Who is the best QB entering 2015? From NFL.com

perrykemp

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I know one thing, Romo is definitely better than Peyton Manning going into the season. That guy is a gigantic noodle arm right now. And Andrew Luck is good but he is a turnover machine.

Agreed on both points.
 

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I disagree with the statement that our line gave him all day to throw. We have a great line but I remember too many times where the ball was snapped and Romo was on his back. The line was great at times and bad at times. His scrambling ability bought him time. Our line is great at run blocking but could be better at pass protection. As far as winning goes, if the Dez catch hadn't been overturned we would have been in the Championship game. I know your not a Romo fan but he would already have a ring if the team had a just a decent D the last few years. I respect your opinion but your argument is arguable to say the least..

I'm just saying all in all we had a fantastic line and running game. I remember several times throughout the season where Romo had like 7+ seconds to throw the ball. That is an insane anount of time. The Commanders game was one where the defense blitzed over and over and Romo looked like a rookie QB. Had zero clue what to do.

Romo had an extremely good supporting cast. Outstansing line, outstanding RB, elite TE, elite WR, etc. It takes all of that to get us anywhere with Romo. He had the best season of his career because of all of that. Our defense was probably average in the league. In this day in age in the NFL you can't have everything perfect around you.
 

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I know one thing, Romo is definitely better than Peyton Manning going into the season. That guy is a gigantic noodle arm right now. And Andrew Luck is good but he is a turnover machine.

I disagree on that. Peyton was on fire last year until he got hurt. He has had plenty of time to heal. Luck gets better and better every year and is closing in on elite status. I would take either one of these guys over Romo to start our season.
 

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I'm just saying all in all we had a fantastic line and running game. I remember several times throughout the season where Romo had like 7+ seconds to throw the ball. That is an insane anount of time. The Commanders game was one where the defense blitzed over and over and Romo looked like a rookie QB. Had zero clue what to do.

Romo had an extremely good supporting cast. Outstansing line, outstanding RB, elite TE, elite WR, etc. It takes all of that to get us anywhere with Romo. He had the best season of his career because of all of that. Our defense was probably average in the league. In this day in age in the NFL you can't have everything perfect around you.

So you pick one of his bad games in a season of spectacular play as a referendum on Romo? You're a joke.
 

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The Cowboy's OL wasn't as good at pass blocking last year as some here seem to think. It's not like Romo went untouched.

The Packer's pass blocking was at least on par with the Cowboys last year. PFF had the Packers OL ranked as the #1 pass blocking line in the NFL and Football Outsiders also ranked them ahead of the Cowboys OL.

My point here is the guy who led the league in passing rating (Romo) actually played behind a OL that probably wasn't as good overall in pass protection as the guy who ended up #2 in passing rating (Rodgers).

I think some folks assume the Cowboys absolute dominance in run blocking equates to an equivalent degree of pass blocking -- which is didn't last year. The 10 sacks allowed in 2 games during the playoffs are an example of this -- although obviously not of them were the OL's responsibility.

I expect them to be much better pass blocking this season.

My guess is Rodgers made his Oline look good in pass protection. With regards to ours... When teams blitz and bring more defenders than we have blockers, it is on the QB to pick that up and get rid of the ball fast. Romo ate multiple sacks he didn't have to in that Lions game from holding it too long.
 

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If I need some exciting wins in the regular season, Romo is top 3. If a need a QB to win a Super Bowl, he's no where near the top. Pretty indisputable evidence.

You blamed him for losing the Packers game. Credibility hit there. There's an easy litmus test for knowledgeable NFL fans. You've failed repeatedly. If you have any doubts look at the company you're keeping in this thread.
 

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You obviously can't think for yourself, so you spew the loud, northeastern non-thinking BS over and over.

Down here, we know football. You don't produce football players up there, you have to draft them from here.

Romo played brilliantly in the playoffs last year when he finally had a well-rounded team. He couldn't outscore teams by himself when Dallas's defense gave it up like a brothel in Vegas.

Learn football.

Don't know where that guys from for he certainly is a short-buser regarding football smarts.
 

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Because he's not that good.

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The next level is not the divisional round of the playoffs. I know we as Cowboys fans don't know anything about success in the NFL anymore, but please have some self-respect as a fan.

You're a Cowboys fan?? I ACTUALLY thought you were a troll until I read this. So, a Cowboys "fan" who blames everything on Romo, eh? Man, you must be a miserable person. I almost feel sorry for you.
 

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You blamed him for losing the Packers game. Credibility hit there. There's an easy litmus test for knowledgeable NFL fans. You've failed repeatedly. If you have any doubts look at the company you're keeping in this thread.

If anything I thought they didn't allow Romo to throw it enough in the Packer game.

From a QB rating perspective he outplayed Rodgers in that game. Problem is he only had 19 attempts.
 

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If I need some exciting wins in the regular season, Romo is top 3. If a need a QB to win a Super Bowl, he's no where near the top. Pretty indisputable evidence.

The QB that was part of the Super Bowl winning team last year threw for 33 TDs, 9 INTs, 4,109 Yards, 97.4 RTG had a 64.1 Completion Percentage, and had 4 game winning drives.

Tony Romo threw for 34 TDs, 9 INTs, 3,705 Yards, 113.2 RTG had a 69.9 Completion Percentage, and had 5 game winning drives.

The QB that was part of the Super Bowl winning team in 2013 threw for 26 TDs, 9 INTs, 3,357 Yards, 101.2 RTG, had a 63.2 Completion Percentage, and had 5 game winning drives.

In 2013, Tony Romo threw for 31 TDs, 10 INTs, 3,828 Yards, 96.7 RTG, had a 63.9 Completion Percentage, and had 4 game winning drives.

Please provide me with some of this mythical "indisputable evidence" that shows Romo (3rd place in NFL MVP votes last year) isn't Super Bowl caliber.
 

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Rodgers and Luck. Those are the only 2 that I'd take over romo right now. But some of that is due to loyalty to Romo.
 

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I'm just saying all in all we had a fantastic line and running game. I remember several times throughout the season where Romo had like 7+ seconds to throw the ball. That is an insane anount of time. The Commanders game was one where the defense blitzed over and over and Romo looked like a rookie QB. Had zero clue what to do.

Romo had an extremely good supporting cast. Outstansing line, outstanding RB, elite TE, elite WR, etc. It takes all of that to get us anywhere with Romo. He had the best season of his career because of all of that. Our defense was probably average in the league. In this day in age in the NFL you can't have everything perfect around you.

You also are the person who told me that, I was going to get blocked before 2014 season started because I was "delusional" when I said we were gonna make the playoffs and be good this year. So your credibility and judgment gets called into question here.
 

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You also are the person who told me that, I was going to get blocked before 2014 season started because I was "delusional" when I said we were gonna make the playoffs and be good this year. So your credibility and judgment gets called into question here.

ufc is a pathetic joke these days. He's so frustrated because he can't unload on Romo after we made the playoffs, Romo got MVP votes and finished with the 5th highest QB rating of all time, and didn't have a single "game losing" play to obsess over all year. All of the Romo hating trolls, ufc, jnday, Clove, Troll Blazer, etc. are frustrated beyond belief right now. Loving every minute of how neutered they are.
 

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The QB that was part of the Super Bowl winning team last year threw for 33 TDs, 9 INTs, 4,109 Yards, 97.4 RTG had a 64.1 Completion Percentage, and had 4 game winning drives.

Tony Romo threw for 34 TDs, 9 INTs, 3,705 Yards, 113.2 RTG had a 69.9 Completion Percentage, and had 5 game winning drives.

The QB that was part of the Super Bowl winning team in 2013 threw for 26 TDs, 9 INTs, 3,357 Yards, 101.2 RTG, had a 63.2 Completion Percentage, and had 5 game winning drives.

In 2013, Tony Romo threw for 31 TDs, 10 INTs, 3,828 Yards, 96.7 RTG, had a 63.9 Completion Percentage, and had 4 game winning drives.

Please provide me with some of this mythical "indisputable evidence" that shows Romo (3rd place in NFL MVP votes last year) isn't Super Bowl caliber.

It doesn't matter what Romo does to this crowd. Any stats, statements from actual smart football media sources or even future results won change anything. They say he's not elite or SB caliber because he hasn't won one. If he does then it will just be "oh he needed a perfect OL and great defense" or some other lame excuse. He's not going to change their minds even if he wins 3 SBs in a row. I'm convinced they actively hope he fails so they can keep up the ignorance.
 

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Probably right. Whatever. Give me Rodgers and then Romo right now.

Honest question here, but if Rodgers continues on this pace, not get better but just stays consistent, is he a top 10 QB of all-time?

I don't think so.......I think he is over-rated. Don't get me wrong, he is a good to great player but I think he is put on a pedestal IMO. He gets way too much praise and no one ever points out his negatives.

Maybe this is just the pinot grigio talking, heh.
 
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