We're Still Firmly In QB Purgatory

[zrinkill]

We need to take the position serious and stop playing around.

I agree

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

He had a bad game. All QB’s do from time to time. He’s not going anywhere so you’ll be in purgatory and that’s a beautiful thing. Hate on bro.

If anybody wondered if Rocky was Dak over Dallas or not remember this post from him.

He doesn't care about the Cowboys. He only cares about watching Dak play.

 

[Diehardblues]

I’m leery of owner and son, and in turn their personnel staff, finding a qb. They were trying desperately to grab Paxton Lynch and Connor Cook the last time they were looking to draft and develop a qb.

Don’t forget about Manziel. Lol

Unfortunately , ultimately we are in a QB funk because of our ownership.

They see Dak as hitting the lottery because 12-5 is a much better scenario than 5-12 despite the disappointing playoff appearances.

 

[JayFord]

you cant be in qb purgatory going 12-5 in back to back years

Dak aint top 5 (Top 10 yes around 9 or 10)

but qb purgatory? lets be serious

 

[Diehardblues]

If anybody wondered if Rocky was Dak over Dallas or not remember this post from him.

He doesn't care about the Cowboys. He only cares about watching Dak play.

He’s just Homer defending anything under the Star. Once you recognize their stance there’s really no reason taking on the Homers. It’s like booing the cheerleaders . Lol

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

you cant be in qb purgatory going 12-5 in back to back years

Dak aint top 5 (Top 10 yes around 9 or 10)

but qb purgatory? lets be serious

I question where your loyalties lie when you give Dak credit for 12 wins when Cooper Rush lead us to 4 of them.

 

[BoysForLife]

did you watch our oline whats Tyron? Zack seem to hold his own but he isnt what he once was either. Dlaw is overpaid. Gallup overpaid! I dont care about any of them in terms of salary but lets not act like it falls on 1 person unless you want to name our owner.

and if were being real none of them are making top heap money any longer. Dak is what 10th highest paid QB zeke i think is 4th

forgot about Tyron and not defending him per se
he's clearly on his last legs and often/always injured, so I'll grant you that one

but he's making, what, $13 million this year?

about half what top tackles are making ($23-24 million a year)

you know any QB's making $80 million this year?

commensurate to their counterparts pay, I think if you're talking bloated contracts with limited ROI Dak and Zeke headline that list. JMHO

 

[john van brocklin]

The Chiefs made the playoffs the year they drafted Mahomes.

Imagine if they said "Ya know, Alex Smith gets us to the playoffs and we should be thankful for that much".

You don't have to hit rock bottom. You just have to be willing to make moves.

We don't have a real GM, who can make moves.
We make no bold draft day trades.
We make no large free agent signings.
We status quo and rake in the bucks.
All is good!
Move along ,nothing to see here.

 

[Diehardblues]

Other than Dak or Zeke, who? Who's making top of the heap money for their position and not producing?

Tyron Smith for starters . They released a few of the others in off season,

 

[JayFord]

I question where your loyalties lie when you give Dak credit for 12 wins when Cooper Rush lead us to 4 of them.

we're not in qb purgatory...you have Dak who won 8 games and rush who went 4-1

we are FAR from qb purgatory the team that beat us yesterday is in qb purgatory

 

[IrishAnto]

I hear people say that "we don't appreciate what we have" and must have forgotten about "the QBs between Aikman and Romo".

We're still there. It's just a little prettier.

It's time for this organization to take the QB position seriously again. I'd much rather be on the QB search than be handcuffed to a QB that requires everything to be perfect around him. The margin for error in roster building is incredibly small with a QB of Dak Prescott's skill level. We have to hit on everything to succeed with Dak at QB and that takes a lot of smarts and luck.

You're not going to draft the next Patrick Mahomes if you handcuff yourself to Alex Smith.

The GM hasn't spent a 1st round pick on a QB in 34 years and I don't see that changing anytime soon.

 

[starfan1]

forgot about Tyron and not defending him per se
he's clearly on his last legs and often/always injured, so I'll grant you that one

but he's making, what, $13 million this year?

about half what top tackles are making ($23-24 million a year)

you know any QB's making $80 million this year?

commensurate to their counterparts pay, I think if you're talking bloated contracts with limited ROI Dak and Zeke headline that list. JMHO

well youre not wrong per say. I just dont focus on $$ it dont mean squat to me. There are alot of folks that arent performing and some of the highly paid ones are reliant on the ones that are lower salary. I dont excuse any of them. I also dont lose sleep on it. Its not that serious to me. I love my cowboys but they are what they are a stupid inconsistent team. They are soft but the good thing is other NFC teams are flawed as well. So a few turnovers and you never know.

 

[gtb1943]

Depends on how you define a purgatory

Hell was Aikman to Romo.

Dak has slumped this year; no honest fan can deny that. consistency and taking care of the ball used to be two of his strong points; he has lost both this year.

Now if he comes back he is once again a top 10 QB good enough to win a SB if the other pieces are in place.

BUT if opportunity comes knocking and a top QB slips in the draft the boys would be idiots to pass him up

 

[NotForLong]

Well the last time they took a QB in the 1st round it was Troy Aikman.

I believe Steve Walsh cost us a 1st Rd pick in the supplemenfal as well . . And they flipped Him for a Bounty of picks

Gotta be willing FO make moves like you said . . . I am just glad they didn't go QB #11s Draft . . . So there is one blessing in disguise (Dak on the roster allowed for that)

But the time has come to start looking for His replacement . . . I still think Will Grier factors into it . . . He is young and talented and look at the wonders Kellen did with Cooper when called into action . . . I am a huge believer in sitting he QB and having him learn from the bench . . . I believe if allows for the QB to learn without getting thrown to the lions and in response developing bad tendencies just to survive

If Will is able to sit for another year and just take it all in . . . I believe we may have something on our hands . . . I personally like Kellen and I believe He gets the best out of His QBs if given time to work with them and learn their strengths & weaknesses

Grier's talents have been recognized His entire career . . . He has legitimate QB skills . . . and He is a Dual threat that the modern game requires . I think we got a diamond in the rough that may come to Fruition when Needed in the next year or so

 

[NotForLong]

This keeps being brought up, but they didn't cough up enough draft capital to go after either. Instead, they hit on Dak in the fourth....before that they hit on Romo undrafted. The Cowboys also are the ones who drafted Mike White, and developed Cooper Rush, two of the best backups in football right now. Also rumored to have been after Sam Howell who looked really good yesterday.

I'd argue the Cowboy's ability to evaluate and get the best out of QBs has been very good overall. Feels like we hold the Cowboys more responsible for Paxton Lynch than we do the Broncos who actually traded up for him.

Drafting QBs in general is a low percentage game, given that the Cowboys have been using scraps to find them is actually pretty amazing.

Which is why uber talented Will Grier factors into this

(I remembered when i was chewed out and ridiculed by Dak Fans because I use go post positive optimistic posts about Mike White. . good times. . . There is still a poster on here that does not call me a Romo Fan . . . He Calls me a Mike White Fan . . .)

Now I am all in for Will Grier . . . Can't wait go see the finished product Moore produces . . . He could be real special

 

[bsbellomy]

I hear people say that "we don't appreciate what we have" and must have forgotten about "the QBs between Aikman and Romo".

We're still there. It's just a little prettier.

It's time for this organization to take the QB position seriously again. I'd much rather be on the QB search than be handcuffed to a QB that requires everything to be perfect around him. The margin for error in roster building is incredibly small with a QB of Dak Prescott's skill level. We have to hit on everything to succeed with Dak at QB and that takes a lot of smarts and luck.

You're not going to draft the next Patrick Mahomes if you handcuff yourself to Alex Smith.

I was in the tank and stack draft picks for Lawrence camp a few years back (one of those years we were bad). I thought for awhile I was stupid but now I think I'm smart again.

 

[cnuball21]

I'm sort of in the same boat...although Dak is clearly better than anything the Cowboys had between the Aikman-Romo days. For that reason I am not eager to get rid of Dak without some plan B in mind, but I also don't think you pass up someone you really like because of Dak. Personally, I think you either have an elite QB or you should always be on the look for one. I think the Cowboys can win with Dak, but give me a Burrow, Mahomes, etc and I'm not setting myself up mentally for a letdown as I am now.

If the Cowboys get an Aaron Rodgers situation in the draft this year I'm all for taking it. If the Cowboys find a mid round guy they want to develop for 2025 they should go for it. It's really just a matter of how everything else falls. The problem is these situations don't happen every year. Sounds like the Cowboys were close last year with Sam Howell, but Washington got to him first.

What I'm not a huge fan of is going the Colts route and continuing to bring in vet QB after vet QB, giving up draft capital and being disappointed every year.

Yea…hitting on someone like Mahomes / Burrow is rare and after those dudes you just hope to get an above average QB. In which case all of those dudes need a great team around them for a playoff run.

I’m perfectly fine if the team decides to move on but like you said better have a plan in place. I’d let Dak continue on his contract and maybe actually try to be aggressive in FA for once to go all in.

We can still draft a QB if a good one falls but no one is coming in here right now with this roster and improving what we’re currently getting which is more good than bad.

 

[CTcowboy203]

Nope.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I hear people say that "we don't appreciate what we have" and must have forgotten about "the QBs between Aikman and Romo".

We're still there. It's just a little prettier.

It's time for this organization to take the QB position seriously again. I'd much rather be on the QB search than be handcuffed to a QB that requires everything to be perfect around him. The margin for error in roster building is incredibly small with a QB of Dak Prescott's skill level. We have to hit on everything to succeed with Dak at QB and that takes a lot of smarts and luck.

You're not going to draft the next Patrick Mahomes if you handcuff yourself to Alex Smith.

no plan except go drafting. there is Mahomes, There is Burrows and Lawrence (#1 over all pick). then there is the following high picks in the first round (not all of them listed)
Zack Wilson #2 pick
Justing Fields #11 pick
Jordan Love (never really seen the field)
Murray (#1 overall pick)
Daineil Jones (#6 pick)
Dwane Haskings #15 pick
Bake Mayfield #1 pick
Darnold #3 pick
Josh Rosen #10 pick
Turbiskey#2 pick
Goff #1 pick
Wentz #2 pick
Lynch #26 pick
Watson #12 pick (#1 rapist)
Winston #1 pick
Mariota #2 pick
Blake Bortles #3 pick
Manziel#22 pick

so since Mahomes was picked in 2016, there are three legit QBs in the first round (Allen, Mahomes, Burrows) and 18 failed and several TBD and unknown (herbert, lance, tua, etc.)

its risky, but last time a pick really worked out, its close to top 10. can't recall a lower round QB over past 8 years that worked out.

there is a much higher chance of failing in first round than succeeding. should one not try? yes we should. when is the right time to try? ...based on Data , you have to be close to top 10 and be lucky on who is coming out.

 

[thunderpimp91]

Yea…hitting on someone like Mahomes / Burrow is rare and after those dudes you just hope to get an above average QB. In which case all of those dudes need a great team around them for a playoff run.

I’m perfectly fine if the team decides to move on but like you said better have a plan in place. I’d let Dak continue on his contract and maybe actually try to be aggressive in FA for once to go all in.

We can still draft a QB if a good one falls but no one is coming in here right now with this roster and improving what we’re currently getting which is more good than bad.

I agree, but my concern comes with how aggressive the Cowboys can actually get in FA. The window to resign Diggs & Lamb just opened up which could both be the top paid at their positions, the financials of Daks contract are really just now starting to become a pain as he is going to count roughly 50MM each of the next two years. Then you have decisions to make on guys like Armstrong, Wilson, etc.

I see an offseason that will be extremely tough to add unless its bargain hunting or through the draft again this year.

The Cowboys seem to be in a spot where they can either redo Daks deal and give him an extension or let him play though with his current deal and have a very small margin of error with other cap decisions.