TEK2000 said:ALSO, I have yet to see a good hit on Terrell Owens by Sean Taylor. I've seen 2 and they were cheap shots.. 1 pushing him while he was out of bounds and the other with ST throwing his elbow into TO's face mask after the play was apparently over.
TEK2000 said:The RW video shows Roy trying to be blocked by Todd Pinkston and Pinkston winds up on the ground (yeah... Pinkston is routinely ...
You volunteering?cowboywho? said:I'm not brothering to read through this whole thread.
How can you tell who really hit harder though? Seems to me the logic way to do this is to tkae test subjects and let sean taylor and roy william hit them. then ask them who hit harder.
yazzmode621 said:(This is ridiculous. You guys say to look at highlights of Williams and Taylor and see who hits harder. Well I keep looking and I keep coming to the same conclusion. Taylor DEFINITELY hits harder than Roy.
Actually he covers ok for his position (SS) He is not great but is average thereLook, I'm not saying Roy isn't a hard hitter, he most definitetly is. He is a lb more than a safety(cant cover and if you think he can then you dont know what you're talking about!).
Most of the 'devastating' hits Williams makes are illegal and/or horse-collar tackles!
You can say Taylor spits on people or whatever(which is stupid and irrevelant)
Since it was made illegal Roy has not been flagged for horse collaring once. As for intentionally hitting helmet to helmet get out of here with that bull****but he doesnt horse-collar and helmet-to-helmet intentionally and on a regular basis like RW.
And Taylor has taken many runners one-on-one and pushed them backwards. Priest Holmes, that big GOAL LINE specialist RB the Vikings had, Lamont Jordan, Ryan Moats, Marcel Shipp to name a few. Not to mention the receivers, FBs, and TEs(Gates included) that he has taken down one-on-one.
Yes you areNo, I'm not a homer.
I dont think that every player on the Skins is better than Cowboys players.
RW does things better than Taylor, too. RW has solid technique and he is rarely out of position. Those are two things Sean Taylor has yet to master. Taylor takes a lot of bad angles and is out of position. He is improving though.
That was his mistake, The talent is there. The head isn'tGibbs(who RARELY takes a chance on guys with character issues) spent a top 5 pick on him.
Also, if you watched this year's draft coverage on ESPN, they were comparing all the Safetys to Sean Taylor, not Roy Williams.![]()
yazzmode621 said:(This is ridiculous. You guys say to look at highlights of Williams and Taylor and see who hits harder. Well I keep looking and I keep coming to the same conclusion. Taylor DEFINITELY hits harder than Roy.
Look, I'm not saying Roy isn't a hard hitter, he most definitetly is. He is a lb more than a safety(cant cover and if you think he can then you dont know what you're talking about!). Most of the 'devastating' hits Williams makes are illegal and/or horse-collar tackles! For example, the hit that injured TO was a horse collar tackle. Was it impressive? No. Roy Williams is a big guy. When you horse-collar somoene, you use your weight to take them down. Another example is the hit on Coles you guys love to brag about. IT WAS ILLEGAL!!!!!!!!!!! The NFL fined him for that hit(helmet-to-helmet). You can say Taylor spits on people or whatever(which is stupid and irrevelant) but he doesnt horse-collar and helmet-to-helmet intentionally and on a regular basis like RW.
And Taylor has taken many runners one-on-one and pushed them backwards. Priest Holmes, that big GOAL LINE specialist RB the Vikings had, Lamont Jordan, Ryan Moats, Marcel Shipp to name a few. Not to mention the receivers, FBs, and TEs(Gates included) that he has taken down one-on-one.
No, I'm not a homer. I dont think that every player on the Skins is better than Cowboys players. RW does things better than Taylor, too. RW has solid technique and he is rarely out of position. Those are two things Sean Taylor has yet to master. Taylor takes a lot of bad angles and is out of position. He is improving though.
ST was a top 5 pick and RW was top 10. Safetys rarely go in the top 10, especially top 5. ST had character issues coming out of college. Any player who has that automatically drops down the draft. Jimmy Williams, who is probably the best talented CB in this year's entire draft(preseason top 10 pick), fell into the mid-2nd round because of his character. ST was so good that a guy like Gibbs(who RARELY takes a chance on guys with character issues) spent a top 5 pick on him.
Also, if you watched this year's draft coverage on ESPN, they were comparing all the Safetys to Sean Taylor, not Roy Williams.![]()
yazzmode621 said:(This is ridiculous. You guys say to look at highlights of Williams and Taylor and see who hits harder. Well I keep looking and I keep coming to the same conclusion. Taylor DEFINITELY hits harder than Roy.
Look, I'm not saying Roy isn't a hard hitter, he most definitetly is. He is a lb more than a safety(cant cover and if you think he can then you dont know what you're talking about!). Most of the 'devastating' hits Williams makes are illegal and/or horse-collar tackles! For example, the hit that injured TO was a horse collar tackle. Was it impressive? No. Roy Williams is a big guy. When you horse-collar somoene, you use your weight to take them down. Another example is the hit on Coles you guys love to brag about. IT WAS ILLEGAL!!!!!!!!!!! The NFL fined him for that hit(helmet-to-helmet). You can say Taylor spits on people or whatever(which is stupid and irrevelant) but he doesnt horse-collar and helmet-to-helmet intentionally and on a regular basis like RW.
And Taylor has taken many runners one-on-one and pushed them backwards. Priest Holmes, that big GOAL LINE specialist RB the Vikings had, Lamont Jordan, Ryan Moats, Marcel Shipp to name a few. Not to mention the receivers, FBs, and TEs(Gates included) that he has taken down one-on-one.
No, I'm not a homer. I dont think that every player on the Skins is better than Cowboys players. RW does things better than Taylor, too. RW has solid technique and he is rarely out of position. Those are two things Sean Taylor has yet to master. Taylor takes a lot of bad angles and is out of position. He is improving though.
ST was a top 5 pick and RW was top 10. Safetys rarely go in the top 10, especially top 5. ST had character issues coming out of college. Any player who has that automatically drops down the draft. Jimmy Williams, who is probably the best talented CB in this year's entire draft(preseason top 10 pick), fell into the mid-2nd round because of his character. ST was so good that a guy like Gibbs(who RARELY takes a chance on guys with character issues) spent a top 5 pick on him.
Also, if you watched this year's draft coverage on ESPN, they were comparing all the Safetys to Sean Taylor, not Roy Williams.![]()
AdamJT13 said:Emmitt had absorbed thousands and thousands of hits before that. He took one hit from Roy, and Emmitt acknowledged it as the hardest he has ever been hit.
I'm just guessing mind you, but your favorite style of haberdashery growing up was pointed and had a conical shape to it.yazzmode621 said:(This is ridiculous. You guys say to look at highlights of Williams and Taylor and see who hits harder. Well I keep looking and I keep coming to the same conclusion. Taylor DEFINITELY hits harder than Roy.
Look, I'm not saying Roy isn't a hard hitter, he most definitetly is. He is a lb more than a safety(cant cover and if you think he can then you dont know what you're talking about!). Most of the 'devastating' hits Williams makes are illegal and/or horse-collar tackles! For example, the hit that injured TO was a horse collar tackle. Was it impressive? No. Roy Williams is a big guy. When you horse-collar somoene, you use your weight to take them down. Another example is the hit on Coles you guys love to brag about. IT WAS ILLEGAL!!!!!!!!!!! The NFL fined him for that hit(helmet-to-helmet). You can say Taylor spits on people or whatever(which is stupid and irrevelant) but he doesnt horse-collar and helmet-to-helmet intentionally and on a regular basis like RW.
And Taylor has taken many runners one-on-one and pushed them backwards. Priest Holmes, that big GOAL LINE specialist RB the Vikings had, Lamont Jordan, Ryan Moats, Marcel Shipp to name a few. Not to mention the receivers, FBs, and TEs(Gates included) that he has taken down one-on-one.
No, I'm not a homer. I dont think that every player on the Skins is better than Cowboys players. RW does things better than Taylor, too. RW has solid technique and he is rarely out of position. Those are two things Sean Taylor has yet to master. Taylor takes a lot of bad angles and is out of position. He is improving though.
ST was a top 5 pick and RW was top 10. Safetys rarely go in the top 10, especially top 5. ST had character issues coming out of college. Any player who has that automatically drops down the draft. Jimmy Williams, who is probably the best talented CB in this year's entire draft(preseason top 10 pick), fell into the mid-2nd round because of his character. ST was so good that a guy like Gibbs(who RARELY takes a chance on guys with character issues) spent a top 5 pick on him.
Also, if you watched this year's draft coverage on ESPN, they were comparing all the Safetys to Sean Taylor, not Roy Williams.![]()
TEK2000 said:I'm just curious but did you read my post on the previous page and take a look at the videos posted?
Also, NO ONE has said ANYTHING about dragging TO down from behind being a "big hit". That's just IDIOTIC!
summerisfunner said:sorry yazz, you're drowning, here's a life preserver
yazzmode621 said:Actually I'm doing fine. Thanks for your help though![]()