Why are we running the ball effectively with Rush but not with Dak?

[Section446]

Because defenses actually respect Rush and his ability to throw.

 

[Diehardblues]

Dak is more physically talented, but I'm starting to question mightily whether he's a better player.

The telling story will be how much Rush’s stock rises . Remember this year after impressing everyone last year in Minnesota , he still passed thru waiver wires.

If he stays in long enough we’ll know more if he faces the Rams and Egirls coming up after Wash. If he has success against them then his stock should soar.

And we might have to decide in off season if we are willing to over pay a good backup cause he will be pursued. That ultimately will be the telling factor if he is considered a good enough player to start 17 games for a NFL team which he hadn’t been up until now. Proof is in the pudding.

 

[Typhus]

the excuses will be mind numbing when Dak gets back his first start again.

 

[Diehardblues]

That's just silly.

Dak has final authority before the ball is snapped, just like nearly every QB in the league.

The premise CC is presenting isn’t silly. The fact our owner might influence is silly though and why it’s difficult to take our football operations too seriously . It’s very likely Jethro influences wanting to make his 40 million QB a more prolific passer than bus driver.

However I do agree that Prescott does have the final audible option although most QB in NFL only audible about 40% of the plays . And if more of those options are in passing plays then that would increase that possibility as well.

 

[Diehardblues]

the excuses will be mind numbing when Dak gets back his first start again.

Dak should wait and return at least after we play Egirls and Rams although he should provide us a better opportunity to win.

But I’d like to see how Rush fares against these better teams and defenses.

 

[conner01]

Why are we running the ball effectively w/ Rush, but mostly could not do so w/ Dak? I absolutely cannot wrap my head around this one. What's the big difference? Does Dak have a tell? I mean, we're just not seeing defenders meeting RB's in the backfield as we did before.

Any ideas?

We aren’t playing the Bucs

 

[Silverz1972]

Dak must have a tell. Defensive must be able to tell when it is a run and pass.

 

[LysleE]

I think Dak is the more physically gifted QB, but Cooper has a quicker release and processes information (I.e. reading coverages) better and faster than Dak.

I understand the importance of the run game to support a back-up QB, but it seems we run the ball better and have better flow to the game with Cooper at QB thus far. I thought it was impressive that Cooper didn’t get sacked one by Wink Martindales defense.

I would love to see Cooper play against a team like the Rams or the Eagles to see what he can do against a quality opponent. Don’t know that the Bengals and Giants qualify as such.

 

[Haimerej]

Dak must have a tell. Defensive must be able to tell when it is a run and pass.

I don't think it's a tell so much as the system. Systems get figured out the more robotic they're ran. That's where tendencies come in.

Tony talked about changing his tendencies later in his career, around 2013 if I remember. I distinctly recall him saying he needed to stop checking out of runs against a stacked box. Teams would show him a stacked box, he'd check out and they'd drop into a zone and throw off the pass he wanted.

This season, the Tampa Bay player saying they knew Dallas would abandon the run and run "quick game" passing off that- "slants, curls, hitches," speaks to those tendencies. If they know you won't run against a look, they show you that look and anticipate the quick passes as your check.

 

[G2]

Not much to compare imo.

 

[Clove]

We're playing the Giants and Bengals and not Tampa.

 

[mrmojo]

Easy, the offense is no longer Dak friendly....they are optimizing the personnel they have in the game now.

 

[Oz-of-Cowboy-Country]

Why are we running the ball effectively w/ Rush, but mostly could not do so w/ Dak? I absolutely cannot wrap my head around this one. What's the big difference? Does Dak have a tell? I mean, we're just not seeing defenders meeting RB's in the backfield as we did before.

Any ideas?

Moore is using more misdirection run plays now. Pulling offensive lineman, fake jet sweeps, and fake tosses help keep the defense off balance on run plays.

Plus as I'm sure someone has said we don't play the Bucs every week.

 

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

We do run the ball effectivly with Dak

but Kellen has a thing for dak throwing it 60 times a game

Bingo

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

That faster release by Cooper also takes a ton of pressure off the offensive line, makes the play action that much more potent

 

[zerofill]

Why are we running the ball effectively w/ Rush, but mostly could not do so w/ Dak? I absolutely cannot wrap my head around this one. What's the big difference? Does Dak have a tell? I mean, we're just not seeing defenders meeting RB's in the backfield as we did before.

Any ideas?

Yeah you don't spend that much in cap for a QB to hand the ball off the whole game. The dude refuses to run though...
At least he would be useful running until he got broken again. lol

 

[RonnieT24]

That faster release by Cooper also takes a ton of pressure off the offensive line, makes the play action that much more potent

It also results in a lower completion percentage and a lower scoring offense.. But yall aint hear dat from me..

 

[zerofill]

Dak must have a tell. Defensive must be able to tell when it is a run and pass.

Hell, we all usually know when it is a run or a pass. This is Dallas...

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

It also results in a lower completion percentage and a lower scoring offense.. But yall aint hear dat from me..

The offense scored a whopping 3 points in the one game Dak played so what offense are you exactly referring to?

 

[RonnieT24]

The offense scored a whopping 3 points in the one game Dak played so what offense are you exactly referring to?

If your contention is that the offense was going to score 3 points a game with Dak at the helm all season then you run with that if it makes you comfortable. I try to live in the real world. Just looking at the offensive output in Dak's last 5 starts vs the Giants..



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