Twitter: Werder: Orton hated offensive power struggle in Dallas

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Honestly guys, I don't know that Orton is wrong here. I think it's clear that in the recent past, Tony has had a lot of control over what is being called and when. It would appear that this has changed, at least in the early going, to an extent this season. I know that if I'm a player on a team and I believe that we could win if we just did X, and we never embraced that, I would be really pissed about it as well and it wouldn't take long to tire of it. I mean think about it, is it really all that hard to identify with?

I think you are thinking way to deep into this.

Why would a bench rider care all that much about what Romo does to lead this team and if we win or not.

He might be mad of jealousy. Waiting for him to screw up and get his chance. I doubt he cared if Romo did his all to win.
 

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The 7 losses we had with him at QB last year.

Well, I think the statement was not just about last year. It was about the past several years. This is more about how you approach the game and not just about individual stats and that's part of what I'm talking about. You can't throw the football 50 times a game and expect to be in it at the end of seasons IMO. Balance is a much better approach and I hope it's the way we go about the game from here on. I hope we are done with that kind of Football. Time will tell I suppose.
 

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I would assume between Garrett and Callahan, but it also could have had to do with the attempts to give Romo more control of the offense.

Of course, Orton wanted out of Dallas without having to repay any of his bonus, so I'll take anything he says with a grain of salt considering his threatened retirement to force his release.

That's what I thought, makes more sense
 

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More than likely he was embarrassed by his game losing pick last year and now has developed a lame excuse to hide his embarrassment.
 

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Who really cares failed for the Bears, replaced by god fearing Timmy in Denver and blew his one chance in Dallas.
I wish him well. Hope the 2014 Cowboys and the 2014 Bills meet in the super bowl. The media and cowboy fans would love that and have the last laugh.
 

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Well, I think the statement was not just about last year. It was about the past several years. This is more about how you approach the game and not just about individual stats and that's part of what I'm talking about. You can't throw the football 50 times a game and expect to be in it at the end of seasons IMO. Balance is a much better approach and I hope it's the way we go about the game from here on. I hope we are done with that kind of Football. Time will tell I suppose.

I agree, but you can't have balance if your running game is not good, or with the oline we had a couple of years ago. And having one of the worst defenses in league history certainly didn't help. I'm all for balance now, because we can do it correctly now.

And besides, if the head coach wanted to run more all he had to do is tell the QB to do so, he is supposed to be in charge, not the other way around.
 

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Is that number accurate? Because that's astounding if that number is accurate.

It can't be accurate. We had 8 losses last year so by virtue of that alone, it has to be inaccurate.

Based on what I can see, they are close thou. I think it's actually 17 TDs against 3 Ints. That's still impressive but the stats that Tony put up, IMO, are not indicative as to why. It's the style of football more then the the individual stats. Balance is always going to be better IMO but again, people have different opinions so it's cool.
 

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Is that number accurate? Because that's astounding if that number is accurate.

Just checked and its actualy 3 ints and 17 tds with a 104.3 rating. In losses. That is astounding.
 

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It can't be accurate. We had 8 losses last year so by virtue of that alone, it has to be inaccurate.

Based on what I can see, they are close thou. I think it's actually 17 TDs against 3 Ints. That's still impressive but the stats that Tony put up, IMO, are not indicative as to why. It's the style of football more then the the individual stats. Balance is always going to be better IMO but again, people have different opinions so it's cool.

You are right, it's 3 ints, but there were only 7 losses because Tony did not play in the eighth.
 

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I agree, but you can't have balance if your running game is not good, or with the oline we had a couple of years ago. And having one of the worst defenses in league history certainly didn't help. I'm all for balance now, because we can do it correctly now.

And besides, if the head coach wanted to run more all he had to do is tell the QB to do so, he is supposed to be in charge, not the other way around.

The running game was good last year. In the losses we had last year, I believe Murray averaged something like 4.9 YPC. We just didn't use it as much as I think we could have.
 

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Not sure what you are getting at but he didn't even come close to Romo's arm strength before or after Romo's back surgery. Orton is a bus driver at best. Always has been and always will be.

WOW, you learn something new every day in here, thanks for that.
 

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It can't be accurate. We had 8 losses last year so by virtue of that alone, it has to be inaccurate.

Based on what I can see, they are close thou. I think it's actually 17 TDs against 3 Ints. That's still impressive but the stats that Tony put up, IMO, are not indicative as to why. It's the style of football more then the the individual stats. Balance is always going to be better IMO but again, people have different opinions so it's cool.

Yeah, but, balance or no, if your QB is putting up 17 TDs for 3 ints, you should never go 0-7. Those are Flacco-to-Superbowl numbers right there.
It just highlights further for me what an absolute liability the defense was last season.
 

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I'm not saying that Mr. Blue Suit made this up (always a possible with him), but I just find it hilarious that he would bring up the Cowboys.

What does Orton...who is playing for Buffalo in a different conference...have to do with the Cowboys at this moment?

And what offensive power struggle was going on last year?

But more importantly, there is no offensive power struggle going on now except of if DeMarco is going to run for 150 yards or 200 yards. So what does Orton have to do with this year's Cowboys team?

And who really cares about the relationship between a backup QB that played 1 game in 2-years and the starting QB?

Mr. Blue Suit must be looking for the ESPN spotlight again.







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I can answer that in one word.

Ratings.

Talk Cowboys, get attention. Instantly.
 

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Yeah, but, balance or no, if your QB is putting up 17 TDs for 3 ints, you should never go 0-7. Those are Flacco-to-Superbowl numbers right there.
It just highlights further for me what an absolute liability the defense was last season.

I think there's more to it then that but I agree, the D was not good last year by any stretch. However, we really didn't help them much in our style of Offense. If you know you don't have a strong D, you try to keep them off the field.
 

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To be fair, we could have won the division and made the playoffs if Romo and the coaching staff had adopted the running game as opposed to throwing the ball 50 times a game too. It's hard to fault the backup QB for me. There were plenty of decision that are not on Orton, as to why we missed the playoffs that year IMO.

I can't imagine any sane person would dispute that since it is obvious to everyone but Jason Garrett. You know it is ridiculous when even other team's players are stupefied by it.

But Orton was certainly not a part of the solution. He was paid a lot of money to be insurance and he failed when called upon. He pouted in Denver when Tebow took his job, so I am not surprised at all about any of this garbage that Werder is reporting. Good riddance to the guy.
 
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