Wells Conclusion: Guilty

[DFWJC]

Like I said all along....let them do their investigation and see what happens one way or the other.

This should give at least a tiny bit of much needed faith in the NFL front office--though they are still Kremlin-esque at times.

And then there's some that will take this report and jar of KY and disappear for a few days. lol The obsession has been comical ...but to each his own.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I just saw an old PC clip of him saying he knows nothing about football dimensions, or psi, etc

Yeah, then he changed his story and spouted off things like an expert.

Might have to do with him writing a foreword for a book called Football PHYSICS. That tends to be incriminating.

YR

 

[Miller]

So Tom Brady did this with properly inflated balls:

Colts 2nd Half: 12 of 14, 131 yards and 2 TDs

Super Bowl: 37 of 50 for 4 TDs and 2 in crunch time

He should be fined for stupidity for not knowing that he plays better with properly inflated balls!

 

[big dog cowboy]

 

[Rogah]

ok *whew* that was some nice light reading.... Here are my thoughts (since so many people in here seem so interested in what I think): I am right back to where I was 3 1/2 months ago: It's a 5 dollar crime deserving of a 5 dollar fine.

I said all along I would accept the conclusions of the Wells Report and so I shall: Brady knew about it, Belichick and Kraft didn't. (I find it pretty disingenuous how several people are accepting the parts they want to accept but rejecting the parts they want to reject). Brady should probably get a game or two for what he did, but I am basing that statement more on how he lied to investigators than the actual "crime" itself. And those 2 equipment doofuses should probably start looking for new jobs.

I see this as comparable to a pitcher scuffing a baseball or pine tar or something like that, hence the punishment to Brady - but they didn't take draft picks from the Yankees when Pineda got caught with pine tar on his neck. I also see it as very comparable to what the Vikings got caught doing, and they only got a letter or warning..... or, better yet, comparable to Jerry Rice's admitted usage of stick'em during the 80's/90's0

The league will almost certainly implement new procedures for ball handling, which I guarantee upsets a whole buncha other QBs. Oh well. And I bet every other QB in the league has had similar exchanges with the equipment personnel. It's an interesting insight to how things work behind the scenes.

If I was a Colts fan I would probably be pissed that so many questions were raised prior to the AFCCG, the balls actually went missing for a brief time period prior to the AFCCG, but they let the entire 1st half play out anyway. Of course, the fact that they lost by 38 probably would make that more of a non-issue than if, for example, NE jumped to a big 1st half league but Indy came back in the 2nd and lost by a hair.

Interesting that if Brady is suspended, he won't be able to attend the banner ceremony on September 10. Can't imagine NBC is terribly happy but they really can't do much.

The statistical analysis at the end is very interesting.

History will not consider the Patriots dynasty as "tainted" any more than the Broncos 2 Super Bowls (salary cap violations) or the 49ers (aforementioned stick'em usage).

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

this might be a problem,the teams which have to play him after those 10 games will be hard done by,they need to suspended both BB and Brady for the whole season or not at all.

How do you NOT make a statement suspension here?

Caught cheating twice.

Very important: when caught cheating they lose superbowls. I don't care that Seattle gave them the last Super Bowl.

They were 30 seconds from being 0-3 in SBs when caught cheating.
Not caught cheating 3-0

 

[big dog cowboy]

 

[big dog cowboy]

History will not consider the Patriots dynasty as "tainted"

 

[TheDallasDon]

How do you NOT make a statement suspension here?

Caught cheating twice.

Very important: when caught cheating they lose superbowls. I don't care that Seattle gave them the last Super Bowl.

They were 30 seconds from being 0-3 in SBs when caught cheating.
Not caught cheating 3-0

If I rob a bank and I only get fined $10.........I'm going to rob a bank again(Pats thinking)

 

[big dog cowboy]

 

[Rogah]

So Tom Brady did this with properly inflated balls:

Colts 2nd Half: 12 of 14, 131 yards and 2 TDs

Super Bowl: 37 of 50 for 4 TDs and 2 in crunch time

He should be fined for stupidity for not knowing that he plays better with properly inflated balls!

Ya I heard some guys on the radio say the same thing. It really goes to show the competitive advantage of the whole thing is minimal at best.

 

[Plumfool]

I think Kraft knows about it. 'Involvement' is another thing.





YR

"Law of Parties" dude lol

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Ya I heard some guys on the radio say the same thing. It really goes to show the competitive advantage of the whole thing is minimal at best.

Unless you look at the fumble rate shown by Warren Sharp and backed up by Brian Burke, both guys who are not fanboys of the Patriots like the other water carriers.

You example would be like a pitcher that gets caught scuffing a baseball but points to the time that he didn't scuff a baseball and threw a no-hitter.

The implications of this have far reaching potential and considering SpyGate and it's implications, it shows the lack of punishment for the Patriots at SpyGate did nothing to stop them from going to any lengths possible to get an illegal and unfair advantage.





YR

 

[rynochop]

Yeah, then he changed his story and spouted off things like an expert.

Might have to do with him writing a foreword for a book called Football PHYSICS. That tends to be incriminating.

YR

thx for the link, didnt look it up. to think he didnt know anything about this is naive

 

[Plankton]

The science of atmospheric conditions??? Kraft is a tool if he seriously believes this. And is an even bigger tool if he thinks anyone else buys that crap.

Have you listened to him speak? He sounds like he's in the bag the majority of the time.

 

[rynochop]

As far as penalty how about a salary cap hit structered over a couple years,say 15% this year, 10 next.

A fine is worthless to brady or bill

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Drop the personal attacks and name calling.

 

[rynochop]

Have you listened to him speak? He sounds like he's in the bag the majority of the time.

And yet everyone in the media calls him MISTER Kraft, like he.s some european dignitary. And yet yet jerry jones is jerry

 

[Rogah]

Unless you look at the fumble rate shown by Warren Sharp and backed up by Brian Burke, both guys who are not fanboys of the Patriots like the other water carriers.

You example would be like a pitcher that gets caught scuffing a baseball but points to the time that he didn't scuff a baseball and threw a no-hitter.

The implications of this have far reaching potential and considering SpyGate and it's implications, it shows the lack of punishment for the Patriots at SpyGate did nothing to stop them from going to any lengths possible to get an illegal and unfair advantage.

"Lack of punishment"? They lost a 1st rounder, something that had only happened once before in NFL history. That is a severe punishment.

 

[ConstantReboot]

A 243-page report released Wednesday on the New England Patriots' "deflategate" controversy during the 2015 AFC Championship Game has found that "it is more probable than not that New England Patriots personnel" deliberately deflated footballs below the approved thresholds.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/05/06/deflategate-report-patriots-new-england_n_7224452.html

Patriots cheated. Thus they should receive severe punishment. Lost of draft picks and their coach should be suspended just like the Saints. But it won't happen because Kraft is friends with Goddell.


The title should read "Probable". Can a Mod change it for me? Thanks.