What an embarrassing board and game thread last night

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scottsp said:
I was wrong. Pops is the superfan. :bow:

Thank You, but No more than several 100 fans, such as yourself, that grace this board scott....
 

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Be honest with yourself. Many of us haven't missed watching a game for years upon years. You can pretty much tell when the Cowboys are going to win and when they are going to lose. This game was one they almost always lose. I admit I was one that moaning and groaning. Why, because they should have blown this team out with all of the injuries and things plaguing the Eagles. I didn't turn the game off. I watched it to the end. Thank god for the win.
 

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Hostile said:
First of all, it is not my forum. It isn't the Mod's forum. It isn't even Reality's, though he pays the bills. Ask him, I guarantee you he agrees. From the word go we have always said the membership makes this board what it is. This forum is every bit as much yours as it is mine. The only difference between you and me is a wall you build in your mind between us. I see every poster as my equal and as co-owner of this forum. It is only as good or as bad as the posters (all of us) make it.

I didn't mean that YOU were the owner of the board, I meant the board in which YOU frequent and YOU discuss the Cowboys.

Hostile said:
Okay, here's the challenge for you then GC. I want you to give me an outline based on that right there, of a Guideline you think this forum ought to adopt and enforce about when someone can say what they think and when they can't.

I'm going to be honest with you, I don't think you or anyone else can come up with one that will be good for this forum. The moment you take away someone's right to be open, this place will become a ghost town. We already get grief because we ask that the posts be clean. Some love this place because they don't have to see the foul language, some left because they can't communicate without foul language.

So, you tell me how to make that fly, because I just don't see it getting off the ground. I saw a similar instance on a rival forum during the draft where a poster was told he couldn't post his opinion of a draft choice without it being positive.

If that's the site you want you're welcome to it. I wouldn't be at all interested.

I never said that those people who were making those impulse idiotic statements have no right to do that, did I? Of course thay can. I just said that it's embarrassing and childish and I still beleive it. It seems that you take my comments about the board personal. I was only talking about a select few posters who were quitting on the game last night and ripping every player after they made a bad play.

Hostile said:
Find me a fanbase for any team or any forum where it doesn't happen and I'll show you a forum of 6 Pollyanna's who talk to each other and wear rose colored glasses while sipping Kool-aid.

You're basically saying people have to think like you or else.

No thanks.

You're not really understanding what I'm saying. I just offered an opinion of how lame it was for people to quit on the team and turn the TV off and go to bed crying. To rip a player and say he 's awful after a bad play and then turn around and say the exact opposite about the same player after a great play. What is that? I'm not saying they can't do that, but seriously, what the heck is that?

Hostile said:
I think people can go overboard but so what? It adds flavor to the forum. You can live in your vanilla world. Give me a variety of opinions and several that I don't agree with any day.

Again you are way off base and seem to be taking my criticism of the board last night personal. Your making no sense. When did I say people had no right to their opinions? When did I say that if everybody agreed with my opinion that this would be a better message board? Of course we all have a right to criticize the team about poor play. I was huffing and puffing last night about our inability to move the ball quite a bit. But what I didn't do was say that Bledsoe is awful and we need a new QB because he threw that stupid pick and I didn't say that Ware was a bust because he got blown up on a running play and so on and so on. People that were making those type of post have a right to say those things and I have a right to say that those people sound like spoiled little brats and I also have the right to say that the game thread and other threads on this board last night were embarrassing.
 

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People are getting so wrapped up in this negativity and micro grief that they are missing out on the journey.

I can't remember a more fun season and sense of upbeat since the early 90's. Step back - you could be a Jets fan! Man that would suck today are a San Fran or Houston fan. Even worse an Eagle fan today.

Some need to get over hanging on to their binkies. Glenn Craanno was spot on with the irrational and ill thought out knee jerk stuff that goes on here.

Bledsoe is our QB - accept that. Those calling for his demise get on board or leave.

We are going with a very new 3-4 defense, a new and rookie Laden team. There was going to be bumps. We have been in EVERY game. Comeback wins, clutch wins and 3 killer emotional losses.

We are 6-3 and tied for 1st in NFC East. We have essentially swept and knocked out Eagles. We are on verge of playoffs and contending.

Cardiac season - you betcha - I've been enjoying this journey since Day 1 of camp. Everyon man up and get on board. Its ok to enjoy this....


This is a special season, we could be far worse off. And the dommesayers and gloomers and usually the guys with no skin in the game would be giddy as pigs in mud outside a sewage plant.

Yesterday I asked who was going to be the Kmart of this season? Roy Williams stepped up and said me.

Lead, duck or get out of the way.
 

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I was just sittin there saying, someone on this defense make a play. After Glenn scored, I thought, ********, it's about time we steal one from someone. Terrible play selection Philly, they run on all us all day, and then decide when the game is on the line to fall back on the pass. Thanks Donovan.
 

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IMO< the negativity comes from the fact that Dallas has had only 1 statement game all year, Philly in Dallas, and could easily be 2-7 or 9-0. THis team is so inconsistant and in all reality doesnt look as good as many of you make them out to be.

However, we have won more than 6 games only once this millenium, so I'll take it
 

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NovaCowboy said:
give it up Glenn, its all over except the cryin.

Very insightful dude.

If it's all over, why are you back to this thread?

Hos asked me a question earlier, I was working and didn't have time to answer it, I'm now home and have time.
 

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Roy Williams made the play.

That was a huge statement. We made the play to win the day.

On Bledsoe I won't do it but there was a HUGE Anti Bledsoe bias month leading up to him signing..... Its there but Props many have indeed embraced Drew as this journey goes forward!
 

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Careful not to let this go to far gentlemen.......Relax and Enjoy the W we achieved last night. :smile:
 

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NovaCowboy said:
ahhh its all in good fun....

right Glenn?? ole bubby ole pal

seriously nova do you ever contrinute anything worthwhile to the board ?
 

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Glenn Carano said:
Very insightful dude.

If it's all over, why are you back to this thread?

Hos asked me a question earlier, I was working and didn't have time to answer it, I'm now home and have time.

You were spot on in your initial post -

Some can't grasp that concept, half the problem - JMO
 

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Glenn Carano said:
I didn't mean that YOU were the owner of the board, I meant the board in which YOU frequent and YOU discuss the Cowboys.
I was just clarifying who this site belongs to. It belongs to the collective membership.

Glenn Carano said:
I never said that those people who were making those impulse idiotic statements have no right to do that, did I? Of course thay can. I just said that it's embarrassing and childish and I still beleive it.
In fairness no you didn't. But you're still basically having an issue with them having the temerity to say what they are thinking.

Tell me this, what do you want them to do? Does every fan have to be just like you?

See, that's all I'm asking. Come up with the plastic formula that keeps everyone inside the box.

I really don't have any issue with your dislike of this other than the statement "so called fans." To me that is saying you're better than anyone else just because of the way you think. Do you catch my drift?

If you want to tell me you knew all along we were going to win and never had a doubt enter your mind and never were worried, and never cussed the fates going against us I am going to call BS. Everyone does it. You can't tell me that you sit there emotionless through good or bad times. You just can't. I don't believe that of any fan for any team.

Glenn Carano said:
It seems that you take my comments about the board personal. I was only talking about a select few posters who were quitting on the game last night and ripping every player after they made a bad play.
No I really don't take this personal, nor should you. You said something I disagree with. "So called fans." When I see stuff like that I respond. I don't even like the constant negativity myself. That doesn't matter to me in a situation like this. No matter who you are disgusted with they are a fan, not a "so called fan." I object to the label. No Cowboys fan deserves that.

Glenn Carano said:
You're not really understanding what I'm saying. I just offered an opinion of how lame it was for people to quit on the team and turn the TV off and go to bed crying. To rip a player and say he 's awful after a bad play and then turn around and say the exact opposite about the same player after a great play. What is that? I'm not saying they can't do that, but seriously, what the heck is that?
Actually I undestand exactly what you are saying. Listen, I am not condoning the flip flopping over the top emotionalism. I'm not condoning that at all.

I'm just saying people who were posting last night were riding a roller coaster of emotions and they posted what they felt. That doesn't make them horrible creatures who deserve to be exiled from this forum. In fact it makes some of them very interesting to me at times. Watch closely, more often than not I either post jokingly about stuff or if I get into a debate, such as this, I do it because I find the discussion topic interesting.

I'm not telling you that you have to recant "so called fans" or that you are more or less of a fan than anyone else. I'm saying by labeling people you pushed a button that draws a response from me. All I'm doing is pleading the case of my fellow fans who were negative last night, but whom are still fans. People who bleed silver and blue. I'm acting as advocate right now. Nothing more. I'm not against you or your ideas or the support you've received from other fans.

If the shoe were on the other foot and the pessimists were telling you that you are a "so called fan" I'd be defending you.

Capice?



Glenn Carano said:
Again you are way off base and seem to be taking my criticism of the board last night personal.
On this point you are correct. I'm very proud of this forum and the members here. Every one of them. Even those I clash with. I object to their devotion being questioned and the forum itself drug into it in the thread title. Not real thrilled with that.

Glenn Carano said:
Your making no sense. When did I say people had no right to their opinions? When did I say that if everybody agreed with my opinion that this would be a better message board? Of course we all have a right to criticize the team about poor play. I was huffing and puffing last night about our inability to move the ball quite a bit.
Ah, so you admit we all ride the roller coaster. Now, you just need to recognize not everyone rides the same one.

Glenn Carano said:
But what I didn't do was say that Bledsoe is awful and we need a new QB because he threw that stupid pick and I didn't say that Ware was a bust because he got blown up on a running play and so on and so on.
Yes, but this is you. That's the point I am trying to make with you. Does poster "John Doe" have to be just like that? What about poster "John Q. Public?" Fans opinions run a full spectrum of emotions. This is just my opinion but that is what makes message boards fun and exciting. You never know which way the ride is going to take you. If that's not your cup of tea, then so be it.

Look, do you ever see me going off the deep end about a player? I personally think not likely. If you think I have then point it out for me. I like some better than others, but I try to be realistic. Does 1 play here or there define a player? No, and everyone knows that.

Does one comment posted with emotion behind it because of frustration taint a fan to the area of "so called fan?"

I can't go with you there even though the negativity can drive me bonkers at times. That's a line I simply will not cross unless I'm joking around and you were dead serious.

Glenn Carano said:
People that were making those type of post have a right to say those things and I have a right to say that those people sound like spoiled little brats and I also have the right to say that the game thread and other threads on this board last night were embarrassing.
100% correct. If you had said all that you did without questioning people's devotion to the team I'm probably an ally in this instead of a foe. I jumped in because you questioned the posters, not because I disagree with you. I don't disagree with you. People go overboard.

"Embarrassing?" I'm sorry, I can't go there. Make it "laughable" and less personal towards them as persons (and fans) and I'm on board.
 

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Portland Fanatic said:
Just curious...who's been calling for Bledsoe's demise? Maybe i've just not read those threads....

They are around but most are Bills fans :D
 

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HeavyHitta31 said:
IMO< the negativity comes from the fact that Dallas has had only 1 statement game all year, Philly in Dallas, and could easily be 2-7 or 9-0. THis team is so inconsistant and in all reality doesnt look as good as many of you make them out to be.

However, we have won more than 6 games only once this millenium, so I'll take it

I must say though that we are NOT 2-7 or 9-0 we are instead 6-3 and I for one think that is a good thing comparatively speaking. I do think Nors has a point..many were calling us an 7-9 or 8-8 team at best which although possible would now seem like a stretch.

I am enjoying the ride :) :D:starspin
 
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