We are stuck in purgatory at this point with Dak

Fritsch_the_cat

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Purdy is not going to be the long term solution for the 49ers at QB and would have probably fared worse than Dak if he was on the Cowboys.
That's a matter of opinion, we have no idea what his future holds. But I never said Purdy is the 2nd coming of Tom Brady. I said he played better than Dak last Sunday and that's the cold hard fact.
 

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Ah, so your theory just got blow out of the water.

Ill tell you what..................just swap out McCafrey for Zeke on the teams and we win that game. Purdy did diddly. And he had two easy picks dropped.
LOL.

No, we don't win if we have McCaffery. Dak showed the ENTIRE SECOND HALF that he was incapable of making the necessary throws to win. You have to be able to throw the ball to beat the 49ers. He couldn't.

I actually feel sad for you. You are so in the tank for Dak you literally are just embarrassing yourself at this point.
 

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I don't see any way to move on from Dak until after 2024, and that is only if the Cap Wiz for the Cowboys tops restructuring his contract. They can win with Dak if they smarten up and build the team from inside out instead of through jersey sales projections.
This times a million…
 

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And what theory would that be? It's not like Dak had one bad game. I have tried to stick with Dak, tried to have faith in him, but no more. You need to wake up to the reality and quit acting like you are the smartest kid in class, because your not.
Your theory that whoever wins the game is the better QB. LOL

Unlike you, I have the ability to analyze the entire teams performance. A guy like you I call QB challenged. Which basically means you dont understand that football is a team sport and you think everything winning and losing is about the QB. You think QB's have records and think QB's play each other.

I get a kick out of it. Easy stuff to discount as your theories can be easily dismissed. like I just did.
 

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I was never a Dak hater but its obvious to me he is not the answer if we want to win the SB,we have a team now to win it all but the QB is holding us back.the sad part is we are stuck with him and i doubt Jerry will even attempt to draft a QB like the eagles did with Wentz as their starter.
 

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You people will listen to me one day! I've got a better eye for talent than most of the people on this board. I even have a better eye than the expert Jerry. Dak is a middle of the road Kirk Cousin type QB who plays awful in the biggest moments. I saw this coming and nobody wanted to listen. I hope you Dak lovers enjoyed watching that failure Sunday night and FINALLY the world sees Dak as the sole reason they lost that game. You can't blame the defense anymore.
Kirk Cousins mechanics are way better and he is more fluid and his defense this year was downright awful. If he had the defense Dallas had, the Vikings would be contenders.
 

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He beat Dak, who did less than diddly.
QB's dont play each other. Niners beat the Cowboys. Niners offense outplayed the Cowboys D. Cowboys offense was outplayed by the Niners D.

Football 101. Do some remedial reading tonight and we will talk tomorrow.
 

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Disagree, as I am sure you expected.

We are not in purgatory contract wise. We will renegotiate and convert money this offseason and free up as much as they want to.

I believe they will also be aggressive this year to add a difference maker or two.

There are so many things we can do to improve our team to get us over the hump, we just have to do them. Here are a few reasons why we are not a finished product:

1. We are a young team and now that youth has a bunch of playoff experience. That matters but it also points to internal progression. This isn't the Rams who mortgaged their future to get a title. Sure they got it but at what cost? This is why we were able to jettison underperformers and actually get better last year. This is the philosophy of the team.

2. Cut Zeke. Love the guy but he is like a weight around our neck, particularly late in the season. The profound negative impact of 2 yards and a cloud of dust or fielding a pass and falling down cannot be underestimated. Put in a young stud RB with this line and we are going to be that much more dangerous and Dak that much more effective.

3. Need more playmakers on offense. This is obvious to me. Been saying it for a few years now. We don't scare anyone. Need to add playmaking threats to our offense.

4. Kellen Moore has to go. Sorry, he has had some success but this has run its course. It is time for a new offensive philosophy. My personal favorite is to have McCarthy implement his proven west coast offense and have one of his guys run the offense ala KC.

5. Finally grabbing a DT or two that can make a real difference. Heard Will McClay say on Brad Sham's show yesterday he would love to sign Daron Payne. Was surprised to hear him say that but he also couched it with "if it works financially" lol


As i said, I think this is the year we open the purse a little and try and get this team over the SF hump.

Restructuring doesn't get us out of purgatory. It just kicks more money into the future and makes it tougher to move on from him. Even in saving cap space restructuring, with all the guys that need to be signed, even on defense, there isn't going to be enough to go out in FA and just bring in a bunch of top level playmakers for him.

Dak isn't young. So the youth excuse is weird to me when he's the one who was making the mistakes in this last game. It wasn't our youth that betrayed us. It was the QB who played terribly and made some real backbreaking decisions in this game.

I agree with dumping Zeke. I've said for a year. Shoot I said we shouldn't have even resigned him. You don't pay big bucks for a TB. It almost always bites you in the butt.

I tend to agree with dumping Moore. Not because I think he's the problem but because they can't move on from Dak so your last ditch effort here to salvage him is try a new offensive system.
 

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I was never a Dak hater but its obvious to me he is not the answer if we want to win the SB,we have a team now to win it all but the QB is holding us back.the sad part is we are stuck with him and i doubt Jerry will even attempt to draft a QB like the eagles did with Wentz as their starter.
A team to win it all with Zeke at RB? You cant be serious. Swap out McCaffrety for Zeke and Cowboys win the game.
 

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Your theory that whoever wins the game is the better QB. LOL

Unlike you, I have the ability to analyze the entire teams performance. A guy like you I call QB challenged. Which basically means you dont understand that football is a team sport and you think everything winning and losing is about the QB. You think QB's have records and think QB's play each other.

I get a kick out of it. Easy stuff to discount as your theories can be easily dismissed. like I just did.

No, what you do is look around to see if you can find excuses to cover up for the QBs play.

At the end of the day, the single largest reason this team lost to San Fran was the QB played terribly and made some really bad throws when he needed to just make some plays.

The QB failed on Sunday. It's just that simple.
 

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Didnt you just say that people who thought we could win against the niners were a minority? Now your saying we can beat them with only Zeke?

Cmon, give me a break. This was a very tall task. With Zeke only its near impossible. Niners make most QB's look like a deer in headlights.
Only Zeke? What about Cee Dee, Shultz, Gallup, Hilton, Ferguson or Brown? And Dak has legs too but he refused to use them like he did versus TB. I won’t say Dak is a 100% the reason we lost but he shares most of the blame with Kellen Moore. If you don’t agree that’s fine but I’m guessing a lot more fans see it my way.
 

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QB's dont play each other. Niners beat the Cowboys. Niners offense outplayed the Cowboys D. Cowboys offense was outplayed by the Niners D.

Football 101. Do some remedial reading tonight and we will talk tomorrow.
Cowboys D held the 49ers to around 14 points below their 2nd half of the season offensive average.

The Niners D got the best of the Cowboys O because the QB, by and large, failed more than any other player.

You keep talking about how football savvy you are but you continually fail to admit something that pretty much any unbaised football expert has said - Dak cost them the game.
 

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LOL.

No, we don't win if we have McCaffery. Dak showed the ENTIRE SECOND HALF that he was incapable of making the necessary throws to win. You have to be able to throw the ball to beat the 49ers. He couldn't.

I actually feel sad for you. You are so in the tank for Dak you literally are just embarrassing yourself at this point.
No you have to be able to run the ball to loosen up that zone nickel. With Zeke they had no fear of the run and were just sitting back there flooding the zones.

Dak made all of you look laughable again this year by leading his team to the playoffs and going for 300 yards and 5 TD's beating the bucs.

Niners are too good for this team. Thats been proven. Especially with the horrid Zeke.
 

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QB's dont play each other. Niners beat the Cowboys. Niners offense outplayed the Cowboys D. Cowboys offense was outplayed by the Niners D.

Football 101. Do some remedial reading tonight and we will talk tomorrow.
More childish responses.

QB's play defenses. Most will agree Cowboys and Niners are fairly even on defense, a rank rookie beat Dak in an even matchup.

Washington certainly doesn't have a better defense. An unknown rank rookie beat Dak, who had a terrible game once again.

A second year guy Lawrence, playing against a better defense that he has, beat Dak, who faced an inferior defense.

Seems a little football 101ish to me.
 

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Only Zeke? What about Cee Dee, Shultz, Gallup, Hilton, Ferguson or Brown? And Dak has legs too but he refused to use them like he did versus TB. I won’t say Dak is a 100% the reason we lost but he shares most of the blame with Kellen Moore. If you don’t agree that’s fine but I’m guessing a lot more fans see it my way.
It was another team loss. Dak shot himself in the foot with the two bad picks. Game was over when Pollard left and we had only Zeke.

And no Dak isnt 100% the reason we lost. LOL

Defense in the 2nd half was equally to blame. 2 dropped picks and caving in the 4th. Did the niners D cave in the 4th?
 

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I'm glad you find this all so amusing. Do you laugh like that every time Dak throws an interception? Your reply is childish, no need for an attempt at dialog.
Ignore. One of the “emoji” crew who thinks constant laughing emojis = smart. It’s comical
 

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No you have to be able to run the ball to loosen up that zone nickel. With Zeke they had no fear of the run and were just sitting back there flooding the zones.

Dak made all of you look laughable again this year by leading his team to the playoffs and going for 300 yards and 5 TD's beating the bucs.

Niners are too good for this team. Thats been proven. Especially with the horrid Zeke.

No one has run on the 49ers all year. Their stats show the way to get to them is through the air. Dak wasn't sharp enough in that game to take advantage of that. He made poor decisions, throwing into coverages he shouldn't have. When he had chances to make plays, like the Gallup play or the Hilton being open play, he either made a really bad throw or just missed them.

He failed against the 49ers. Referencing the Bucs game is silly. He played great there. The week before he played awful again against the Commanders. The week before that he was mediocre against the Titans. He was great against Philly. He's inconsistent. He's been up and down all season. He was not good against the 49ers. He was one of the biggest, if not the biggest, reason we lost Sunday. The season didn't end after the Bucs game.

You are being obtuse at this point.
 

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More childish responses.

QB's play defenses. Most will agree Cowboys and Niners are fairly even on defense, a rank rookie beat Dak in an even matchup.

Washington certainly doesn't have a better defense. An unknown rank rookie beat Dak, who had a terrible game once again.

A second year guy Lawrence, playing against a better defense that he has, beat Dak, who faced an inferior defense.

Seems a little football 101ish to me.

LOL................so now the Cowboys D and Niners D is equal? Just stop! I cant hold a conversation with a layman like this.

So Purdy and Lawrence beat Dak. Dak beat Brady. So now your claiming that Purdy and Lawrence are better than Brady?

Give it up, your embarrassing yourself.
 

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It was another team loss. Dak shot himself in the foot with the two bad picks. Game was over when Pollard left and we had only Zeke.

And no Dak isnt 100% the reason we lost. LOL

Defense in the 2nd half was equally to blame. 2 dropped picks and caving in the 4th. Did the niners D cave in the 4th?
The biggest play of the game was Dak's pick deep in San Fran's territory. That happened after Pollard got hurt.

When we had a chance to get some momentum and Hilton was open for a TD and Dak missed him? After Pollard got hurt. When Gallup was breaking open for a big play when we needed to get a drive going and Dak threw it 4 yards behind him with a terrible throw? After Pollard got hurt.

Pollard had pretty much been a non factor up until he got hurt anyway. So acting like he was killing the 49ers and then he got hurt is silly. The problem with the offense on Sunday wasn't Pollard getting hurt. It wasn't the OL. It wasn't Elliott. It was the QB who played one of his worst games of the season, his 2nd terrible outing in the last 3 games.
 
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