Vikings refuse to release Adrian Peterson

[Crown Royal]

Dropping 18 spots in this draft almost means nothing to me.

Now would you give up a first and/or second in next year's draft to make this happen as well?

 

[Dave_in-NC]

i agree and last year all our FA needed was Melton to make it happen. I get what you are saying. I see it the same way. AP is not going or make or break our year. If anything else, like last year it will be what the other teams do.

Hardy is the type of player that will make your defense way better than it was, because it's a bunch of hardhat guys that just got a boss.
Our offense is damn talented, broke records, QB should have been league MVP, WR is a top three, very good Oline. We want to win the SB we need more help on defense. To me that's all it would take.
You have to have balance.

 

[Outlaw Heroes]

Now would you give up a first and/or second in next year's draft to make this happen as well?

Don't think I consider it if it means I walk away with fewer premium picks (defined roughly as picks in the first 3 rounds).

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Well, the latest from twitterverse, I think, have the Oakland, Jacks and Dallas as the interested parties...

If thats the case, i know big if, you have to think we have preference. AP wants to be paid, but why on earth would he go to the other teams?

I do believe AZ is still in the running. And they may need him more then we do.....

I cant see any other teams stepping up...... NE? Denver? Giants?

I think it will come down to AZ and Dallas.....but this has been a crazy off season. Philly came out of no where to get DM.

Does it matter what team want's him with Minny taking the stance they are? I think they will do any thing in their power to make sure Dallas doesn't get him.

 

[Risen Star]

Now would you give up a first and/or second in next year's draft to make this happen as well?

Yes. A first for a second. This or next year. But in the same year. If I don't have a 1st, I want two 2nds that year.

I'd gamble that Peterson is still the same player and if he is that means the Cowboys have the best RB in the league.

 

[Crown Royal]

Yes. A first for a second. This or next year. But in the same year. If I don't have a 1st, I want two 2nds that year.

I'd gamble that Peterson is still the same player and if he is that means the Cowboys have the best RB in the league.

Yeah I think so long as I'm switching my first for their second I would do that as well.

I would NOT just give it up straight up without getting a pick in return. I want my top 100 draft picks.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

You guys have all lost your minds. We had the best runner by 500 yards last year and we won 1 playoff game. Assuming Hardy plays we have no money for AD anyway, so its moot, but I have yet to hear a good reason why we would want him given that we let the best runner in football last year go because he was older and going to cost a lot of money. AD is older and will cost just as much and now you are talking about giving up draft picks for him.

Too many Madden players around here...I don't get it.

You have a very valid point.

-I dont pay Murray what the Eagles paid him.
-Even at 30, AP is 10x better then Murray.

-I think Dallas was thinking they had a shot at retaining Murray. I think the Big contract caught them by surprise , just a little. I know, a lot of people don't agree with that, and I am stretching with that guess. But this off season has been nuts....

- I just cant believe for one second, the Cowboys go into next season, with DMF, Williams, Randle and a Rookie..... -- Now, the RBBC, isn't that bad of an idea. It could very well work. I wont be that disappointed if that's the route we go.

- Some think the year off is bad for AP. Others think it was good, saved him from the year Murray just had......

- Getting AP would put this team closer to the SB , more so then any other move they could make. AP WANTS to be here.......

- I dont think its an "All In" kind of move either. Yes, your telling your team, fans, league, this is a Super Bowl year run. But, I don't think you have to mortgage the future to make it happen.....2 year contract. 3 tops. We aren't on the hook for any money in year 3.

In 2-3 years, it is my belief, we will be looking for a new QB anyway....And most likely , however good the new QB is, it will take some time to adjust....; who knows what that will look like.

 

[BAT]

It isn't crazy to think Peterson is old. He is old by NFL standards for running backs.

Old perhaps, washed up, no way.

 

[lostar2009]

vikings are desperate to get something for him; and the fact that his most likely new team is the Boys probably just makes the cheese bind a little harder.

They will never forget how we raped and sodomized them in the HW deal.
And that that trade was a key part of our 3 SB wins.

Yeah but they not letting him go until they rob some team out of picks. I think he is worth a 2nd but that is as high I would give up for him.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

You have a very valid point.

-I dont pay Murray what the Eagles paid him.
-Even at 30, AP is 10x better then Murray.

-I think Dallas was thinking they had a shot at retaining Murray. I think the Big contract caught them by surprise , just a little. I know, a lot of people don't agree with that, and I am stretching with that guess. But this off season has been nuts....

- I just cant believe for one second, the Cowboys go into next season, with DMF, Williams, Randle and a Rookie..... -- Now, the RBBC, isn't that bad of an idea. It could very well work. I wont be that disappointed if that's the route we go.

- Some think the year off is bad for AP. Others think it was good, saved him from the year Murray just had......

- Getting AP would put this team closer to the SB , more so then any other move they could make. AP WANTS to be here.......

- I dont think its an "All In" kind of move either. Yes, your telling your team, fans, league, this is a Super Bowl year run. But, I don't think you have to mortgage the future to make it happen.....2 year contract. 3 tops. We aren't on the hook for any money in year 3.

In 2-3 years, it is my belief, we will be looking for a new QB anyway....And most likely , however good the new QB is, it will take some time to adjust....; who knows what that will look like.

Let me ask you politely, You really think AP would pass up the best offer on the table? I know people think Murray did but we don't know if he did or not. No one but him knows what Oakland put out there. AP on his very last payday will go to the highest bidder. And at his age they can have him. Our FO has shown great restrain this season. It needs to continue.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

Let me ask you politely, You really think AP would pass up the best offer on the table? I know people think Murray did but we don't know if he did or not. No one but him knows what Oakland put out there. AP on his very last payday will go to the highest bidder. And at his age they can have him. Our FO has shown great restrain this season. It needs to continue.

I can only guess....you know?

But If I am AP. I just spent my career in a place that had no shot at a Super Bowl. None. I am one of the best RBs, in the history of the game. And I didn't even make a championship game....

I see how close Dallas was last year in the Playoffs. I see that "Great Wall of Dallas". I am from Texas.

A line like that could extend my Career. A team like that, has a shot at a Super Bowl.....
And, they need a RB!

AZ fits the bill too.

No way I end my Career in Oakland. Or Jacks. or any other team that is at the bottom trying to rebuild, and will most likely be a repeat of being in Minn.

So, I give all my attention to those two teams. Dallas and AZ. Both had really good Olines. Both need a RB. Both could make a Super Bowl run next year......

Now I want paid. But the other, "non-financial" factors have a great deal of weight. I tell my agent. talk with these teams........

Now, if AZ throws all their picks at Minny...... then he is going to AZ.

i could also see a team like the Giants trying to get him too. With Eli, and now Beckham, the Giants always think they are contenders. Eli has won two SBs! But, I think they have RB. And I havent heard anything like they are interested. But I wouldnt count anything out this year.

I dont think Minny keeps him out of spite. I seriously doubt he plays for Minny next year.

 

[pansophy]

You have a very valid point.

-I dont pay Murray what the Eagles paid him.
-Even at 30, AP is 10x better then Murray.

-I think Dallas was thinking they had a shot at retaining Murray. I think the Big contract caught them by surprise , just a little. I know, a lot of people don't agree with that, and I am stretching with that guess. But this off season has been nuts....

- I just cant believe for one second, the Cowboys go into next season, with DMF, Williams, Randle and a Rookie..... -- Now, the RBBC, isn't that bad of an idea. It could very well work. I wont be that disappointed if that's the route we go.

- Some think the year off is bad for AP. Others think it was good, saved him from the year Murray just had......

- Getting AP would put this team closer to the SB , more so then any other move they could make. AP WANTS to be here.......

- I dont think its an "All In" kind of move either. Yes, your telling your team, fans, league, this is a Super Bowl year run. But, I don't think you have to mortgage the future to make it happen.....2 year contract. 3 tops. We aren't on the hook for any money in year 3.

In 2-3 years, it is my belief, we will be looking for a new QB anyway....And most likely , however good the new QB is, it will take some time to adjust....; who knows what that will look like.

New England wins a lot of football games protecting Tom Brady and playing strong defense. We secure the OL by resigning Free and Leary, spend our only big $$ on Hardy who addresses the biggest weakness of the team and we sign 2nd tier players so that we can go into the draft without absolutely having to draft a particular position.

It's not a complicated plan and it sets us up for hopefully another solid draft.

Assuming Dez doesn't hold out the first 10 weeks, Randle, Williams, McFadden, and a rookie all together should be more than sufficient to generate a running game behind this line.

The fact that the team isn't willing to restructure Romo's contract tells you they want to cap conscious and build from the draft. Regardless, the Hardy signing should seal the deal on AP discussion because we won't have money and no way that Dallas takes on two of these off-the-field headaches in one season.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

New England wins a lot of football games protecting Tom Brady and playing strong defense. We secure the OL by resigning Free and Leary, spend our only big $$ on Hardy who addresses the biggest weakness of the team and we sign 2nd tier players so that we can go into the draft without absolutely having to draft a particular position.

It's not a complicated plan and it sets us up for hopefully another solid draft.

Assuming Dez doesn't hold out the first 10 weeks, Randle, Williams, McFadden, and a rookie all together should be more than sufficient to generate a running game behind this line.

The fact that the team isn't willing to restructure Romo's contract tells you they want to cap conscious and build from the draft. Regardless, the Hardy signing should seal the deal on AP discussion because we won't have money and no way that Dallas takes on two of these off-the-field headaches in one season.

I agree with you but they could be waiting things out to restructure Romo. That's the stroke of a pen.

 

[KJJ]

The Vikings want all the pics back Jerry got in the Herschel Walker trade.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

New England wins a lot of football games protecting Tom Brady and playing strong defense. We secure the OL by resigning Free and Leary, spend our only big $$ on Hardy who addresses the biggest weakness of the team and we sign 2nd tier players so that we can go into the draft without absolutely having to draft a particular position.

It's not a complicated plan and it sets us up for hopefully another solid draft.

Assuming Dez doesn't hold out the first 10 weeks, Randle, Williams, McFadden, and a rookie all together should be more than sufficient to generate a running game behind this line.

The fact that the team isn't willing to restructure Romo's contract tells you they want to cap conscious and build from the draft. Regardless, the Hardy signing should seal the deal on AP discussion because we won't have money and no way that Dallas takes on two of these off-the-field headaches in one season.

Maybe. Although I think its a mistake to think "Randle, Williams, McFadden, and a rookie all together should be more than sufficient to generate a running game behind this line"

I think there is more to it then just generating a run game. We need our run game to be dominant. Not just "good enough". We were competitive with the best teams in the league, because of that running game, for the first time, in about 20 years!

Especially considering are gazillion dollar QB and his age.....We need for him to be able to turn around give it to "One" guy, and say , pick up these three or 4 yards, or we have to punt.

 

[ThrowuptheXDez88]

I'm trying to change my username, help me out MOD please.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Maybe. Although I think its a mistake to think "Randle, Williams, McFadden, and a rookie all together should be more than sufficient to generate a running game behind this line"

I think there is more to it then just generating a run game. We need our run game to be dominant. Not just "good enough". We were competitive with the best teams in the league, because of that running game, for the first time, in about 20 years!

Especially considering are gazillion dollar QB and his age.....We need for him to be able to turn around give it to "One" guy, and say , pick up these three or 4 yards, or we have to punt.

I agree with that. I asked two old lineman I know what they would rather have, RB by committee or A bellcow with a reliever. Both said bellcow.
The line and the RB have to establish a rhythm is why. Makes sense to me.

 

[khiladi]

So basically the Vikings are suppose to give him away for nothing, actually a loss. AP is not at advantage here per my understanding.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Can we all stop comparing Murray and AD as if they are similar talents? It's embarrassing.

 

[Redball Express]

Giving up a high draft pick to be able to pay a 30 year old running back 20+ guaranteed would be astoundingly stupid. I'm glad for the first time in a long time I have confidence in this organization not making astoundingly stupid moves.

Dallas is not going to sign Peterson.

Not at $20+mil.

Everything we have seen as far as contract management would indicate an incentive deal like a Hardy.

We will draft RB high if one falls to us at 27.

That's my read.