Which QBs would you rather have instead of Tony Romo?

[Apollo Creed]

I dont hate on Tony. I just point out facts that homers overlook just because he is wearing the Star. I see beyond my allegiances and my Romo jersey. Fans say he is the next big thing, but he is not. Almost 30 with no playoff wins. Too late and too hollywood for me. Your QB shouldnt be hollywood and he SHOULD be a leader.

Not intimidated to speak up is what need on this team from the QB postion.

Your boring rhetoric is far from 'facts'.

He is shattering all Cowboy passing records. He has taken us from a very mediocre team to suddenly we're expecting to represent the NFC each year. Does your dumb *** not remember Drew Bledsoe? Did you not see our team with Brad Johnson and Brooks Bollinger this year?

Factor in injuries to his line, himself, a new WR getting aclimated with the playbook, a rookie RB behind him, and 4 of the best 5 defenses in football down the stretch. Tony Romo still put us in a position to make the playoffs. Thats a fact. For every Pitsburgh game where he played poorly, there is the Washington game when he played great. He struggled with Baltimore's great defense (our defense lost that game btw), but beat the Giants in a must win game at home.

You are stupid. Brady Quinn hasn't won a playoff game either and he was a first round pick, Romo was passed up on 253 times. Seems like you've got your expectations and your priorities all mixed up.

 

[SkinsFan28]

Jason Campbell!

LOL I so want football season to start!

 

[Alexander]

I can't believe Cowboys fans would hate on Romo to begin with.

Dear Lord,

Please find a way to wipe the pop culture reference "hate" from the fanbase lexicon so we do not have to be subjected to the word's continual and excessive misuse.

Amen.

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

Your boring rhetoric is far from 'facts'.

He is shattering all Cowboy passing records. He has taken us from a very mediocre team to suddenly we're expecting to represent the NFC each year. Does your dumb *** not remember Drew Bledsoe? Did you not see our team with Brad Johnson and Brooks Bollinger this year?

Factor in injuries to his line, himself, a new WR getting aclimated with the playbook, a rookie RB behind him, and 4 of the best 5 defenses in football down the stretch. Tony Romo still put us in a position to make the playoffs. Thats a fact. For every Pitsburgh game where he played poorly, there is the Washington game when he played great. He struggled with Baltimore's great defense (our defense lost that game btw), but beat the Giants in a must win game at home.

You are stupid. Brady Quinn hasn't won a playoff game either and he was a first round pick, Romo was passed up on 253 times. Seems like you've got your expectations and your priorities all mixed up.

Tony and his carelessness with the ball in the pocket is what will keep this team from being a serious contendor. For all of his "wow" plays that are the result of no blocking, he will fumble the ball away or throw an errant throw to cost us the game.

Sounds like you are content with his numbers and not the end result. He looks like a whipped dog when he loses and hangs his head more than Eli Manning (which I didnt think was possible). And Quinn hasnt had a chance yet. Ill take Brady in year 4 over Tony in year 4 any day of the week. Quinn is a leader of men. Romo is a boy , playing a mans game.

Im not saying Drew or Bollinger would be better. They sucked. But they both werent't supposed to be the QB of the future and paid 69 million dollars to do so. Everyone can be happy that "our guy" is going to win 10 games and sneak in the playoffs. I am not content with that. Tony is a mobile Marc Bulger. And thats not going to win Superbowls.

 

[Alexander]

And Quinn hasnt had a chance yet. Ill take Brady in year 4 over Tony in year 4 any day of the week. Quinn is a leader of men. Romo is a boy , playing a mans game.

I haven't seen much from Quinn at all. To me, he's a shined up Rick Mirer until he proves it. I don't get how you can demonstrate that he's a "leader of men" when he hasn't even convincingly knocked Anderson out of the way in Cleveland.

Besides, he seems more like a holder of men, than a leader:

http://cache.********.com/assets/resources/2007/05/yipesbrady.jpg

 

[Apollo Creed]

I haven't seen much from Quinn at all. To me, he's a shined up Rick Mirer until he proves it. I don't get how you can demonstrate that he's a "leader of men" when he hasn't even convincingly knocked Anderson out of the way in Cleveland.

Besides, he seems more like a holder of men, than a leader:

http://cache.********.com/assets/resources/2007/05/yipesbrady.jpg

Is that real?

 

[McCordsville Cowboy]

I haven't seen much from Quinn at all. To me, he's a shined up Rick Mirer until he proves it. I don't get how you can demonstrate that he's a "leader of men" when he hasn't even convincingly knocked Anderson out of the way in Cleveland.

Besides, he seems more like a holder of men, than a leader:

http://cache.********.com/assets/resources/2007/05/yipesbrady.jpg

Nice....

Im sure if I googled u in your teens , you might be doing something comparable

 

[Apollo Creed]

Nice....

Im sure if I googled u in your teens , you might be doing something comparable

Not. even. close.

 

[Hostile]

Not. even. close.

Co-sign.

 

[zrinkill]

And Quinn hasnt had a chance yet. Ill take Brady in year 4 over Tony in year 4 any day of the week. Quinn is a leader of men. Romo is a boy , playing a mans game.

This homoerotic fascination you have with Quinn is creepy ..... even for an eagles fan.

 

[Idgit]

If some of you think I have an agenda to hate on Romo than what does this guy have?

Ohh! I know. The mental capacity of a 9 year old.

What'd I win?

 

[Idgit]

Jason Campbell!

LOL I so want football season to start!

This might be the saddest thing I've ever read on this board.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Well the obvious answers would be Brady and Manning. So everyone could say that.

The only one I'd take, right now, across the board for Romo (Given age and everything else) would be Phillip Rivers. I'd take him in a heartbeat over Romo.

 

[Yakuza Rich]

I'd take the following over Romo:

Brady
Roethlisberger
Peyton
Rivers - protects the ball better
Brees


I'd consider:

Matt Ryan
Jay Cutler
Carson Palmer

Part of the issue is trying to decide how these QB's would do in different circumstances. I think Brady would probably be a tad worse in Dallas with a media who is far more anti-Dallas, unlike in Boston where they are pro-NE. Same with Roethlisberger who did get helped out a lot by the Steelers' fantastic defense. He protects the ball better than Tony IMO, but he was more or less a QB that kept the Steelers in games last year and then pulled out some dramatic stuff. If with our defense (which I think has a lot of potential, but not on the Steelers level), he may just be another decent starter.

OTOH, I think Cutler could possibly be deadly in Dallas and the same with Carson Palmer.

Of course I believe all of it is a moot point if Romo can start protecting the ball and avoid those 'double bogey' performances.




YAKUZA

 

[Doomsday101]

I like Romo...but with this statement you are assuming that either or both of those player would not have rings if they were in Dallas. We for sure do not know that would be the case. This team QB's by Brees in 2007 very well could have had a ring for all we know.

You don't that they would have rings by the same token. One thing we can go by is their play and Romo play is as good as both of these players his numbers rank with the top QB's in the NFL he has broken records of HOF QB's who have played in Dallas. Yes he has no ring but then again Rings are team accomplishment not individual accomplishments. No QB has ever won a SB without a great team behind him and thus far this team at many positions have failed in crunch time it has not been Romo alone

 

[bysbox1]

Tony is a mobile Marc Bulger. And thats not going to win Superbowls.

I hate to say it, but that is true.

Now I think Tony has the physical tools . . . could he get us to the SB, I think he could.

I just wish that instead of learning how to shuffle his feet in the pocket like Tom Brady he would talk to someone like Troy Aikman to learn and understand the mental part of the game. If Romo does not get thiat part down, then he's not going to go anywhere. Unfortunately, he's not going to get that from this existing coaching staff, so Romo's going to have to find someone to learn that for himself, or learn it from within.

That being said (and to stay on topic) I would take Rivers, Peyton Manning, Brady, Brees.

While I like Rotheliserger, I think he is more a product of the system they have in Pittsburgh. And I know I will get flamed for this, but I like McNabb too. He's on the wrong side of 30 and I know he plays for the enemy, but the guy just knows how to win ball games when you need him to.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Rivers over Romo??? Not a chance! I still don't see why everybody thinks he's that good. He was good in college, but his consistency in the NFL is suspect.

LOL! Right. Thanks for making it obvious that you don't watch him play.

Rivers is a darn good QB. I really like him coming out of College.

But MAN he is so overrated at this level..

People even have him top 5.

The only way anyone would take Rivers over Romo if you have watched both of them play is if you absolutely HATE Tony Romo.

Wrong. I love Tony. I think he's great. Rivers is just better. He does more with far less talent around him than Tony has had and he wins late season games and playoff games. Right now I'd take Phillip Rivers over Tony Romo. Should Tony ever win some playoff games maybe I'd change my mind, but I doubt it, because Rivers is my favorite QB in the league right now.

Try watching him play once in a while, you might understand why people think he's all that.

You must not have seen him play much last year because all he did was lead the league in: TD passes, TD%, Yards per attempt, and passer rating.

Including the playoffs, he had 11 games of over 100 passer rating last season! One of those was in the playoff game against the eventual SB champ Stealers.

He was just better than 3-1 in TD-INT ratio (34-11) but only had 5 300+ yard games. That means he is efficient and isn't simply putting up big numbers because he throws the ball a lot (like Brees).

The draft morons dogged him because of his throwing motion and they stated that he could not succeed in the NFL with it and the mediots have simply bought into that and others have bought into their opinions. The FACTS are that he has been very consistent and consistently good at that.

Since he has been the starter in San Diego he has been very good and last year, even though the team struggled, he was great! 2007 was his only "down" year so far and that wasn't bad by any measure.

Excellent post that perfectly outlines exactly why Rivers is up there on many people's lists.

Manning would have choked T.O. after the fifth drop.

Manning would have had him benched after the third time he quit on a route, didn't run the right route, or pissed and moaned in the huddle and/or after game media session about not getting 98% of the balls thrown his way.

I'd trade you FOUR tony romos for ONE Matt Ryan.

LOL. Completely lost all credibility with this one exaggeration.

I see one team made it into the playoffs, and one team didn't.

I have also seen 3 straight decembers of poor QB play.

Interesting how you fail to mention that Ryan's team got to the playoffs on the back of his TEAM carrying him down the stretch. What was Tony's team doing for him down the stretch the last few years? Oh that's right...not showing up.

Brad Johnson > Tony Romo

Matt Ryan in the Rams win (last game of season): 10/21 (47%), 160 yards, 1 TD, 2 INTs. A whopping 49.8 QB rating.

So how did they win?

M. Turner: 208 yards rushing, 1 TD.
J. Norwood: 56 yards rushing, 2 TD.

Yay for Matt Ryan winning in December!!!!111

LOL! BOOM! Right in the face with stone cold facts. I guess we should quickly try and trade Barber, Jones, and Choice for Turner and Norwood!

In the win over the Vikings (second to last game of the season), guess who had more yards and a better QB rating -- Matt Ryan or Tavaris Jackson?

Tavaris Jackson, FTW!

Guess who fumbled while scrambling at the goal line, but was lucky enough to have his own teammate pick it up and run for a game winning touchdown?

Matt Ryan, FTW!

So, in other words, two of their three late season wins were in spite of Ryan, not because of him. Anybody who picks Ryan is clueless at this point.

And another perfectly placed shot right to the face of this idiotic statement. Great job Theo.

If some of you think I have an agenda to hate on Romo than what does this guy have?

A partially functional brain.

 

[Apollo Creed]

I hate to say it, but that is true.

Now I think Tony has the physical tools . . . could he get us to the SB, I think he could.

I just wish that instead of learning how to shuffle his feet in the pocket like Tom Brady he would talk to someone like Troy Aikman to learn and understand the mental part of the game. If Romo does not get thiat part down, then he's not going to go anywhere. Unfortunately, he's not going to get that from this existing coaching staff, so Romo's going to have to find someone to learn that for himself, or learn it from within.

That being said (and to stay on topic) I would take Rivers, Peyton Manning, Brady, Matt Ryan, Brees.

While I like Rotheliserger, I think he is more a product of the system they have in Pittsburgh. And I know I will get flamed for this, but I like McNabb too. He's on the wrong side of 30 and I know he plays for the enemy but the guy just knows how to win ball games when you need him to.

The hell he does.

Three consecutive NFC championship games ended with him throwing the ball to the other team. His team had opportunities to win all three of these games as well.

A Super Bowl ended with him puking away one of Terrell Owens' only great post season performances.

Yet they keep rewarding him with more money.

 

[Apollo Creed]

You can take any pure pocket QB you want and they will not suceed in Dallas.

Big Ben, Flaco, Cutler, Rivers, Ryan, even the great Tom Brady would still be protected by the same inconsistent unit that Romo has been struggling with.

I think we have severely overated our offensive line.

 

[bysbox1]

I'd take the following over Romo:

Brady
Roethlisberger
Peyton
Rivers - protects the ball better
Brees


I'd consider:

Matt Ryan
Jay Cutler
Carson Palmer

Part of the issue is trying to decide how these QB's would do in different circumstances. I think Brady would probably be a tad worse in Dallas with a media who is far more anti-Dallas, unlike in Boston where they are pro-NE. Same with Roethlisberger who did get helped out a lot by the Steelers' fantastic defense. He protects the ball better than Tony IMO, but he was more or less a QB that kept the Steelers in games last year and then pulled out some dramatic stuff. If with our defense (which I think has a lot of potential, but not on the Steelers level), he may just be another decent starter.

OTOH, I think Cutler could possibly be deadly in Dallas and the same with Carson Palmer.

Of course I believe all of it is a moot point if Romo can start protecting the ball and avoid those 'double bogey' performances.




YAKUZA

Palmer is an interesting one. I like his leadership skills and his physical tools. I never really like Jay but he has a killer arm. I think their teams hold them back a lot.

With the right coaching staff, Palmer and Cutler would be deadly here. But I just went with QB's that had I thought had all the tools now and did not require "coaching up." We don't have the right coaching staff to coach up.