Who would you extend this year before they breakout?

[Denim Chicken]

I like Murray around 7mil per year with playtime exclusions.

 

[Phoenix]

LP

 

[LittleD]

I like Murray around 7mil per year with playtime exclusions.

No way....If we offer him more than 12mil for 4 years we'd be crazy...You just don't pay for RB's in this man's NFL.

 

[Denim Chicken]

No way....If we offer him more than 12mil for 4 years we'd be crazy...You just don't pay for RB's in this man's NFL.

3mil avg per year? No offense, but I don't believe you understand market. That is insanely low. Rashad Jennings got 4 year 14 mil and he had only 1,677 yards in a five year career. Murray had 1,471 last year missing two games!

 

[Nightman]

The League just doesn't value RBs that high anymore. There is no reason to discuss Murray until after the season. He is probably in Lee's class when healthy and we know how that has turned out so far.

Beasley and Harris are just guys. They have skills, but they are replaceable. Guys like Crawford and Parnell have potential, but you don't extend guys like them early either.

There really isn't anyone worth rushing a deal. The only guys that need to get deals are Dez and TSmith. Getting them done this year means that they can pro-rate any signing bonus a year early and then use a second year roster bonus to extend the pro-ration a couple more years to keep the cap numbers manageable.

 

[jazzcat22]

Extend Dez & Tyron, we all know that. However they can always use the franchise tag if need be.on one and extend the other.

Wait on Murray. See if he stats healthy and how he produces. I also believe this is one of the reasons they brought in Ryan Williams. If Murray goes down, and Williams does take over, then they have a RB until they find another one in the draft.

I would wait on Harris and Beasley also. They have qutie a few WR's on the roster to compete with them, and if they can keep a few on the PS until next year. Is either one that big of a difference maker for long term to extend them now. Other than Harris' return abilities, but do you extend just for that.

 

[BoysFan4ever]

Jason Garrett!

 

[LittleD]

The League just doesn't value RBs that high anymore. There is no reason to discuss Murray until after the season. He is probably in Lee's class when healthy and we know how that has turned out so far.

Beasley and Harris are just guys. They have skills, but they are replaceable. Guys like Crawford and Parnell have potential, but you don't extend guys like them early either.

There really isn't anyone worth rushing a deal. The only guys that need to get deals are Dez and TSmith. Getting them done this year means that they can pro-rate any signing bonus a year early and then use a second year roster bonus to extend the pro-ration a couple more years to keep the cap numbers manageable.

I'm sorry but if you think in your wildest dreams that Beasley is going anywhere you aren't paying attention. Romo loves
him some Beasley and what Romo wants, Romo gets. What do Romo friendly mean!!!!

 

[Nightman]

I didn't say he is going anywhere, but you don't run to overpay him. He has some talent and seems to fit the offense, but he is replaceable.

 

[Nexx]

3mil avg per year? No offense, but I don't believe you understand market. That is insanely low. Rashad Jennings got 4 year 14 mil and he had only 1,677 yards in a five year career. Murray had 1,471 last year missing two games!

ahhh no he didn't... he had 1,121 yards... emmitt had those types of numbers in the twilight of his years..

 

[Denim Chicken]

ahhh no he didn't... he had 1,121 yards... emmitt had those types of numbers in the twilight of his years..

All purpose yards

 

[AbeBeta]

Judging from how we've tried to lock down guys early (Scandrick, Church) - it would have to be a guy going into RFA.

So that might be someone like Leary or Beasley

 

[KJJ]

The problem with not extending him is you have to commit a draft pick next year finding his replacement. Then you have to hope he is just as good as Murray.

Had the Cowboys drafted Eddie Lacy (the player I wanted) in the 2nd round in 2013 instead of Escobar who provided very little as a rookie they wouldn't have to worry about the RB position for awhile. Most drafts are deep in RB's Murray was a 3rd round pick. With RB's not as valued as they once were it's becoming easier to find quality backs later in the draft. An RB didn't come off the board until the 2nd round this past May.

The problem with extending Murray now is of course his injury history and Dez and Tyron will be up for extensions. It's going to be very expensive extending Dez and Tyron long-term which may put Murray on the outside looking in. I would like to see the Cowboys keep Murray provided he doesn't have an injury plagued season but with Dez and Tyron up for extensions he's going to have to come at a discount.

 

[AbeBeta]

Had the Cowboys drafted Eddie Lacy (the player I wanted) in the 2nd round in 2013 instead of Escobar who provided very little as a rookie they wouldn't have to worry about the RB position for awhile. Most drafts are deep in RB's Murray was a 3rd round pick. With RB's not as valued as they once were it's becoming easier to find quality backs later in the draft. An RB didn't come off the board until the 2nd round this past May.

The problem with extending Murray now is of course his injury history and Dez and Tyron will be up for extensions. It's going to be very expensive extending Dez and Tyron long-term which may put Murray on the outside looking in. I would like to see the Cowboys keep Murray provided he doesn't have an injury plagued season but with Dez and Tyron up for extensions he's going to have to come at a discount.

Had we drafted Lacy, either he would not be playing much. Murray got about 50 fewer yards rushing than Lacy. But he carried almost 70 fewer times. Murray also caught 18 more passes.

Lacy is a guy who needs the ball all day to be effective. You have to give him the ball 20+ times a game to get anything out of him. Murray on the other hand can give you 100 yards on fewer than 20 carries.

Murray, at this point of his career, is a far better back than Lacy. We'd have a substantial dropoff with Lacy

 

[DFWJC]

Its not tricky with Murray. You don't resign him. That is destined to be a bad contract.

Odds are, this is true...sadly. I really like him being on the team. Good player and person.

I really doubt they extend him. Not much upside in doing so. I guess if it was very reasonable rate, it's possible. RB contracts lately have come way down, relatively speaking.

They're not really that hard to find.
There's even a chance Ryan Williams is as good as Murray..IF healthy and after getting reps.

 

[DFWJC]

Had we drafted Lacy, either he would not be playing much. Murray got about 50 fewer yards rushing than Lacy. But he carried almost 70 fewer times. Murray also caught 18 more passes.

Lacy is a guy who needs the ball all day to be effective. You have to give him the ball 20+ times a game to get anything out of him. Murray on the other hand can give you 100 yards on fewer than 20 carries.

Murray, at this point of his career, is a far better back than Lacy. We'd have a substantial dropoff with Lacy

Man, I don't think that at all.

Ask 32 GMs in the league if they want Lacy over Murray at this stage and you get 31 or 32 saying "yes", imo.

jmo

 

[Risen Star]

Man, I don't think that at all.

Ask 32 GMs in the league if they want Lacy over Murray at this stage and you get 31 or 32 saying "yes", imo.

jmo

I said last year at this time that the Packers had a better RB group than the Cowboys, to hurled tomatoes and collective farts around the room. You can not think a rookie is better than Murray.

One year later and it's pretty clear.

 

[jazzcat22]

I said last year at this time that the Packers had a better RB group than the Cowboys, to hurled tomatoes and collective farts around the room. You can not think a rookie is better than Murray.

One year later and it's pretty clear.

GB went through quite a few RB's before they got Lacey. They had a few decent ones, but injuries held them back. But they hit on Lacey, he looks to be good for a long time.

 

[BigStar]

That cools and all, until Randle become your #1.

To be fair, Randle wouldn't have made the team if he wasn't drafted. Really it was just a lack of talent brought in or being stubborn about acknowledging the draft mistake. I like Dunbar as a scat back but not as the primary back up. Hopefully one of the UDFAs shines to take on that role.

 

[Denim Chicken]

To be fair, Randle wouldn't have made the team if he wasn't drafted. Really it was just a lack of talent brought in or being stubborn about acknowledging the draft mistake. .

That's why I find in funny that people think we can just go out and draft a top RB in mid rounds. Yeah, it can happen; but it's far from guaranteed.