What Are The Chances That Garrett Wins Coach of the Year?

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I think he has as good a chance as anyone else. The team has to show improvement above what is expected of them. That is not impossible.


I'll come out and say that it's IMPOSSIBLE. Why? Because hehas already demonstrated ability to LOSE a few game by his poor coaching decisions and has not shown me a single game where HIS coaching won us the game.
 

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Lets say we have a healthy team and play well, making the playoffs.. The defense is vastly improved and no in game miscues. Could Red be recognized an awarded the Coach of the Year?

That just means Marnelli is the man and should win D coach of the year not Garrett.
 

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I'm sure it is, it's one of the most embarrassing moments of any head coach in recent memory.

It wasn't even a mistake, much less an embarrassment.

Which always cracks me up, because Garrett had a significant clock management error in the same series leading up to the time out that gets a fraction of the criticism using the time out as he should have when his ST wanted it does.
 

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Lets say we have a healthy team and play well, making the playoffs.. The defense is vastly improved and no in game miscues. Could Red be recognized an awarded the Coach of the Year?

I don't think he would because the credit would go to Marinelli and Linehan. No one would believe credit should go to Garrett.
 

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It wasn't even a mistake, much less an embarrassment.

Which always cracks me up, because Garrett had a significant clock management error in the same series leading up to the time out that gets a fraction of the criticism using the time out as he should have when his ST wanted it does.

I'll stipulate that the "icing the kicker" wasn't the issue,but it is the game that might be the single handedly worse series of coaching in my memory. I just rewatched on the the Game Rewind. The fact that there was 2 TOs and the only one used was right after clocking the ball to set up for a FG says alot (i.e. why even clock the ball? Just call the TO w/ 7 seconds left)

1:06 left - 1st and 10 on the Cardinal 44 - False start
1:06 left - 1st and 15 - incomplete pass 12 yards on a sideline route
1:01 left - 2nd and 15 - Delay of game (a staple of the Garrett Romo "snap the ball w/ 0:00001 on the clock" that provides 0 benefit - See Brady and Manning, Brees, et al)

1:01 left - 2nd and 20 - now at the 50 - Dez catches a 9 yrd pass in bounds with 0:54 remaining (No TO and 3rd down conversion likely needed for a good FG attempt)
0:32 left (18 seconds to snap the ball). Romo and Dez bail out the issue of not taking a TO on the previous play with a great throw and catch over the middle for a first down.(TO could have been called at 0:24 seconds)
0:07 - Ball clocked to settle for a 49yd FG.
0:07 - TO called right beffore the snap - Missed FG, take a TO in the pocket to end regulation - lose in OT.

I am sure some other coach has made a similar dumb series at one point - but I could never imgine a Parcells caliber coach (or any attention to detail/scenario coach doing the same)
 

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I think this gets my vote for the worst reason for disliking Jason Garrett ever. It's right up there with not liking the way Tony wears his hat for me.

This.

That icing the kicker myth has been debunked numerous times. These Icers just wont give up.

Icers and Realists - LOL
 

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I'll stipulate that the "icing the kicker" wasn't the issue,but it is the game that might be the single handedly worse series of coaching in my memory. I just rewatched on the the Game Rewind. The fact that there was 2 TOs and the only one used was right after clocking the ball to set up for a FG says alot (i.e. why even clock the ball? Just call the TO w/ 7 seconds left)

1:06 left - 1st and 10 on the Cardinal 44 - False start
1:06 left - 1st and 15 - incomplete pass 12 yards on a sideline route
1:01 left - 2nd and 15 - Delay of game (a staple of the Garrett Romo "snap the ball w/ 0:00001 on the clock" that provides 0 benefit - See Brady and Manning, Brees, et al)

1:01 left - 2nd and 20 - now at the 50 - Dez catches a 9 yrd pass in bounds with 0:54 remaining (No TO and 3rd down conversion likely needed for a good FG attempt)
0:32 left (18 seconds to snap the ball). Romo and Dez bail out the issue of not taking a TO on the previous play with a great throw and catch over the middle for a first down.(TO could have been called at 0:24 seconds)
0:07 - Ball clocked to settle for a 49yd FG.
0:07 - TO called right beffore the snap - Missed FG, take a TO in the pocket to end regulation - lose in OT.

I am sure some other coach has made a similar dumb series at one point - but I could never imgine a Parcells caliber coach (or any attention to detail/scenario coach doing the same)

I completely agree. That series was completely botched, for so many reasons. The dead ball penalties drive me nuts in the fist place. Mostly, I hated that we had plenty of time for a nice, conservative running play to be called at the end of regulation to pick up another 2-3 critical yards. Or a great place to try a gutsy play action and get well within range. 'Trusting your kicker' is not an excuse at that range when you have the likelihood you can get closer and it costs you nothing.

I'm only saying here that the icing thing is a giant non-issue. Especially when there was so much to actually criticize, as you point out.
 

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he wins it hands down

agree he wins hands down, meaning whether people are raising their hands to voter for Garrett or keeping them down while writing their votes for him, either way it goes he will be winning it this season.
 

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Lets say we have a healthy team and play well, making the playoffs.. The defense is vastly improved and no in game miscues. Could Red be recognized an awarded the Coach of the Year?


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If Garrett wins 11 or 12 games then he should be named coach of the year. However if he just wins 8 or 9 games and sneaks in the playoffs in a bad division then no.
 

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Lets say we have a healthy team and play well, making the playoffs.. The defense is vastly improved and no in game miscues. Could Red be recognized an awarded the Coach of the Year?

I'd say at least 1 in 32.
 

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I completely agree. That series was completely botched, for so many reasons. The dead ball penalties drive me nuts in the fist place. Mostly, I hated that we had plenty of time for a nice, conservative running play to be called at the end of regulation to pick up another 2-3 critical yards. Or a great place to try a gutsy play action and get well within range. 'Trusting your kicker' is not an excuse at that range when you have the likelihood you can get closer and it costs you nothing.

I'm only saying here that the icing thing is a giant non-issue. Especially when there was so much to actually criticize, as you point out.
Agree. I think of the "icing your kicker game" as the moniker for the botched game. It wasn't that play the caused the game but it was mostly coaching ineptitude at the end that is almost unarguable. I can never recall a game on any level where a coach leaves a TO on the field to settle for a 1st and 10 49yd fg with what could have been 0:25 on the clock. Even worse the drive started at almost midfield with 2min left.

The whole thing was completely unexpected and unprepared and that is inexcusable for a NFL coach. And he took basically no responsibility in the aftermath.
 

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What are the chances of Garrett being COY? I can't take the question and answer it with a straight face. He is still in his on-the-job training position and a COY question is brought up. That is comedy gold.
 

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Garrett's chances of winning "coach of the year" are likely non-existent, imho. We have entirely too many unknowns and longshots in terms of questionable players with questionable talents. Add to that the fact that the Cowboys' schedule this year is much too difficult to make a "coach of the year" consideration for Garrett anything remotely resembling believable.
 
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