We are stuck in purgatory at this point with Dak

Fritsch_the_cat

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I cant hold a conversation with a layman like this.
Based on your immature responses I'm sure I have been watching football longer than you have been alive. I see no reason to try to attempt any further discussion with you.
 

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No one has run on the 49ers all year. Their stats show the way to get to them is through the air. Dak wasn't sharp enough in that game to take advantage of that. He made poor decisions, throwing into coverages he shouldn't have. When he had chances to make plays, like the Gallup play or the Hilton being open play, he either made a really bad throw or just missed them.

He failed against the 49ers. Referencing the Bucs game is silly. He played great there. The week before he played awful again against the Commanders. The week before that he was mediocre against the Titans. He was great against Philly. He's inconsistent. He's been up and down all season. He was not good against the 49ers. He was one of the biggest, if not the biggest, reason we lost Sunday. The season didn't end after the Bucs game.

You are being obtuse at this point.
Are you claiming I said DAk had a good game?

Problem is your inability to focus on anything else but Dak. Ill talk football, you talk Dak. Then we will have it all covered.
 

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Based on your immature responses I'm sure I have been watching football longer than you have been alive. I see no reason to try to attempt any further discussion with you.
You havent learned much. Maybe you should talk to the posters that think we Purdy is better than Brady and Dak. Some might agree with you.

Continue to rattle off false nonsense and Ill be right there to put you in line.
 

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LOL................so now the Cowboys D and Niners D is equal? Just stop! I cant hold a conversation with a layman like this.

So Purdy and Lawrence beat Dak. Dak beat Brady. So now your claiming that Purdy and Lawrence are better than Brady?

Give it up, your embarrassing yourself.

The defenses were closer than you want to admit. San Fran was 1st in scoring D, the Cowboys were 4th. Cowboys actually had better pass D stats than the 49ers. Football Outsiders had San Fran #1 and the Cowboys #3. San Fran's D was better but not by this large margin that would explain how Purdy was able to navigate the game better than our 7th year vet who apparently is a legit upper level, elite-ish QB like you think he is.
 

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If Purgatory is one game and one quarter away from the championship game, thats not so bad.

At least its not the 8-9 doom and gloom season you predicted before we started. With Dak we have a shot. Whos your solution?

Andy Dalton? Rush? Talk about laughable. NO thanks. Almost time to resign Dak. Until there is a better option you will just have to keep making totally laughable predictions and having them blow up in your face.
Have a shot at what? Yet another disappointing playoff result which does nothing but keep Dallas barely relevant and drafting in the mid to late 20's where Dallas misses out on an impact player????

If you want to keep on defending Dak go ahead but even most of the most adamant Dak supporters are seeing the fact he will do nothing but disappoint.
 

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Purgatory extends well beyond the years that Dak has been the starting QB. The title of this thread should be we are stuck in purgatory with Jed Clampett (Jerry) and his son Jethro Bodine (Stephen). Dak is who is and is just another scapegoat for these two. GMs decide who is on the the team and who is coaching the team.
 

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True to an extent but even Jerry reaches his breaking point.

In reality, a quality GM would probably be thinking exit strategy at this point with Dak. Start thinking 2-3 years down the road.

Jerry won't. He'll stick with Dak for those next 3-4 years and then when it's obvious it's not work, he'll pull the rip cord - when it's too late and after wasting a couple more seasons. In other words, if Dak is still doing what he's doing 3-4 years from now, he's not getting a 2nd contract.

And let's be honest, who really knows how long Jerry is going to be around at this point.
True and until this FO actually hires a GM(not gonna happen) or a HC who is on the hook for production but has personell say (also probably not gonna happen) we will be stuck in Owner pugatory... Jerry loves to say "Deadlines make deals" i need him to say "Being held accountable makes winners" and actually do it.
 

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The defenses were closer than you want to admit. San Fran was 1st in scoring D, the Cowboys were 4th. Cowboys actually had better pass D stats than the 49ers. Football Outsiders had San Fran #1 and the Cowboys #3. San Fran's D was better but not by this large margin that would explain how Purdy was able to navigate the game without any real mistakes and our 7th year vet kept making bad throw after bad throw.
Cherry pick whatever stat you want. Niners were the best in the NFL by far. If you cant admit that, lets move on.
 

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Despite the notion that I am a Dak hater who wanted him gone years ago, I've never thought he was a terrible QB or he needed to be shot to the sun. I think for some fans it's tough to admit he might not be the guy because deep down you know how hard it is to find a franchise QB. You wanted Dak to be the guy, frankly, we needed Dak to be the guy.

But as the seasons come and go, it becomes a little bit clearer he's unlikely to be a championship caliber QB. The alternative is trying to find that next guy. No, it's not Rush. No, it's not Grier. It's some kid slinging balls in college or even high school at this point. Frankly, it could take years to find that guy after Dak is no longer our QB.

And that just sucks. Accepting the reality that Dak is likely not the guy means that we may have to experience sheer pain in trying to find the next guy. We lucked out that Dak turned out to be as good as he was being a later round pick. That happens quite infrequently. It's not a recipe for success that we should follow. However, just picking QBs in the first and second rounds doesn't guarantee immediate success either.

Contract wise Dak is here for a few more years. But his contract largely precludes the Cowboys from going out and bringing in proven playmakers in FA to give Dak enough to get him closer to succeeding. The draft is a crap shoot, and despite our successes in drafting, we have some failures too.

All this just adds up to purgatory. We are stuck. Stuck between sucking and being elite. Stuck between not making the playoff and getting bounced before a champ game. Stuck between dominating the NFC East and finishing back in the pack. It just sucks.
Our next QB will be Shedeur Sanders..

Watch.
 

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Are you claiming I said DAk had a good game?

Problem is your inability to focus on anything else but Dak. Ill talk football, you talk Dak. Then we will have it all covered.

I never said you think Dak had a good game. But you are spending an inordinate amount of bandwidth on this site finding excuses to excuse his piss poor play. There are no real excuses. He sucked when he's paid to not totally suck in those kind of situations. You want to list reasons we lost to the 49ers?

Dak is the clear, uncontested #1 name on that list.
 

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You people will listen to me one day! I've got a better eye for talent than most of the people on this board. I even have a better eye than the expert Jerry. Dak is a middle of the road Kirk Cousin type QB who plays awful in the biggest moments. I saw this coming and nobody wanted to listen. I hope you Dak lovers enjoyed watching that failure Sunday night and FINALLY the world sees Dak as the sole reason they lost that game. You can't blame the defense anymore.
It was amazing that the team still had a chance of winning in the 4th quarter despite the horrific clown show by Prescott. I did think if we somehow won the game those obsessed with Prescott would have somehow claimed he got it done and forgot his inept, incompetent and embarrassing performance. The linebacker dropping the pick 6 let him off the hook as Prescott deserved to be forever remembered for that shocking performance after the Cowboys D played their tail off.
 

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Cherry pick whatever stat you want. Niners were the best in the NFL by far. If you cant admit that, lets move on.
They were not the best D in the NFL "by far". If you want to say they were the best, great. No argument from me. But there were other defenses in their class.

But I get why you want to make that claim. Its just another thing you can point to in order to try to rationalize Dak's **** performance and make excuses for him.
 

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Purgatory extends well beyond the years that Dak has been the starting QB. The title of this thread should be we are stuck in purgatory with Jed Clampett (Jerry) and his son Jethro Bodine (Stephen). Dak is who is and is just another scapegoat for these two. GMs decide who is on the the team and who is coaching the team.
True, but there is no way we are getting rid of the Jones, so we're just being realistic.
 

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A team to win it all with Zeke at RB? You cant be serious. Swap out McCaffrety for Zeke and Cowboys win the game.
If they retain him (I don’t care how much of a pay cut he takes) that may finally push me over the edge to pay a lot less attention.

I agree with you on not being terribly far away, but if they choose to continue to use draft for immediate help and ageing vets as placeholders and sit there with a grin as if they know things the rest of the world doesn’t….I don’t know if I can deal with that anymore.

They need a serious overhaul in how things are done…or as Jerry likes to say….”take a hard look in the mirror,” or “roll up our sleeves,” only to conclude that what they have been doing is the right way.

The two teams left in the weakest NFC ever are the ones with real and talented GMs who are capable of seeing their players for what they actually are, and aren’t afraid to make changes when that isn’t good enough.

How are we supposed to compete with that?

HOPE is the only real answer, and if they come out doing things like restructuring Elliott, and ignoring the real part of free agency AGAIN, it’s going to be tough to think about next season being any different.
 

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Have a shot at what? Yet another disappointing playoff result which does nothing but keep Dallas barely relevant and drafting in the mid to late 20's where Dallas misses out on an impact player????

If you want to keep on defending Dak go ahead but even most of the most adamant Dak supporters are seeing the fact he will do nothing but disappoint.
BWAAAAAAA!!!! Says the guy who didnt think we would even make the playoffs.

Where were you last week when we smoked the Bucs and Dak went for 300 and 5 TD's? Hiding under a rock?

Typical cowardly behavior showing up after the final loss.

Another season where Dak and the Cowboys made a mockery our of you.

Back to predicting doom and gloom for you eh?
 

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Cherry pick whatever stat you want. Niners were the best in the NFL by far. If you cant admit that, lets move on.
Speaking of cherry picking you’ve ignored every conceivable Fact put in front of you. Your ability to actually talk football is comical. I’ll look forward to your 50 laughing emojis to really get me!
 

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They were not the best D in the NFL "by far".

No analysis of any stats shows that. Now I get why you want to make that claim. Its just another thing you can point to in order to try to rationalize Dak's **** performance and make excuses for him.
Who is making excuses for Dak? Again, your inability to talk about anything other than Dak's performance shows your agenda.

LOL......I called the Cowboys loss and the performance of the offense. Nice try though.
 

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BWAAAAAAA!!!! Says the guy who didnt think we would even make the playoffs.

Where were you last week when we smoked the Bucs and Dak went for 300 and 5 TD's? Hiding under a rock?

Typical cowardly behavior showing up after the final loss.

Another season where Dak and the Cowboys made a mockery our of you.

Back to predicting doom and gloom for you eh?
So your 'go to' response is to deflect and then insult? That just shows how weak of mind and character you are and I suppose why you like Dak....kindred spirits.
 

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BWAAAAAAA!!!! Says the guy who didnt think we would even make the playoffs.

Where were you last week when we smoked the Bucs and Dak went for 300 and 5 TD's? Hiding under a rock?

Typical cowardly behavior showing up after the final loss.

Another season where Dak and the Cowboys made a mockery our of you.

Back to predicting doom and gloom for you eh?
Can you explain how Dak made a mockery of us when he didn’t start 5 games and still led the league in interceptions. Serious question.
 
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