Ware Release: has the Organization Changed? ***Ware Mega Merge-place all Ware threads here please***

[StarBoyz83]

Didn't the Broncos sign Byrd? How are they affording this?

Saints signed bird but the broncos have got ward and talib for the d.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

My issue with that is, who is Demarcus Ware now?

Putting on that weight to play DE literally destroyed his body last year. He can't carry it. Losing it to play OLB is fine, but he can't cover anyone anymore. And he lacks the quickness to get around the end he once had.

Today, Ware is a less productive version of George Selvie. Nothing more. Father Time got him early.

So when you were arguing that Ware's divorce would help keep him here... You were saying that was a bad thing? Didn't seem like it.

 

[Wood]

With the likely departures of Ware, Hatcher and Spencer, how can the team possibly rebuild the defensive line sufficiently in the year or two that Romo has left in the window where he can win a championship?

that 'window' was more of media and Jerry Jones painting a picture for you that actually didn't exist. Windows are for teams who are just on the cusp..meaning they get deep into playoffs and are just missing a piece or two. Dallas on other hand never really got off ground even with Romo.

 

[Doomsay]

So when the Cowboys cut loyal ties, it is due to cap mismanagement, but when the Patriots do it to players like Richard Seymour, we applaud their genius moves?

I get it now.

It takes two to tango. Jerry offered the sweet contract and Ware didn't refuse.

The Pats got a high first round draft pick for Seymour, all we got for Ware was a hole in our lineup and and $8 million in dead money that we can't use to fill it. One of these things is not like the other.

 

[erod]

This thread is comical.

Last year, Dallas had the worst defensive pass rush in the NFL with Ware and Hatcher on it.

Ware was the biggest problem. He was gawd awful. Didn't do a thing, ever. George Selvie was the pass rush star of the team. Hatcher is infinitely replaceable. He looked good mostly because the others stunk. Somebody has to make a play here and there.

I would sign Melton and Hatcher if the prices are right, draft a DE and DT in the first two rounds if the players there are worthy, and mix Crawford, Selvie, Hayden, and Bass into the fold. See what that gets them, and move forward.

It can't possibly be a worse defensive line than last year.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I'd respect this a lot more, Mike, if you told us before the release that the organization needed to change.

Otherwise this is just your usual cheerleader self.

Yeah, like I've never criticized any decision the organization has made.

 

[Gaede]

This thread is comical.

Last year, Dallas had the worst defensive pass rush in the NFL with Ware and Hatcher on it.

Ware was the biggest problem. He was gawd awful. Didn't do a thing, ever. George Selvie was the pass rush star of the team. Hatcher is infinitely replaceable. He looked good mostly because the others stunk. Somebody has to make a play here and there.

I would sign Melton and Hatcher if the prices are right, draft a DE and DT in the first two rounds if the players there are worthy, and mix Crawford, Selvie, Hayden, and Bass into the fold. See what that gets them, and move forward.

It can't possibly be a worse defensive line than last year.

Uh yeah it can.

 

[Kaiser]

The guys on the fan are saying ware was willing to take paycut to 7 mill. I guess we just wanted to move on .

That's the big question, did Ware refuse to negotiate a pay cut or did the Cowboys just want to move on?

 

[IrishAnto]

I vote solidly "Yes".

We'll see.

Did the Organization change for the better when we cut Emmitt?

 

[erod]

Uh yeah it can.

No, it can't. Zero pass rush and no push against the run at all. That equaled the 32nd ranked defense in the NFL, and the worst defense statistically in Dallas Cowboys history.

 

[xwalker]

Yes it does........betting $10 on a 50/50 is one thing. Calling a guy in poker for $10 when your already in the pot for $100 is completely different

It would be betting an additional 120 when you have 85 in the pot.

The better analogy would be buying more of a losing stock just because you already own share of that stock. A good investor would only buy more shares if he thought there was a high probability of the stock increasing in value regardless of how much he already had invested in it.

It's called chasing a losing hand. I wouldn't be a good idea to go all in wishing to get that final card needed to make a straight.

 

[visionary]

And secret sauce!

no on else stands a chance

 

[MichaelWinicki]

We'll see.

Did the Organization change for the better when we cut Emmitt?

Yes it did change for the better, because that was during the start of the Parcells' era in Dallas and things did improve for a few seasons.

 

[erod]

So when you were arguing that Ware's divorce would help keep him here... You were saying that was a bad thing? Didn't seem like it.

That was just an observation. I thought it would play a part in him being willing to take a reduction. I would have been all for him staying for less than than his cap hit because what was there to lose other than a roster spot.

If Denver pays him $10 million, then Jerry isn't the worst GM in the NFL anymore.

 

[Wolfpack]

Mistake if that's true.

If you're not going to blow it up and rebuild, which is my preference, then you retain Ware for now. You don't just throw away a guy who gets double digit sacks in his sleep. One year doesn't define him.

Huge mistake. Team has so much stupid dead money as always.

 

[erod]

That's the big question, did Ware refuse to negotiate a pay cut or did the Cowboys just want to move on?

I think it's both. Perhaps Dallas really low-balled him knowing he wouldn't accept it.

 

[Zordon]

We can't.

Simple as that.

Romo's contract is looking dumber and dumber everyday.

 

[erod]

Simple as that.

Romo's contract is looking dumber and dumber everyday.

Good quarterbacks get paid. Always. It's OK to have money socked away in your QB.

It's the other ones that are killers. How much dead money is tied up in former players now?

 

[CrownCowboy]

Fire sale is so maddenesque. While the thought makes sense in a vacuum it isn't a realistic option in real life. First and foremost is that it isn't fair to the players left on the team who have worked all their lives to be part of a team trying to reach the Superbowl. Nor is it fair to fans who are paying for tickets and paying high cable prices.... much of which is going to pay for NFL contracts.

With all due respect to the players and pretty much everyone in existence, life isn't fair. Even with that said, I'd say that most of them have made more money than the average person. So I guess life has been more than fair to them.

The fans want a winner. Atleast that is why I pay to watch. I want to see my team return to the Glory Days. This core group of players that have been here in Dallas are not going to win anything, and that includes the Head Coach who has been here plenty of time.

Why only stop at Ware and Austin? It's time to get this team going in the right direction. I have been one of this groups biggest supporters and fans. I loved their talents and hard work but the bottomline is that they are not winners and they won't be winners here together. It's time to move on in my opinion and rebuild.

I'm not worried about Tony Romo, Jason Witten, Demarcus Ware, and Miles Austin. They all have made millions. We are not going to win a Super Bowl with these guys, especially with the Red Headed boy wonder leading them.

 

[Kaiser]

I think it's both. Perhaps Dallas really low-balled him knowing he wouldn't accept it.

I was completely wrong on the outcome, it made sense for both sides to do a pay-cut contract. I'm really interested in what really happened, its probably from both sides like you say.

I also think Dallas did this after already having some behind the scenes discussions with the guy they want to replace him. Or at a minimum, they are certain they can sign Melton plus bring in a DE in the first two rounds of the draft.