What Are The Chances That Extension Talks With Dak Go Bad?

[john van brocklin]

I'm 100% convinced he and Todd France WILL NOT agree to extend or restructure w/o NEW guaranteed money and years of a min $45M+. This is what I've been saying, I'm not sure fans realize how fluid this issue is or how fast it can get ugly. The problem is there is no easy solution. The contract is structured on the concept used for Aikman and Romo but both were quietly done w/o any issues. Why.......Aikman was easy coz he had already won a Super Bowl deserving more money and Romo was trending upward. Dak on the other hand just completed probably the worst season of his career and it's just so happens to be the SAME year they have to address his contract. So as you can see timing is everything here but again it's no easy solution.

One thing is for sure........they ARE NOT the same loving couple now that they were the first 3-5 years. When was the last time you heard Jerry or Stephen speak about Dak using the franchise QB tone? Just me but it appears Jerry and Stephen are at Dak and Tood France mercy. They gotta get his cap reduced, no ifs, and or but, it has to come down with or without Dak on the team but they can't do UNLESS Dak and France play alone and agree to new money of same as he's making ($40m) or a slight bump to $42-43M. My guess is Dak, and France is thinking $45M+ min.

We will see what happens but the fact the Cowboys are already leaking trying to scare Dak and France by leaking draft possibilities speaks volume that things ARE NOT going well so far.

Dak and agent know they got all the leverage.
Dak should take a paycut after leading the NFL in interceptions.
I would be happy just biting the bullet and moving on from Dak or letting him play out the contract.
I sure wish we had a professional GM handling this.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Dak and agent know they got all the leverage.
Dak should take a paycut after leading the NFL in interceptions.
I would be happy just biting the bullet and moving on from Dak or letting him play out the contract.
I sure wish we had a professional GM handling this.

Honestly, I can't help but wonder if privately Jerry and Stephen are saying the same thing. Perhaps if not a pay cut at least work with them to get his cap numbers down by agreeing to the same salary or just a slight bump of a million or two. Now imagine if he and his agent are only refusing a pay cut or slight bump, but think he should be paid $45M+? As I have said, this can get ugly really fast if they aren't careful

 

[john van brocklin]

Honestly, I can't help but wonder if privately Jerry and Stephen are saying the same thing. Perhaps if not a pay cut at least work with them to get his cap numbers down by agreeing to the same salary or just a slight bump of a million or two. Now imagine if he and his agent are only refusing a pay cut or slight bump, but think he should be paid $45M+? As I have said, this can get ugly really fast if they aren't careful

Agreed!
Don't make Jerry angry,
Just ask Cooper.

 

[Nav22]

Agree except for this.

We should draft a QB every single year in some round based on the potential the team feels he has. If there is a way out of the mess we're in it is hitting on a QB in a late round but it happens.

My reasoning is that the emergence of QB camps and the evolution of the position where kids get 1500 reps before ever getting out of high school has changed the dynamics of the position. They are so much more prepared when they get to college and their skill set has changed.

We're not looking for the next Aikman - those guys were always rare. We're looking for the next Allen, Hurts, Jackson etc, and they are being developed at this very moment at all levels of football.

I like the general idea of drafting a QB regularly, but every single year feels like overkill.

How many of them would even see the field? Can't discover a hidden gem when he doesn't even get to play.

Lots of QBs get drafted every year, but very few of them ever become as good as the guys you mentioned. Part of that may be due to them not ever getting the opportunity to be "the man."

 

[Beast_from_East]

Jerry should go to Dak's agent and point blank say "We simply do not think Dak is the answer here in Dallas so we would like you to renegotiate his deal to void the no-trade element to the contract while reworking the deal so it is affordable for Dallas to trade Dak to a team of his choosing. If you do not do that then Dak will sit the bench this season while we go with someone else while making sure to tell the world that Dallas has had enough of Dak.".....but that will never happen and what team in the Top of the draft would offer the picks necessary for Dallas to select a replacement like CJ Shroud or Anthony Richardson? Oh well, drunken dreams.

Jerry is going to tell the world he has had enough of Dak, he is not the guy we thought he was, and we are benching him immediately.

Are you actually serious or is this a joke I am missing?

Hell could freeze over, thaw out, and then refreeze a million times over before Jerry would ever even think of doing that, come on now.

 

[Beast_from_East]

True except for one thing, it's not about "a player", it's about a TEAM. The owners have to field a TEAM, not just a player. And the rest of that team expects to get paid as well. Should the rest of the team be expected to forfeit their fair share for the greed of one? The size of the pie is limited. The pie doesn't expand because one guy holds out in Cabo, it just shrinks.

That is true, but nobody forced the Cowboys to sign Dak or Zeke to new contracts, they could have let both of them walk in free agency if the team wanted to.

Dont blame the players because Jerry and the Cowboys caved, its not Dak or Zeke's job to distribute the pie, that is the job of the GM.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

Jerry and Sons are football idiots and anything they do with Dak simply will not surprise me.
The question here is how are they going to be able to control a fan base and locker room that will be in volcano mode over inepto Dak giving away more games?
Stay for the humor and forget any possibilities that this clown show will ever produce anything close to an NFC Championship game.

 

[Hadenough]

We all know that Jerry and Co will attempt to double down on their mistake and try and extend Dak to help the cap hit.

What are the chances that Dak's agent and or Dak have a higher asking price than our FO believes he is worth? Is there a chance that they just take it on the chin and ride the current deal out and move on if that's the case?

I'm not on the up and up when it comes to extensions, but is it set in stone that once talk starts Dak will be extended or could things go bad?

If I was Jerry I would tell Dak and his agent they are not going to be extending Dak and for what Daks getting paid he will be washing toilets at Jerry's house and waxing Jerry's cars.

 

[noshame]

We can cut Zeke or greatly reduce his cap and extend a few others allowing Dak to play one more season under this contract.
Then everything changes.

we need to draft a solid QB prospect this year and another next year if needed.
If Jerry does this I'll will be singing his praises all year.

However if he extends Dak we'll be doomed to sub .500 seasons for years.

 

[Hadenough]

Jerry and Sons are football idiots and anything they do with Dak simply will not surprise me.
The question here is how are they going to be able to control a fan base and locker room that will be in volcano mode over inepto Dak giving away more games?
Stay for the humor and forget any possibilities that this clown show will ever produce anything close to an NFC Championship game.

This team has won without Dak and it looked more like a collective effort where they all played harder.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

This team has won without Dak and it looked more like a collective effort where they all played harder.

Let's not kid ourselves this team with a TRUE talented franchise QB increases their chances for an SB tenfold.

 

[Starforever]

As a fan, the business portion of this team, is what it is. The top brass, will make moves that fans don't like. They will also make moves that are celebrated. It is what it is. Twenty-seven years and counting, Go Cowboys!

 

[visionary]

My prediction:

Dak gets extended for 3 years at 45 million
Reduces the cap hit but still hamstrings the team and ties us to Dak for more years
No trade clause stays

That’s what Dak will want and get because he is a company man who wants money “just wants enough to feed his family and to put food on the table”

you know the 10th generation of his family

This is what happens when you have an owner and GM who have no idea what they are looking at or how to get where they want to go

 

[Beast_from_East]

My prediction:

Dak gets extended for 3 years at 45 million
Reduces the cap hit but still hamstrings the team and ties us to Dak for more years
No trade clause stays

That’s what Dak will want and get because he is a company man who wants money “just wants enough to feed his family and to put food on the table”

you know the 10th generation of his family

This is what happens when you have an owner and GM who have no idea what they are looking at or how to get where they want to go

I think this is exactly what is going to happen.

Dak is going to get extended at the market rate for several more years and everything else like no trade clause and no franchise tag will all stay the same.

Some posters will celebrate, some posters will cry, some posters will be pissed, but at the end of the day it all comes down to one simple fact.............It's Jerry's team and he can do whatever the hell he wants to.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

After he and his son have spent all this time selling Prescott constantly to the fans that still listen to them? And Prescott does have fans regardless of how some feel about him here.

There is another part of this that we are not privy to, the Cowboys sponsors that probably think it's a great thing that the DC QB is the NFL Man of the Year, cements and makes them happy about their sponsorship investment after having some not so great moments with players like Joseph, Brent and Elliott. Those sponsors are gold to the Joneses. They pay a hell of a lot to be exclusive and a part of the team.

Wanna hear something interesting........one tweeter implied THIS, the same thing you are suggesting, is Daks and the Cowboy's real problem. He suggested Dak, Jerry and Stephen got too caught up with Dak value to the team off the field....as in face of the team, persona, corp sponsor, being QB of the Dallas Cowboys RATHER than working on his craft/game like a Jalen Hurts did.

To be honest, reading that, gave me a bit of a different perspective coz something I think we all can agree on.........his performance during the 49er's playoff loss has left a scar on fans, media and some would argue, Jerry and coaches also.

 

[75boyz]

I'm actually scared. Our front office is one of only a few that could legitimately make a bad contract even worse whilst trying to 'restructure' it for a better deal.

A smart front office is trying to restructure with a view of how quickly they can get out of this albatross of a contract.

I hope they don't restructure.. take the cap hit this season.. rebuild the line, WR corp and add some CBs.. and pick a QB early. Then ride Dak while the Rookie learns the playbook.. then take the cap hit on Dak next year and hopefully find a solution at QB.

This

 

[Hawkeye0202]

My prediction:

Dak gets extended for 3 years at 45 million
Reduces the cap hit but still hamstrings the team and ties us to Dak for more years
No trade clause stays

That’s what Dak will want and get because he is a company man who wants money “just wants enough to feed his family and to put food on the table”

you know the 10th generation of his family

This is what happens when you have an owner and GM who have no idea what they are looking at or how to get where they want to go

I tend to agree, somewhat........I say 3 years at $45M but only 2 years guaranteed ( 2023 and 2024) and the trade clause is removed and the new out is 2025 instead 2024. Two years is the same as MM has left on his deal. I think Dak will take this coz he's guaranteed $90M over the next couple of years as opposed to his current deal of $31M guaranteed for 2023 and $34M non-guaranteed 2024.

No question, he has Jerry and Stephen bent over and not a darn thing they can do accept pay him but keep it as short as possible. It would not surprise me if privately they are livid and would rather move on.

 

[Bullflop]

Dak and his agent are likely aware of his value to the Cowboys and what he isn't.

We surely shouldn't be too surprised if they lock him in for several years to come.

 

[USArmyVet]

After he and his son have spent all this time selling Prescott constantly to the fans that still listen to them? And Prescott does have fans regardless of how some feel about him here.

There is another part of this that we are not privy to, the Cowboys sponsors that probably think it's a great thing that the DC QB is the NFL Man of the Year, cements and makes them happy about their sponsorship investment after having some not so great moments with players like Joseph, Brent and Elliott. Those sponsors are gold to the Joneses. They pay a hell of a lot to be exclusive and a part of the team.

So that would mean winning comes second to marketing.....as everyone knows is the case in Dallas.

 

[noshame]

I think this is exactly what is going to happen.

Dak is going to get extended at the market rate for several more years and everything else like no trade clause and no franchise tag will all stay the same.

Some posters will celebrate, some posters will cry, some posters will be pissed, but at the end of the day it all comes down to one simple fact.............It's Jerry's team and he can do whatever the hell he wants to.

Only until he becomes weekend at Jerry's