What Are The Chances That Extension Talks With Dak Go Bad?

[TwistedL0g1k]

I'm in favor of an extension if it allows the team to trade him, and the team does just that. We're stuck in Purgatory. It's depressing to even think about....

 

[DandyDon52]

Daks cap figure is already 21.8 mils in 2025 even with this being his first void year. How much more money do you want to push into that year without having a #1 qb?

No. You cant restructure and you cant let him play out his contract. If you do the latter have fun creating cap space. You will need to bleed your team to death.

Dak is going to get a new contract. And our FO gave him such a bad deal now Prescott can ask essentially for whatever he wants.

prescott and his agent really outsmarted the jones boys with previous contract.
Also they pushed too much $ to later years, and now are right where dak wants them to be. lol
Then on top of all that they didnt go all in for the 1st 2 years of that deal, and they had the wrong coaches, so it was going to fail regardless.
It is a comedy of errors with the jones boys, and why they have not got past the div round in 28 years and counting.
It is why I gave up on them years ago.

 

[stiletto]

I'm in favor of an extension if it allows the team to trade him, and the team does just that. We're stuck in Purgatory. It's depressing to even think about....

12-5 purgatory? At least the team is competitive. Better make sure you replace Dak with someone BETTER before you make any kind of move. Real purgatory is 7-10, 8-9, 9-8 with some dope as a QB. So many have forgotten the years after Aikman and seem keen to go back. It blows my mind.

 

[CTcowboy203]

I have no problem not extending dak. Technically however the cowboys aren’t in “purgatory” they’ve put together their best back to back years in a long long time. That’s more a product of how fall they’ve fallen from grace but it’s the truth

 

[LatinMind]

Lol imagine the Tony pollard threads 2 yrs into a new deal these same posters in this thread want.

 

[TexasBoys2288]

Let the turnover machine walk. Enough said.

 

[Vanilla2]

lol. I bet the extension/restructure was written into the contract. All this talk is you all eating the cheese

 

[Buzzbait]

And who could blame the players. Their career could end at any moment . And the franchises dump them at their discretion.

Like the owners and everyone involved isn’t in this for the money. Players get a bad rap. It’s their bodies and lives on the line .

True except for one thing, it's not about "a player", it's about a TEAM. The owners have to field a TEAM, not just a player. And the rest of that team expects to get paid as well. Should the rest of the team be expected to forfeit their fair share for the greed of one? The size of the pie is limited. The pie doesn't expand because one guy holds out in Cabo, it just shrinks.

 

[Mannix]

We all know that Jerry and Co will attempt to double down on their mistake and try and extend Dak to help the cap hit.

What are the chances that Dak's agent and or Dak have a higher asking price than our FO believes he is worth? Is there a chance that they just take it on the chin and ride the current deal out and move on if that's the case?

I'm not on the up and up when it comes to extensions, but is it set in stone that once talk starts Dak will be extended or could things go bad?

Lets hope so!!!

 

[Whyjerry]

Dak will be a 31 year old QB the next contract. He won’t have the same leverage. 2 more years will be all Dallas needs to know if it is time to move on. If this season ends like last 2024 will be the last year Dak is a Cowboy. I am sure of this. They should also draft QBs the next 2 years. I am also in the record that I would grab Tanner McKee if he comes to them.

 

[DandyDon1722]

Extend/restructure Dak to lower the cap hit and draft a QB if there's a kid out there whose potential we love.

That's the logical route.

Agree except for this.

We should draft a QB every single year in some round based on the potential the team feels he has. If there is a way out of the mess we're in it is hitting on a QB in a late round but it happens.

My reasoning is that the emergence of QB camps and the evolution of the position where kids get 1500 reps before ever getting out of high school has changed the dynamics of the position. They are so much more prepared when they get to college and their skill set has changed.

We're not looking for the next Aikman - those guys were always rare. We're looking for the next Allen, Hurts, Jackson etc, and they are being developed at this very moment at all levels of football.

 

[rambo2]

How about if he wants 50m a year?
Dak held this front office's feet to the fire last contract to extract every dime from Jerry that he could get.
Who's to say he wont do it again?

I will.

 

[McKDaddy]

They don't have to extend Dak for cap purposes.

There are 2 void years on the end of his contract.
- They can push more money into the 1st void year (2025).
- They currently have 208M of cap space in 2025.
- Obviously they would need to replace him in 2025, but they can keep in in 2023 & 2024 without an extension.

The realistic point to move on from Dak would be 2025.
- Draft a QB in 2023 and maybe another one in 2024.
- If neither one works out, then they can extend Dak in 2025.

Who is going to watch him play for 2 more seasons? I mean seriously.
The fan base is fed up. Excuses aren't going to cut it for 2 more years.

 

[America's Cowboy]

LMAO

 

[Hawkeye0202]

How about if he wants 50m a year?
Dak held this front office's feet to the fire last contract to extract every dime from Jerry that he could get.
Who's to say he wont do it again?

I'm 100% convinced he and Todd France WILL NOT agree to extend or restructure w/o NEW guaranteed money and years of a min $45M+. This is what I've been saying, I'm not sure fans realize how fluid this issue is or how fast it can get ugly. The problem is there is no easy solution. The contract is structured on the concept used for Aikman and Romo but both were quietly done w/o any issues. Why.......Aikman was easy coz he had already won a Super Bowl deserving more money and Romo was trending upward. Dak on the other hand just completed probably the worst season of his career and it's just so happens to be the SAME year they have to address his contract. So as you can see timing is everything here but again it's no easy solution.

One thing is for sure........they ARE NOT the same loving couple now that they were the first 3-5 years. When was the last time you heard Jerry or Stephen speak about Dak using the franchise QB tone? Just me but it appears Jerry and Stephen are at Dak and Tood France mercy. They gotta get his cap reduced, no ifs, and or but, it has to come down with or without Dak on the team but they can't do UNLESS Dak and France play alone and agree to new money of same as he's making ($40m) or a slight bump to $42-43M. My guess is Dak, and France is thinking $45M+ min.

We will see what happens but the fact the Cowboys are already leaking trying to scare Dak and France by leaking draft possibilities speaks volume that things ARE NOT going well so far.

 

[AbeBeta]

We all know that Jerry and Co will attempt to double down on their mistake and try and extend Dak to help the cap hit.

What are the chances that Dak's agent and or Dak have a higher asking price than our FO believes he is worth? Is there a chance that they just take it on the chin and ride the current deal out and move on if that's the case?

I'm not on the up and up when it comes to extensions, but is it set in stone that once talk starts Dak will be extended or could things go bad?

This is a pretty standard restructure and extension.

Fans need to learn to recognize contract structure. This is just how stuff goes.

It is nothing. "Hey Dak, can we extend you two year and pay you in advance for the last two year of your current deal?" sort of a no-brainer, bro

 

[Hawkeye0202]

It's simple. Draft a QB in first round. Keep Prescott for this season whilst we ease in the rookie. Dump Prescott end of next season ideally via trade or just cut him.

Time to put the wheels in motion in this draft that the front office is moving on.

Understand the thinking.........keep in mind going the route you are suggesting means we are eating $50M cap hit which will certainly impact the quality of the roster meaning could be looking at a losing season. If that happens we are drafting fairly high for the 2024 draft. So what would you rather do? Reach for a QB with the 2023 26th pick or wait for the 2024 draft where we could be drafting much higher?

 

[buybuydandavis]

If I were the Cowboys I would not make any hasty Dak decisions until I see what the 2023 year looks like under McCarthy's influence/accountability with the offense. The exception being, Dak is willing to extend his contract for a Brady-like deal that enables the Cowboys to hire more fire power for the offense. If 2023 looks like the ceiling has been hit, it may be time to move on from Dak and build the offense around a QB TBD.

Fired a DC.
Fired an OC that Jerry could call his own.
It should be a prove it year for McCarthy and Dak.
And it just might be.

But expecting players to take a home town discount is a pipe dream.
Bidness is bidness.

 

[Jarntt]

No extension. No restructure. They need to start ticking away at his cap hit not making it worse by restructuring him or even worse extending him.

The only way you save cap space is by not paying out salary. The cap is not a one year thing. Because of rollovers of cap savings and the way contracts are structured it’s an ongoing multi-year thing that needs to be looked at as such. Why people have this narrow view that restructuring him helps the cap just because it lowers his 2023 cap hit is nuts. You hurt the cap if that restructure causes you to keep a guy longer than you otherwise would have wanted to - see Zeke for example. And you hurt the cap by paying out non guaranteed salary. Restructures in and of themselves are cap neutral but when it causes you to keep paying a player those non guaranteed $’s because of the dead cap space it creates that cripples your cap it is a negative. You can restructure other guys. You don’t restructure a guy that you may not want in 3 years. If we decide this time next year that Dak is our guy you can extend him then (and I hope this happens and am not saying it won’t) but until we know that We need to keep our options open.

I’ve said it before. Cutting Zeke and designating him post 6/1 saves you $10.9M. Doing the same with aTyron saves $13.6M. Restructuring $12M of Martins contract and spreading it over the 4 years he already has cap hits in saves you $9M. There is zero need to touch Dak’s contract.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

This is a pretty standard restructure and extension.

Fans need to learn to recognize contract structure. This is just how stuff goes.

It is nothing. "Hey Dak, can we extend you two year and pay you in advance for the last two year of your current deal?" sort of a no-brainer, bro

His $31M 2023 salary is the last of any guaranteed money. $34M due 2024 is non-guaranteed. OK ....in exchange for what? Canceling his 2024 out and locking in 2-3 more years? So he gets $65M guaranteed?