What next for the Mavericks?

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baj1dallas;4621238 said:
They don't need flexibility. They're a contender right now.

No, they are not a contender. Adding Joe Johnson does not make you go from one of the worst teams in the NBA to contender.

22-44 last season. :laugh2:
 

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they are a playoff contender, and maybe a first round home court contender, but thats about it. they will be about as good as the pacers were last year, at best.
 

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juck;4620905 said:
I bet he is surprised.lol. Thing is the kid wanted the glitz and glamour. O well.

he wasnt about the glitz and glamour. he simply didnt trust our plan.
the reason he liked us is he preferred to live and raise his kids in dallas.
but he didn't trust the plan. he was scared dirk was leaving in 2 years and he'd have zero help. he saw the nets go well over the cap for the foreseeable future and laugh at the luxury tax.

they had haywood on the radio before dwill's decision and he basically said with joe johnson and wallace thats a salty group. there was also a constant buzz that DH was going to the Nets and only Nets over his dead body. ---see my points above about nets leaks

did DWill get bamboozled? maybe. will he regret his decision? i think so.

can i hate the guy. no. i know he is a humble star and family man. not an idiot. he isnt getting arrested. the guy is playing golf on his vacations not boozing and womanizing.
 
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Mavs have a good, solid team.

Darren Collison/Delonte West
Vince Carter/OJ Mayo
Shawn Marion/Dahntay Jones
Dirk Nowitzki/Elton Brand
Chris Kaman/Brandon Wright

They'll most likely let West walk and make Roddy B. the backup PG.
 

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MC KAos;4621347 said:
they are a playoff contender, and maybe a first round home court contender, but thats about it. they will be about as good as the pacers were last year, at best.

they are definitely not a favorite in the east right now.
they only have 10 players under contract.

roster is very shallow. i think they are a .500 team... if DWill/Lopez are healthy all year.
 

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Cowboys&LakersFan;4622199 said:
Mavs have a good, solid team.

Darren Collison/Delonte West
Vince Carter/OJ Mayo
Shawn Marion/Dahntay Jones
Dirk Nowitzki/Elton Brand
Chris Kaman/Brandon Wright

They'll most likely let West walk and make Roddy B. the backup PG.

It's possible the Mayo signing was a SnT. I expect Dallas to use their $2.5 mil exception on Delonte. Maybe we shipped out Roddy to Memphis. Just a guess.
 

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Cowboys&LakersFan;4622199 said:
Mavs have a good, solid team.

Darren Collison/Delonte West
Vince Carter/OJ Mayo
Shawn Marion/Dahntay Jones
Dirk Nowitzki/Elton Brand
Chris Kaman/Brandon Wright

They'll most likely let West walk and make Roddy B. the backup PG.

IMO West is signed for the SME by tomorrow. He is still in Dallas and knew that offer was coming once they used all their cap space.

Donnie stated after Brand they'd shoot for a "shooter". That's Mayo.

Roddy B is trade bait. Folks in the Dallas front office do not think of him as a PG. He is Collison with less PG experience.

West is a backup 1 and 2 who can actually play defense.
 

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jterrell;4622214 said:
IMO West is signed for the SME by tomorrow. He is still in Dallas and knew that offer was coming once they used all their cap space.

Donnie stated after Brand they'd shoot for a "shooter". That's Mayo.

Roddy B is trade bait. Folks in the Dallas front office do not think of him as a PG. He is Collison with less PG experience.

West is a backup 1 and 2 who can actually play defense.

I agree. Although Roddy is a very good defender actually. Should look something like this. I expect Dojo or Roddy to be gone though.

Collison/West/Cunningham/Roddy
Mayo/West/Carter/Jones/Jones
Marion/Carter
Dirk/Brand/Wright/Crowder
Kaman/Brand/Wright
 

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RastaRocket;4622211 said:
It's possible the Mayo signing was a SnT. I expect Dallas to use their $2.5 mil exception on Delonte. Maybe we shipped out Roddy to Memphis. Just a guess.

Also note JET hasnt signed with Boston. The Celts badly want that to be a S&T. Now that we have Mayo we have no reason not to assist the Celts.

Could see a 3 team deal with Memphis, Dallas, Boston. Or any odd mix of the above. Jet didn't hold off signing for nothing.

This was all a process. Everything has fallen perfectly for Dallas after the initial bodyblow by DWill. Mavs have played cards perfectly and may well end up with some additional rewards out of this Celts trade.

Could see any of our bottom guys move for cap relief and also see a 2nd round pick come back from the Celts.
 

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RastaRocket;4622215 said:
I agree. Although Roddy is a very good defender actually. Should look something like this. I expect Dojo or Roddy to be gone though.

Collison/West/Cunningham/Roddy
Mayo/West/Carter/Jones/Jones
Marion/Carter
Dirk/Brand/Wright/Crowder
Kaman/Brand/Wright

Roddy drew fouls at an alarming rate at times.
He is a better defender than Collison though.

PG: Collison/West
SG: Mayo/Jones
SF: Marion/VC
PF: Dirk/Brand
C: Kaman/Brand

I think that is the 9 man rotation if healthy.

10-12: Wright(4/5), Jared(1/2), Crowder(3/4)
13-15: James(4/5), Dojo(1/2), (Cardinal??/4/designated fouler)

Might see West start at PG for more defense actually. Also Coop suggests Jones could start at PG but play D-Steve like mins ~17. Could also see Dallas start Brand over Kaman for defense.

Lots of fun stuff to play around with there. Wish I had nba 2k12 actually, lol.
 

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It could definitely be a 3 team deal.

I already have a team in 2k with all the trades haha.
 

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RastaRocket;4622235 said:
It could definitely be a 3 team deal.

I already have a team in 2k with all the trades haha.

bah, jealous....

apparently mayo deal is just 4.5m no s&t but still a possible s&t with boston for jet. think dallas is right at cap now but well below payout level. just need to stay below payout level so could theoretically add salary for just this year under their plan.
 

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RastaRocket;4622235 said:
It could definitely be a 3 team deal.

I already have a team in 2k with all the trades haha.

Same here dude lol
 

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jterrell;4622230 said:
Roddy drew fouls at an alarming rate at times.
He is a better defender than Collison though.

Roddy is only a good defender when he remembers to try to be, which is about 40% of the time he's on the court..
 

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baj1dallas;4622272 said:
Roddy is only a good defender when he remembers to try to be, which is about 40% of the time he's on the court..

He just needs confidence because that guy has an incredible skill set.
 

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jterrell;4622250 said:
bah, jealous....

apparently mayo deal is just 4.5m no s&t but still a possible s&t with boston for jet. think dallas is right at cap now but well below payout level. just need to stay below payout level so could theoretically add salary for just this year under their plan.

No need for a SnT OJ was a free agent
 

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Yeagermeister;4622394 said:
No need for a SnT OJ was a free agent

hope was s&t for jet not really mayo.

mayo s&t could have taken some of the low end contracts off the roster freeing up more cap space.

looks like no s&t's at all. in the end cubes was right.... cap space is king.

he put together a full roster with cap space. intriguing team to be sure.
 

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Wow woke up to us signing Mayo on a 1 year deal for 4.5. very nice. Also we have the 2.75 mle for West. All of a sudden mavs are looking very strong.
 

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juck;4622443 said:
Wow woke up to us signing Mayo on a 1 year deal for 4.5. very nice. Also we have the 2.75 mle for West. All of a sudden mavs are looking very strong.

Yeah. I don't know if the 3 ball will be falling in Dallas as much but we got depth and we got defense.
 
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