What if Brian Schottenheimer really is the right guy

[jazzcat22]

I think the Dallas Cowboys football team, the most valuable sports team in the world deserves a Head coach that is clearly at the top of their field and not a career assistant coach that has bounced around the league for years.

And just who would / should that coach be?

 

[jazzcat22]

You have a better chance of hitting the lottery every week than the Cowboys do of being successful next year

If I were to bet on that. I would choose the Cowboys being successful.

 

[jazzcat22]

The only chance we have ( not sure I will see it in my lifetime)
Is that all of us stop spending
And stop buying tickets and merchandise

Jerry and his son don’t care about winning as much as they do the brand and th illusion of winning

If the cash train stops then he might sell the Team and then maybe they can change the culture and start winning

You go right ahead and do your part then. And by you posting, though negative (another one), it promotes them.

 

[jazzcat22]

I can appreciate this post but there is no right guy as long as the wrong guy is in the press box

How did you feel, and this question goes to others as well.
When Jerry bought the team, and named Jimmy Johnson as HC?

I bet name were in an uproar and scratched their heads.

 

[Carson]

Ive cooled off about the hate on this hiring. Granted, I still don’t like it.

But, this could work in the event of them hiring a guy like Eberflus to run the D and a guy like Lynn to run the offense.

If Schottenheimer steps back away from play calling it could work. He is a hard nosed tough guy and will hopefully clear up the penalties.

 

[jazzcat22]

"If" is the concerning word in all this.

"If" is the concerning word in all of life as well.
Life goes on, even for us Cowboys fans. So here is to the upcoming 2025 season, whatever it brings. To each their own. For me, I will not live in misery over this.

 

[conner01]

What if Brian really is the right guy, with the help of Eberflus. Who many fans wanted to be promoted to DC and then HC.
Eberflus can bring a toughness to the defense. As he did in Indy and Chicago. That can help the offense and they need it.

All fans wanted a younger HC, that could relate to the players better. Be somewhat innovative. Not saying that Schotty is that person.
But he is not a retread coach that many did not want anyway (but yet they complain Jerry did not go after any of them). Yes other candidates were out there. This seemed rushed all of a sudden after what seemed like Jerry was dragging his feet about it all.

But who are we fans to say who would be better, though we think we know. Moore? What qualifies Ben Johnson over anyone else, other than he actually has called plays with success for Detroit. But HC material, none of us knows. Carroll, Zimmer, Chucky?

I am not a big fan of this move. I did not like the way the FO went about this. We known their failures for years now. We will see how serious they are come FA to see if they are willing to actually improve the roster. Or is all of this for nothing, again.

I know what the answers and posts will be. Same old stuff that has been repeated 100 times in every thread.

So fellow Zoner's, here is a challenge. Think outside of that box in your head, and think ... what if he can be innovative and was held back by MM ...

He wouldn’t have been my choice but he’s been a goid OC in the league. I would have been fine with him as OC if we had hired a defensive HC
But HC is so much more than X’s and O’s. Time will tell if he has the traits to be a good HC. I hope he does and can give us a good, playoff competitive team.
The risk is a lack of experience and I would have hired experience. But he does have talent on the offensive side. The key is can he be the leader of Jen because the HC job is so much more than an OC or DC gig

 

[Carson]

He wouldn’t have been my choice but he’s been a goid OC in the league. I would have been fine with him as OC if we had hired a defensive HC
But HC is so much more than X’s and O’s. Time will tell if he has the traits to be a good HC. I hope he does and can give us a good, playoff competitive team.
The risk is a lack of experience and I would have hired experience. But he does have talent on the offensive side. The key is can he be the leader of Jen because the HC job is so much more than an OC or DC gig

I don’t think the defense is bad overall.

I think there are a few elite players (Micah, Overshown), several great/good players (Diggs, Bland, Liafau). What they need to do is nail on DT and MLB

 

[Sheepherder]

Ive cooled off about the hate on this hiring. Granted, I still don’t like it.

But, this could work in the event of them hiring a guy like Eberflus to run the D and a guy like Lynn to run the offense.

If Schottenheimer steps back away from play calling it could work. He is a hard nosed tough guy and will hopefully clear up the penalties.

I hope you are right about the hard nose tough guy. Could be a positive thing around here.

 

[starfan1]

How did you feel, and this question goes to others as well.
When Jerry bought the team, and named Jimmy Johnson as HC?

I bet name were in an uproar and scratched their heads.

Well since my favorite college football team is the U I was pretty happy although I wasn’t enamored with how Landry got treated but once I got past that I loved the hire

 

[john van brocklin]

And just who would / should that coach be?

Would have thrown the bag at Belichick

 

[jazzcat22]

Would have thrown the bag at Belichick

He was not available.

 

[john van brocklin]

He was not available.

He had a buyout in his college contract for a NFL gig.

 

[jazzcat22]

He had a buyout in his college contract for a NFL gig.

Has that been proven. And if so, why did not any of the other 7 teams looking for a HC not buy that out? How much was it?
I know, it is the fans wanting to hate on everything still.

 

[Pipelayer72]

Many if not most are expecting Coach Schottenheimer to fail which isn't fair. Give the guy a chance. I believe today officially marks the Cowboys having the longest NFC championship drought. Moving in a new direction may be the answer but Jerry Jones has to be flexible and allow the coach to run the team. Don't see that ever happening unfortunately until there's new ownership. We shall see. I'm remaining optimistic and wishing Coach Schottenheimer the best in his new job.

 

[MikeT22]

How did you feel, and this question goes to others as well.
When Jerry bought the team, and named Jimmy Johnson as HC?

I bet name were in an uproar and scratched their heads.

Excited with Jimmy

 

[blueblood70]

He had a buyout in his college contract for a NFL gig.

It was more than just money, if you listen to everything that was being said, they already had too many connections, starting the staff, getting to house, starting to entrench themselves in the North Carolina area and the fiancé and wife came out and says we're a little bit too invested at this point of the process, that it's not reasonable think they would leave...

You do realize there's a two way Street to all this,​

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and by the way I like Bill Belichick when he didn't cost money and become a bit more difficult a challenge to get him, that he'd have waited to go to college ,and see how this worked out he said himself he would have been interested... but just like Deion Sanders who never truly was a candidate, no formal interview happened ,these guys did not want to leave their jobs and we want to throw out names like that got thrown out for ridiculous reasons Steve Sarkisian with the Texas Longhorns, but they gave him more money but there are no teams that were willing to wine dine flatter and overpay to buy out contracts when they didn't have that good a feeling..​

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so saying I throw the whole bag at him and other things no that's not true ,that's no guarantee he could have done much in the NFL....​

Not that I wouldn't have wanted him here, but not with these new conditions, I'm telling you that he wasn't really truly available it would've took a lot of butt kissing and begging to get guys like Deion Sanders and Bill Belichick to leave the current situations and like someone said it's absolutely true why did the other five teams or four other teams that were looking for head coaches out of the five vacancies put these guys on their list?

Let's stick to reality and facts ,most of those names being talked about were not entrenched as actual candidates they were a consideration they had a phone call same happened with Pete Carroll literally really wasn't being considered for the job??

I think the real reason for the phone call was to ask him what he thought of Brian Schottenheimer...

Pete Carroll was on my list, I would've taken him but here's the thing none of these hires are going to be proven to be better than Brian schottheimer until they prove it, everyone's gotta prove it with their current teams.. none of them are bringing in all the talent that they used to have none of them are goanna have the same coaching staff they're not going to have the same environment..

so not going to have the same support system, it's literally going to be different for every one of them and to me they're all on equal footing until they all prove who was the best hire and in 2020, the push back from Mike McCarthy now that we have all the information he was absolutely by far no one was even close to having the same success he was the best hire from 2020...

This is as bad as the rumor that Jason Witten was being forced on Mike McCarthy or whoever the new coach was gonna be it was a rumor started somewhere but it was never true just because Witten might be a future candidate for Jerry Jones he was not being forced on anyone and we know that because it doesn't seem like he's coming I mean I haven't heard from him I haven't heard any valid sources I mean most of everything that you've been reading was smoke but it wasn't fired...

I do believe that Robert Saleh,, frazier, and Kellen Moore were the only true candidates.

In my opinion Kellen Moore was the top guy but something happened in that day one interview with Schottenheimer and it got him a second interview and once Jerry was doing his research he moved on from Kellen Moore but I believe Kelly Moore wanted the job Jerry wanted to have this job and he was all set we get this job but since he wasn't available for a formal interview, Brian Schottenheimer got the job..

Sometimes it happens that way he did something said something his plans the people who were supporting him in the building like players and all the interviews of his former peers gave him great feedback Jerry was convinced it was probably the better move over Kellen Moore...

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Excited with Jimmy

I was too. I hated the way Landry was treated but Jimmy was a big name at the time. There was hope for the future. And by the 1990 season you could already see it started to pay off.

 

[MikeT22]

He was not available.

Wouldve never been a real option

 

[jazzcat22]

Wouldve never been a real option

And that was ok. I did not want him as a HC anyway.