Who's your pick at #4?

[Rogerthat12]

I trade the #4 overall. I can't get value if I select my QB or RB at that position. However, next draft 2017 is going to be RB heavy in the top three rounds.

Therefore, I trade down to the middle third of the 1st round but add value by picking up at an additional #1 in 2017.

Patience is a virtue.

Who is your trading partner that is moving to #4?

 

[Leadbelly]

Who is your trading partner that is moving to #4?

I imagine you'd have to drop to the 11-15 area to pick up a 1st next year, where it's Chicago (11), New Orleans (12), Philadelphia (13), and St Louis at (15). I would never throw that bone to Philadelphia if it was for a QB. Also conceivable we could work out a deeper trade back with NY Jets (20) that involves a Sheldon Richardson or Mo Wilkerson (if franchised) plus picks.

San Francisco at 7 probably creates a trade up scenario for whichever QB is left.

 

[Rogerthat12]

I imagine you'd have to drop to the 11-15 area to pick up a 1st next year, where it's Chicago (11), New Orleans (12), Philadelphia (13), and St Louis at (15). I would never throw that bone to Philadelphia if it was for a QB. Also conceivable we could work out a deeper trade back with NY Jets (20) that involves a Sheldon Richardson or Mo Wilkerson (if franchised) plus picks.

San Francisco at 7 probably creates a trade up scenario for whichever QB is left.

It would be a steep cost for a team moving from 11-15 up to #4, just depends how desperate they are for one of those QB's if available.

I could see SF attempting that move assuming one of the QB's were available at #4 but again the compensation would have to be right for the Cowboys to consider.

Many times people say trade down but do not realize that in the top 5, in a draft that is somewhat mediocre on the top end, it will be very difficult to just trade down.

Of course, the caveat to this would be the QB factor, it will depend on how these QB's are evaluated from now until the draft evaluation process comes to a close prior to the draft.

Some will rise and fall, only time will tell with reference to the actual projections.

Last, one has to assume the Cowboys do not covet one of the QB's at #4.

 

[Westcoasthabsfan]

jared Goff would be my pick at 4 if available if not trade down

 

[Rack]

I like to look for comparisons. Other than Rodgers, what QB was drafted in the 1st round, sat a little? Also, sat a little and was good?

Steve McNair, off the top of my head.

 

[Iron_Man]

There is a lot of great talent in this years draft, this will be a difficult decision on which way they will want to go. Obviously if you're going to let Hardy walk, I would want to shore his position up with Bosa. Although I like Ramsey as well as Hargreaves, I'm just scared of picking another DB that high after the Claiborne fiasco. If you're going offense, do you pick Goff if he's still there or Paxton Lynch? I'm not so sure on either of those guys, but one of them will most likely be available. I can't say that I'd be upset if they feel as if either one of them is the franchise for the future. Now we're down to my favorite player, Laquon Treadwell. I didn't know how well he would do after that gruesome injury to his leg his sophomore year, but seeing him bounce back the way he did this year, I would be jumping for joy if we got him. He is basically a Dez clone without the baggage. It's a scary thought of having Treadwell opposite Dez. Any direction this team wants to choose, it's going to be hard to screw this draft pick up............I think. Thoughts?

Goff will be gone, Bosa.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

That article is talking about value (dollars paid in return for performance), which is a different conversation, especially given that there is now a rookie pay cap.

It doesn't take a PhD to understand that you want to pay the least amount of money for the most amount of performance, but that's not what the Cowboys are currently facing; it's not about dollars.

You should..... Finish the article.

 

[DoctorChicken]

If Goff is there, make the pick.

If he's not, trade down and draft Wentz. Those are the only two potential franchise QBs I really like in this draft.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Teddy has not impressed me. He's a one read run for it guy right now. He looked better against Green Bay.

Are we talking about the same guy. Teddy ran the ball less than 3 times per game this year.

I wonder if you're letting racial stereotypes cloud tour analysis.

That or you've only seen him play once...

 

[Howboutdemcowboys31]

Im trading back 3-4 spots and scooping Ramsey or Elliot

 

[TheCount]

You should..... Finish the article.

You say that like there's some great gem at the end. I read the article, hence my previous response.

That strategy makes sense from an economists point of view. Everything else being equal, obviously you'd rather be paying Russel Wilson 500k a year to win a Superbowl than 18m to Tom Brady to win a Superbowl.

That, however, is not the argument at hand and it doesn't justify bailing out without even seeing who's sitting at the table.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

You say that like there's some great gem at the end. I read the article, hence my previous response.

Then....i'm confused by your confusion...

 

[TheCount]

Then....i'm confused by your confusion...

I think you're the only one that's confused.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

I think you're the only one that's confused.

The last part of the article is talking directly about quantity vs quality.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Lets not make this too complicated fellas, there is really 2 options here that make any sense at all.

Option A...........we trade down from pick 4 and get multiple picks over the first 3 rounds of the draft.

Option B...........we got no trade partner or we decide to sit tight at 4. In this case, the top four players in the draft are Lynch, Goff, Tunsul, and Bosa. One of these guys is going to be there, so you just take the guy that falls to you.

Now barring a trade, we know that Tennessee is not taking a QB since they have Marriota, but they need protection for him so Tunsul makes the most sense. We also know that San Diego is not taking a QB since they just signed Rivers through 2019. So Cleveland is the only team that would logically take a QB or they could take Bosa.

So sitting at pick 4, we are either going to have one of the QBs on the board or we are going to have Bosa on the board. You field some calls, see if you can ransom the pick off, and then if nobody takes the bait or if we love the guy, we take him.

 

[Beast_from_East]

1. Goff (likely already gone to CLE at #2 or via trade at #3)
2. Bosa
3. Jack

That's what I'd want and I think that's what our board will look like. If Goff and Bosa are gone, I wouldn't mind trading back a bit to accumulate picks, and then targeting Elliott or Hargreaves in the teens.

Man, if we take a MLB at pick 4 he better be the next Urlacher.............not a fan of drafting LBs in the top 5

 

[Reverend Conehead]

Lynch or Goff. I think Cleveland will take Lynch and we'll get Goff. I'm fine with our new draftee sitting backup for a year or until the next Romo injury. I think 2016 is Romo's last season, though I doubt Jerry thinks that. I worry that Jerry drafts neither and brings in Manziel instead.

 

[bayeslife]

Who would? Not me.

He's OK, but they're going nowhere in the playoffs. Seattle going to thump them next week in Minnesota.

Bridgewater is a good bus driver, but he takes very few chances and just tries to manage games. Nothing special there.

I remember when the exact same the thing was said of Russell Wilson.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

Pretty early in the process and still a lot of things that could happen with the Senior Bowl, Combine, etc., but I don't believe either of the two QBs will be on the board when Dallas picks. So, if they stay at #4, I think LaQuan Treadwell is exactly what this team needs. Two Dez Bryants on the football field would mean defenses cannot double Dez or stack the box.

 

[Alexander]

Option B...........we got no trade partner or we decide to sit tight at 4. In this case, the top four players in the draft are Lynch, Goff, Tunsul, and Bosa. One of these guys is going to be there, so you just take the guy that falls to you.

I do not see the value in drafting Tunsil at four. Not that he is not a good player, but you then shift him to the right side and then have an inordinate amount of resources dedicated to the OL. If you are looking for a fourth to add to that mix, I go look at Myles Jack or even Treadwell there.