had the ball in their hands and a chance to win the game.

So whether your #1 WR is Owens, Moss, Harrison, Fitzgerald, get the ball in the hands of your stars as much as you can and be as creative as you can.

Then on a good day your #1 WR gets 6-8 catches for 150 or something.

We need to force the ball to Felix Jones too, because he is a game-breaker as well.

You get the ball to Williams, Crayton, Austin, .. you force it to Owens.

You get the ball to MB3 and T. Choice, you force it to F. Jones.

Why? Because they are game changers. They can take it to the house from any where at any moment. Get them touches!

So we can get rid of T.O., that's fine, as long as we get another #1 WR that is a game changer.

And whoever that is, force him the ball too.

Not to bang on you here.

But any coach in the world will tell you that a team truly has no #1 WR.

The #1 option is always the guy that gets a favorable matchup depending on the defensive set when you get to the LOS.

Then it's the guy who is open after that.

The QB is supposed to read and release, not read and then look for his '#1 WR' and see if he is open before then going to the guy with the favorable matchup.

 

[bysbox1]

T.O. is never going to win a super bowl.

T.O. is never going to play in a super bowl again.

After he is released he is going to have a hard time finding a team to put up with him. All of the west coast offensive coaches who love him are out of the league right now.

but rest assured he isnt winning anything ever.

You don't know if he will be released . . . you should have said "If he is released"

Another agenda . . .

 

[dcfanatic]

He's only played in 1 Super Bowl to have won or lost it. My point was that his losing the only one he's played in may not have been HIS fault, which seemed to have been your original point.

Is this your cousin?