Who here believes Jerry wants to keep Jason?

"Truth" is an interesting choice of words here.

I see more 'wants' than 'truths'.

Jerry wants Garrett to succeed, all evidence to the contrary.

Jerry wants to be 'right' doing it 'his way', all results to the contrary.

And people want Garrett to be the next Tom Landry, all evidence to the contrary.

'Truth' is 8-8, 8-8, and 8-7.

That's as real and as truthful as it gets.

For all the 'process', 'culture', 'climate', or 'never quit' rhetoric, the absolute and undeniable 'truth' is that none of it results in wins.

After three plus seasons, the wins haven't happened.

That's the inconvenient 'truth' that no one can deny.

Everything else is just talk.


now this is "truth" and fact, not distraction or believe
 
Remember last offseason when Jerry did everything in his powers to make Jason quit and now it seems like he has fallen back in love with his pet. What is the deal here? Is Jerry really this crazy or should we not believe all this Garrett love from Jerry? Once again I can't make any sense of Jerry just as I can't make any sense of his comments where he seems to contradict himself almost every time.

Where do people come up with this stuff. And why?
 
But the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.
I have decided to use this quote to answer that tired dogma every time it is shared ad nauseum.

"Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority." --Vince Lombardi

Forgive me for thinking Lombardi knew more about building a football team than Einstein (If he actually said that quote, which he denies.)
 
If you say so. I assume you need to believe this and want no further discussion from me.

I wouldn't bring up stubbornness if I were you.

I can face the fact that there are no results.

I can reasonably discuss this topic all day long, and give facts to support my stance.

One need look no further than the fact that Garrett and his process has produced no successful results.

8-8, 8-8, and 8-7 is all that need be said.

And when Joe Buck can out coach him on game day, it's obvious that he hasn't learned either.
 
Players "like" Jason Garrett. Nothing more subjective then that as evidence of his great coaching ability. Players liked Wade too, including psycho-crazy ones that normally don't like anyone,I.e. Ratliff. At least Wade had 2 division titles, 2 playoff appearances and a playoff win.
 
Hos,

I respect your opnion and support of Garrett but Campo had no talent to speak of and I knew we were not contenders. I can accept the obvious. This Team has talent but the Man in Charge has no talent to speak of. We also play in the NFC Least right now so we have a chance for the division every year no matter if Dumbo was our HC.

I'll just say this, I can't stand Campo. Never could. But if he had the injuries we have had the last 2 years, I probably would think firing him was not fair. I don't believe Jimmy Johnson could win with this many critical players hurt.
 
I have decided to use this quote to answer that tired dogma every time it is shared ad nauseum.

"Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority." --Vince Lombardi

Forgive me for thinking Lombardi knew more about building a football team than Einstein (If he actually said that quote, which he denies.)

Again, more great quotes and rhetoric, all the while with no tangible results.

I can bring up hundreds of inspiring quotes from knowledgable, accomplished people. But it doesn't make me any more accomplished or knowledgable.

With no results, they're merely words.
 
I wouldn't bring up stubbornness if I were you.
I don't remember saying anything about stubbornness, and if I did it was without even thinking it, because until I read the word in your post I had not thought about it at all.
 
Again, more great quotes and rhetoric, all the while with no tangible results.

I can bring up hundreds of inspiring quotes from knowledgable, accomplished people. But it doesn't make me any more accomplished or knowledgable.

With no results, they're merely words.

It is a great quote. I agree.
 
If Romo leaves it will be because of his back, yes, but also because he does not want a new coach. He'd fight through the back for Garrett. He's that kind of guy. Witten is going to go into the Hall of Fame. I promise you he is going to ask Garrett to introduce him. Sean Lee likes Garrett more than he did Paterno. Ware will fight through just like Tony, but I think he'd simply walk away due to injuries as well. Have you ehard Dez Bryant talk about how Garrett is the reason for the change in him? This stuff should matter to Cowboys fans, in my opinion. If it doesn't, I have no business being someone you ask about anything because these are the things upon which I base my opinions. I value the thoughts of the team over the dust kicked up by the media and the coughing that causes among the fans.

If Romo has to "fight" through it, I seriously doubt we will be better off for it. Some people make 100% recoveries from back surgeries and I really hope he does. I do not think he would use that as an excuse to leave just because we change coaches. You are also making a huge assumption that none of these guys will like a new regime. They may actually like a new coach better.
 
If Romo "fights" through it, I seriously doubt we will be better off. Some people make 100% recoveries from back surgeries and I really hope he does. I do not think he would use that as an excuse to leave just because we change coaches. You are also making a huge assumption that none of these guys will like a new regime. They may actually like a new coach better.
Some of them may. Most of them won't. Have you ever noted how Landry's players revered him outside of football too? That is happening here. You can choose to ignore that if you wish.

Ya'll be good today. I need to go buy my patient and lovely bride a birthday gift. A flat screen TV with Internet capability for the bedroom sounds wonderful to me. After that I expect to get lucky, so I will be having a good day.

Go Cowboys.
 
Some of them may. Most of them won't. Have you ever noted how Landry's players revered him outside of football too? That is happening here. You can choose to ignore that if you wish.

Ya'll be good today. I need to go buy my patient and lovely bride a birthday gift. A flat screen TV with Internet capability for the bedroom sounds wonderful to me. After that I expect to get lucky, so I will be having a good day.

Go Cowboys.

Have a good day and tell your wife happy birthday for me!!!! Peace!!!!:)
 
If Romo leaves it will be because of his back, yes, but also because he does not want a new coach. He'd fight through the back for Garrett. He's that kind of guy. Witten is going to go into the Hall of Fame. I promise you he is going to ask Garrett to introduce him. Sean Lee likes Garrett more than he did Paterno. Ware will fight through just like Tony, but I think he'd simply walk away due to injuries as well. Have you ehard Dez Bryant talk about how Garrett is the reason for the change in him? This stuff should matter to Cowboys fans, in my opinion. If it doesn't, I have no business being someone you ask about anything because these are the things upon which I base my opinions. I value the thoughts of the team over the dust kicked up by the media and the coughing that causes among the fans.

So the players are completely behind Garrett and we're still continuing to be mediocre?! I think a lot of us were hoping that Garrett was the one holding us back. I think I'm going to be sick now :eek:
 
I don't remember saying anything about stubbornness, and if I did it was without even thinking it, because until I read the word in your post I had not thought about it at all.

Garrett hasn't learned.If you say so. I assume you need to believe this and want no further discussion from me.

When I read this, it gave me the impression you were saying I was stubborn or close-minded.

My bad if that was not the case.
 
Players "like" Jason Garrett. Nothing more subjective then that as evidence of his great coaching ability. Players liked Wade too, including psycho-crazy ones that normally don't like anyone,I.e. Ratliff. At least Wade had 2 division titles, 2 playoff appearances and a playoff win.

I would take the fact that the players "liked" Garrett as a positive if it were some sort of prerequisite for a successful football coach.

Plain and simple, it isn't.
 
I'm sure this will be said somewhere in the 5 preceding pages but if Garrett stays there is one reason...Jerry would rather be right than admit he's wrong. Plain and simple. He is just messed up. This is where I miss old Jerry. He'd fire the coach, go get a TO type guy and try anything. Now he thinks patience with subpar players and coaches makes him smart and it just backfires.
 
I would take the fact that the players "liked" Garrett as a positive if it were some sort of prerequisite for a successful football coach.

Plain and simple, it isn't.

If that were the case Wade would be the champion every year! Who couldn't like Wade? ;)
 
I'm sure this will be said somewhere in the 5 preceding pages but if Garrett stays there is one reason...Jerry would rather be right than admit he's wrong. Plain and simple. He is just messed up. This is where I miss old Jerry. He'd fire the coach, go get a TO type guy and try anything. Now he thinks patience with subpar players and coaches makes him smart and it just backfires.

Jerry would get all the praise in the world from me if he gets well respected football guys and works with them. I'm not asking him to cede involvement, but man, involve yourself with the best minds in the game and absorb from them. Not Lacewell, Jim Garrett and Red Head.
 
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