Who hits the hardest? Sean Taylor or Roy Williams

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I laugh every time I see that play. That and the one when Roy makes Jeff Garcia bounce face-first off the turf.
 
TEK2000 said:
ALSO, I have yet to see a good hit on Terrell Owens by Sean Taylor. I've seen 2 and they were cheap shots.. 1 pushing him while he was out of bounds and the other with ST throwing his elbow into TO's face mask after the play was apparently over.


Yeah, Taylor hits TO WAY out of bounds in this video. Why it wasn't called a late hit is beyond me. It is one of his highlight videos that Commanders fans have made.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HbRKVCtcTI&search=

It isn't even a big hit. Just a late hit out of bounds. You won't even find any Roy videos like that, because Dallas fans don't consider that to be a big hit or even anything positive at all.

This one is very similar and although not quite as late... still is late... and nothing to write home to Mom about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yb0okfNMug&search=


This is a video of Taylor trying to tackle Witten. Why a Commander fan even made this vid is debatable because it makes Taylor look bad. Witten just runs out of his grasp. If it wasn't for other players, Witten would still be running.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxNpJe8HkWo&search=

 
TEK2000 said:
The RW video shows Roy trying to be blocked by Todd Pinkston and Pinkston winds up on the ground (yeah... Pinkston is routinely ...

Pinkston didn't just wind up on the ground. He went skidding across it.
 
I'm not brothering to read through this whole thread.
How can you tell who really hit harder though? Seems to me the logic way to do this is to tkae test subjects and let sean taylor and roy william hit them. then ask them who hit harder.
 
cowboywho? said:
I'm not brothering to read through this whole thread.
How can you tell who really hit harder though? Seems to me the logic way to do this is to tkae test subjects and let sean taylor and roy william hit them. then ask them who hit harder.
You volunteering?
 
Lets ask Emmitt Smith who hit him the hardest, that was a pretty viscious hit Roy laid on him.
 
watch roy's highlight real vs sean "jailbreak" taylor's and roy's is much better, love me some good hits
 
Roy is the hardest hitter, not only on Dallas, but in the league as well. tayler is a great hitter but not better than Roy
 
(This is ridiculous. You guys say to look at highlights of Williams and Taylor and see who hits harder. Well I keep looking and I keep coming to the same conclusion. Taylor DEFINITELY hits harder than Roy.

Look, I'm not saying Roy isn't a hard hitter, he most definitetly is. He is a lb more than a safety(cant cover and if you think he can then you dont know what you're talking about!). Most of the 'devastating' hits Williams makes are illegal and/or horse-collar tackles! For example, the hit that injured TO was a horse collar tackle. Was it impressive? No. Roy Williams is a big guy. When you horse-collar somoene, you use your weight to take them down. Another example is the hit on Coles you guys love to brag about. IT WAS ILLEGAL!!!!!!!!!!! The NFL fined him for that hit(helmet-to-helmet). You can say Taylor spits on people or whatever(which is stupid and irrevelant) but he doesnt horse-collar and helmet-to-helmet intentionally and on a regular basis like RW.

And Taylor has taken many runners one-on-one and pushed them backwards. Priest Holmes, that big GOAL LINE specialist RB the Vikings had, Lamont Jordan, Ryan Moats, Marcel Shipp to name a few. Not to mention the receivers, FBs, and TEs(Gates included) that he has taken down one-on-one.

No, I'm not a homer. I dont think that every player on the Skins is better than Cowboys players. RW does things better than Taylor, too. RW has solid technique and he is rarely out of position. Those are two things Sean Taylor has yet to master. Taylor takes a lot of bad angles and is out of position. He is improving though.

ST was a top 5 pick and RW was top 10. Safetys rarely go in the top 10, especially top 5. ST had character issues coming out of college. Any player who has that automatically drops down the draft. Jimmy Williams, who is probably the best talented CB in this year's entire draft(preseason top 10 pick), fell into the mid-2nd round because of his character. ST was so good that a guy like Gibbs(who RARELY takes a chance on guys with character issues) spent a top 5 pick on him.

Also, if you watched this year's draft coverage on ESPN, they were comparing all the Safetys to Sean Taylor, not Roy Williams. :)
 
yazzmode621 said:
(This is ridiculous. You guys say to look at highlights of Williams and Taylor and see who hits harder. Well I keep looking and I keep coming to the same conclusion. Taylor DEFINITELY hits harder than Roy.

You should try and watch without the burgandy and gold glasses


Look, I'm not saying Roy isn't a hard hitter, he most definitetly is. He is a lb more than a safety(cant cover and if you think he can then you dont know what you're talking about!).
Actually he covers ok for his position (SS) He is not great but is average there


Most of the 'devastating' hits Williams makes are illegal and/or horse-collar tackles!

LMAO, you do realize the Horse collar was not illegal until Roy started breaking guys with it right?


You can say Taylor spits on people or whatever(which is stupid and irrevelant)

He does thats why it is said.


but he doesnt horse-collar and helmet-to-helmet intentionally and on a regular basis like RW.
Since it was made illegal Roy has not been flagged for horse collaring once. As for intentionally hitting helmet to helmet get out of here with that bull****

And Taylor has taken many runners one-on-one and pushed them backwards. Priest Holmes, that big GOAL LINE specialist RB the Vikings had, Lamont Jordan, Ryan Moats, Marcel Shipp to name a few. Not to mention the receivers, FBs, and TEs(Gates included) that he has taken down one-on-one.

and unfortunately he is STILL not as hard a hitter as Roy.

No, I'm not a homer.
Yes you are


I dont think that every player on the Skins is better than Cowboys players.

Ok List what Cowboys are better than Skins players



RW does things better than Taylor, too. RW has solid technique and he is rarely out of position. Those are two things Sean Taylor has yet to master. Taylor takes a lot of bad angles and is out of position. He is improving though.

Hitting is one of the things he does better. The only advantage Taylor has over Williams is coverage and Taylor is above average there. Everywhere else Roy > Taylor

Gibbs(who RARELY takes a chance on guys with character issues) spent a top 5 pick on him.
That was his mistake, The talent is there. The head isn't

Also, if you watched this year's draft coverage on ESPN, they were comparing all the Safetys to Sean Taylor, not Roy Williams. :)

Because none were comparible to Roy so they took the lesser talented safety :)
 
yazzmode621 said:
(This is ridiculous. You guys say to look at highlights of Williams and Taylor and see who hits harder. Well I keep looking and I keep coming to the same conclusion. Taylor DEFINITELY hits harder than Roy.

Look, I'm not saying Roy isn't a hard hitter, he most definitetly is. He is a lb more than a safety(cant cover and if you think he can then you dont know what you're talking about!). Most of the 'devastating' hits Williams makes are illegal and/or horse-collar tackles! For example, the hit that injured TO was a horse collar tackle. Was it impressive? No. Roy Williams is a big guy. When you horse-collar somoene, you use your weight to take them down. Another example is the hit on Coles you guys love to brag about. IT WAS ILLEGAL!!!!!!!!!!! The NFL fined him for that hit(helmet-to-helmet). You can say Taylor spits on people or whatever(which is stupid and irrevelant) but he doesnt horse-collar and helmet-to-helmet intentionally and on a regular basis like RW.

And Taylor has taken many runners one-on-one and pushed them backwards. Priest Holmes, that big GOAL LINE specialist RB the Vikings had, Lamont Jordan, Ryan Moats, Marcel Shipp to name a few. Not to mention the receivers, FBs, and TEs(Gates included) that he has taken down one-on-one.

No, I'm not a homer. I dont think that every player on the Skins is better than Cowboys players. RW does things better than Taylor, too. RW has solid technique and he is rarely out of position. Those are two things Sean Taylor has yet to master. Taylor takes a lot of bad angles and is out of position. He is improving though.

ST was a top 5 pick and RW was top 10. Safetys rarely go in the top 10, especially top 5. ST had character issues coming out of college. Any player who has that automatically drops down the draft. Jimmy Williams, who is probably the best talented CB in this year's entire draft(preseason top 10 pick), fell into the mid-2nd round because of his character. ST was so good that a guy like Gibbs(who RARELY takes a chance on guys with character issues) spent a top 5 pick on him.

Also, if you watched this year's draft coverage on ESPN, they were comparing all the Safetys to Sean Taylor, not Roy Williams. :)

I'm just curious but did you read my post on the previous page and take a look at the videos posted?

Also, NO ONE has said ANYTHING about dragging TO down from behind being a "big hit". That's just IDIOTIC!
 
yazzmode621 said:
(This is ridiculous. You guys say to look at highlights of Williams and Taylor and see who hits harder. Well I keep looking and I keep coming to the same conclusion. Taylor DEFINITELY hits harder than Roy.

Look, I'm not saying Roy isn't a hard hitter, he most definitetly is. He is a lb more than a safety(cant cover and if you think he can then you dont know what you're talking about!). Most of the 'devastating' hits Williams makes are illegal and/or horse-collar tackles! For example, the hit that injured TO was a horse collar tackle. Was it impressive? No. Roy Williams is a big guy. When you horse-collar somoene, you use your weight to take them down. Another example is the hit on Coles you guys love to brag about. IT WAS ILLEGAL!!!!!!!!!!! The NFL fined him for that hit(helmet-to-helmet). You can say Taylor spits on people or whatever(which is stupid and irrevelant) but he doesnt horse-collar and helmet-to-helmet intentionally and on a regular basis like RW.

And Taylor has taken many runners one-on-one and pushed them backwards. Priest Holmes, that big GOAL LINE specialist RB the Vikings had, Lamont Jordan, Ryan Moats, Marcel Shipp to name a few. Not to mention the receivers, FBs, and TEs(Gates included) that he has taken down one-on-one.

No, I'm not a homer. I dont think that every player on the Skins is better than Cowboys players. RW does things better than Taylor, too. RW has solid technique and he is rarely out of position. Those are two things Sean Taylor has yet to master. Taylor takes a lot of bad angles and is out of position. He is improving though.

ST was a top 5 pick and RW was top 10. Safetys rarely go in the top 10, especially top 5. ST had character issues coming out of college. Any player who has that automatically drops down the draft. Jimmy Williams, who is probably the best talented CB in this year's entire draft(preseason top 10 pick), fell into the mid-2nd round because of his character. ST was so good that a guy like Gibbs(who RARELY takes a chance on guys with character issues) spent a top 5 pick on him.

Also, if you watched this year's draft coverage on ESPN, they were comparing all the Safetys to Sean Taylor, not Roy Williams. :)

:dissskin:

Dumbest post I have read all day
 
AdamJT13 said:
Emmitt had absorbed thousands and thousands of hits before that. He took one hit from Roy, and Emmitt acknowledged it as the hardest he has ever been hit.

case closed
 
yazzmode621 said:
(This is ridiculous. You guys say to look at highlights of Williams and Taylor and see who hits harder. Well I keep looking and I keep coming to the same conclusion. Taylor DEFINITELY hits harder than Roy.

Look, I'm not saying Roy isn't a hard hitter, he most definitetly is. He is a lb more than a safety(cant cover and if you think he can then you dont know what you're talking about!). Most of the 'devastating' hits Williams makes are illegal and/or horse-collar tackles! For example, the hit that injured TO was a horse collar tackle. Was it impressive? No. Roy Williams is a big guy. When you horse-collar somoene, you use your weight to take them down. Another example is the hit on Coles you guys love to brag about. IT WAS ILLEGAL!!!!!!!!!!! The NFL fined him for that hit(helmet-to-helmet). You can say Taylor spits on people or whatever(which is stupid and irrevelant) but he doesnt horse-collar and helmet-to-helmet intentionally and on a regular basis like RW.

And Taylor has taken many runners one-on-one and pushed them backwards. Priest Holmes, that big GOAL LINE specialist RB the Vikings had, Lamont Jordan, Ryan Moats, Marcel Shipp to name a few. Not to mention the receivers, FBs, and TEs(Gates included) that he has taken down one-on-one.

No, I'm not a homer. I dont think that every player on the Skins is better than Cowboys players. RW does things better than Taylor, too. RW has solid technique and he is rarely out of position. Those are two things Sean Taylor has yet to master. Taylor takes a lot of bad angles and is out of position. He is improving though.

ST was a top 5 pick and RW was top 10. Safetys rarely go in the top 10, especially top 5. ST had character issues coming out of college. Any player who has that automatically drops down the draft. Jimmy Williams, who is probably the best talented CB in this year's entire draft(preseason top 10 pick), fell into the mid-2nd round because of his character. ST was so good that a guy like Gibbs(who RARELY takes a chance on guys with character issues) spent a top 5 pick on him.

Also, if you watched this year's draft coverage on ESPN, they were comparing all the Safetys to Sean Taylor, not Roy Williams. :)
I'm just guessing mind you, but your favorite style of haberdashery growing up was pointed and had a conical shape to it.
 
TEK2000 said:
I'm just curious but did you read my post on the previous page and take a look at the videos posted?

Also, NO ONE has said ANYTHING about dragging TO down from behind being a "big hit". That's just IDIOTIC!

Actually a lot of you guys(just read this entire thread) brag about that 'big hit' on TO...

I honestly looked at RW's video and ST's highlight video. Look at Taylor's highlights from both seasons, not just one. Then make a decision. I honestly think Taylor is the better hitter and player.

As for me posting Cowboys players better than their Commanders counterparts...
SS - RW
CB - Terrence Newman
OLB - DeMarcus Ware
DE - Marcus Spears
WR - TO
#2WR - Glenn
LG - Larry Allen...oops my mistake :)

Thats 6(could've been 7!) positions that I feel you guys are better. That 50% percent of the starting lineup. There is no way you could call me a homer. I just call it as I see it.
 
yazzmode621 said:
Actually I'm doing fine. Thanks for your help though :)

no, you're not doing fine, other than in a Commander fan's opinion, I've never seen anyone rank ST ahead of Roy as a vicious hitter

I think you should maybe think about grabbing that life preserver
 

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