Wells Conclusion: Guilty

[Longboysfan]

Readuing the report quickly....
Brady knew and pushed equiptment manager Jastremski and who was responsible for game day balls in stadium - McNally.
Pressure applied and gifts given.
Patriots caught.
Brady lies.
Bellachek lies.
Kraft lies.
NFL looks stupid, read the whole report......

 

[Longboysfan]

And you know Bill Belichick knew how? What is your evidence?

Bill doesn't necessarily know what's going on with the balls because he doesn't handle them. Brady, however, would know because he handles them. The ball boy would know because he handles them also.

That's why they're implicated and "probably" knew what happened.

Unless Belichick handles the balls, he wouldn't fall into that category.

Belichek would know the physics concerned with altering footballs.
They leave nothing to chance.
If anyone farted in the Patriots locker room he would be able to tell by smell who did it.

 

[Aven8]

Ian Fitzsimmons thinks 4 games and appeal down to 2. Tom Terrific huh? Seems like a real A hole to me!

 

[Rogah]

2 Ravens personnel were spoken to, but nothing in the report mentions anything either of them said. Wonder what the connection was there....

 

[tyke1doe]

That's my take on this, too. I guess the next question becomes whether the league decides to punish the individuals or punish the organization. My guess is the latter.

You have to punish the organization. Otherwise, you make a mockery out of the punishment the New Orleans Saints received.

 

[Longboysfan]

It took months for this investigation when we already knew. They were just preparing their own version of the events to make it look as least damaging as possible, including making it not seem organizational after Spygate.

Patriots with held people and information from NFL on follow up.

 

[DBOY3141]

You have to punish the organization. Otherwise, you make a mockery out of the punishment the New Orleans Saints received.

agree. those two locker room guys are employee's of the Pats. just like BB was during Spygate. the organization has to receive a punishment and it has to be more severe than Spygate. the organization got caught cheating...twice.

 

[Longboysfan]

at least Goodell cant burn the evidence this time

Well.... Maybe.. He has been sweeping a lot of things under the carpet as of late.
Picking and chosing what get's ruled on.

 

[tyke1doe]

Belichek would know the physics concerned with altering footballs.
They leave nothing to chance.
If anyone farted in the Patriots locker room he would be able to tell by smell who did it.

I know the physics of altering a ball. So what?
That doesn't mean I know someone altered one.

People are assuming that Belichick knew based on their belief that Belichick knows EVERYTHING. But I doubt Belichick knows everything. And there is the concept of plausible deniability.

But that as it may, I'm not really interested in arguing what Belichick did or didn't know.

I'm merely saying that it makes more sense and is more logical that a person who handles the balls would know what goes on compared to a person who doesn't handle the balls.

 

[Beast_from_East]

BREAKING NEWS................Patriots must forfeit a 7th rounder in the 2020 draft for deflating footballs. Additionally, Brady suspended 2 preseason games.

That will teach em!!!!!

 

[BoysFan4ever]

The Patriots will NEVER live this down.

I'm actually disappointed in Tom. He doesn't need to cheat to win.

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

I read the report up until the Kicker ball portion, and even though the report keeps saying "probability", anyone reading the report will know that there is a 100% chance that the Patriots did indeed deflated game balls to gain an advantage. Anyone reading the report will know with 100% certainty that Brady was in on it.

So what is the NFL going to do now?

 

[BotchedLobotomy]

BREAKING NEWS................Patriots must forfeit a 7th rounder in the 2020 draft for deflating footballs. Additionally, Brady suspended 2 preseason games.

That will teach em!!!!!

I heard that the two preseason games are also in 2020.

 

[Plumfool]

As I said, Brady and Belicheat (that's officially his name, now) were bad liars and if you have family that works in law enforcement, particularly in the detective work....it was pretty easy to see.

Brady just flat out lied about the subject, claiming that he doesn't even touch the footballs. Every NFL QB out there knew it was a lie because basically from Tuesday thru Sunday they are making sure that the footballs feel to their preference. It's a common mistake that liars make...trying to steer clear from the blame so much that they overdo it and are lying about common facts.

Belicheat put the blame on Brady (something that lying criminals often do...blame their co-hort) and then claimed that he was an expert in football and gaseous properties. It was pretty apparent that he had studied gaseous properties within a football...but, the fact that he played dumb to start with is something that lying criminals often do when they are smart to a subject....make themselves look dumb so we can't derive a connection. Then when the matter persists, use your expertise to spin the story in your favor.




YR

Thats why I believe Kraft is involved. He protests too much.

 

[cowboyblue22]

this is something that the pats and brady will never live down every fan will always know that every super bowl the won was tainted. the nfl kinda hangs in the balance here with this punishment if you don't have integrity then as a game its over u can stillbe intertainment but being a game Is over.

 

[Beast_from_East]

I heard that the two preseason games are also in 2020.

 

[Miller]

Right! This "investigation" could have concluded 24 hours after the crime took place. Like we've been saying all along.

Ragu looking kinda foolish right now

Not really! There is nothing wrong with being smart and letting the facts play out. When it was reported there was nothing showing direct evidence as to who did it. Heck even now there isn't conclusive evidence where the league can make a definite statement with their wording. Circumstantially it points that way but name calling just seems to be petty and childish. But carry on.

 

[Tabascocat]

So, eleven separate events or does Goodell conveniently give them one event??

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Thats why I believe Kraft is involved. He protests too much.

I think Kraft knows about it. 'Involvement' is another thing.





YR

 

[rynochop]

Belichek would know the physics concerned with altering footballs.
They leave nothing to chance.
If anyone farted in the Patriots locker room he would be able to tell by smell who did it.

I just saw an old PC clip of him saying he knows nothing about football dimensions, or psi, etc