Why aren’t many talking about the D?

[atlantacowboy]

The offense was just as bad, but this defense was suppose to be among the best in this league, they kept on giving up 7 points on every drive

They kept the game close for a half. We had the ball down 17-7 in the 3rd quarter. The second half was a Dak implosion. That said, I never thought this defense was elite. They dominate bad teams mostly and pad stats in those games. SF is better than us at every level.

 

[Rayman70]

They kept the game close for a half. We had the ball down 17-7 in the 3rd quarter. The second half was a Dak implosion. That said, I never thought this defense was elite. They dominate bad teams mostly and pad stats in those games. SF is better than us at every level.

was a team L. Failures everywhere. From Jerry all the way down the line.

 

[glimmerman]

Our team played just like cards game. A few more turnovers. But was the same performance. They studied cards game. Run and pass at Parsons. And our Offense is predictable and easy.

 

[JW82]

All the talk after the SFO loss has been about how bad Dak dnd MM are, but why isn’t there more talk about how bad the defense was? Even if the offense played well, they weren’t scoring 40 points that the defense gave up. Defense couldn’t stop nothing on Sunday night both run/pass and had so many penalties that extended drives. Where was the pass rush, where were the turnovers?

They get a free pass for padding their stats vs 3 garbage teams and the DQ is god squad won't question him. They are front running frauds

 

[glimmerman]

They kept the game close for a half. We had the ball down 17-7 in the 3rd quarter. The second half was a Dak implosion. That said, I never thought this defense was elite. They dominate bad teams mostly and pad stats in those games. SF is better than us at every level.

Yeah I still had hope at that point thinking we would make adjustments. But we did not. I saw Dez call them out on Twitter. He is Cowboys all the way and said I have to say it. They are predictable, they run everytime they are under center and pass when in shot gun. Every time they line up the opposing defense knows if it’s pass or run. Makes it really easy to play against. That and the routes on pass plays had all the receivers breaking at the same time. Lol.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Yeah I still had hope at that point thinking we would make adjustments. But we did not. I saw Dez call them out on Twitter. He is Cowboys all the way and said I have to say it. They are predictable, they run everytime they are under center and pass when in shot gun. Every time they line up the opposing defense knows if it’s pass or run. Makes it really easy to play against. That and the routes on pass plays had all the receivers breaking at the same time. Lol.

I see that too. But I think MM has had to simplfy routes to adapt to Dak and his inability to read defenses quickly and make adjustments. We’ve seen it every year Dak has been the QB under all 3 OCs.

 

[sbark]

Some nfl games are shootouts.....if both offenses can get going

Remembering the Denver game with Romo yrs ago...50 to 50

 

[Ekspozed]

3 interceptions plus a lost fumble makes it hard on the defense. Admittedly, the D was not great. 4 turnovers is a lot.

If Dallas's offense keeps possession and scores more points, San Fran scores fewer points. Dallas did not need to score 43 points to win.

We were down 28-7 before any ints.

 

[T-RO]

Defense was as bad if not worse then the offense

No. It wasn't.

Not even close.

 

[Ekspozed]

Defenses get worn out. 3 and outs, turnovers...etc. They didn't play well, but it would have helped if the offense could have kept them off the field.

They were fresh when they got cooked on the first drive

 

[darthseinfeld]

All the talk after the SFO loss has been about how bad Dak dnd MM are, but why isn’t there more talk about how bad the defense was? Even if the offense played well, they weren’t scoring 40 points that the defense gave up. Defense couldn’t stop nothing on Sunday night both run/pass and had so many penalties that extended drives. Where was the pass rush, where were the turnovers?

Its a bully defense. They destroy weaker opponents, but can be exploited by stong ones. Been this way since last year. We have had a lot of good games against strong offenses, but if a team can protect its QB they can pick us apart

 

[G2]

They were up 3 TDs. This isn't hard to see. The elite of the elite couldn't come back from that unless San Fran gave up. The defense was awful. Terrible field position, didn't make plays on the ball, the LBers were invisible, no one could tackle, Purdy had lots of protection. Total collapse.

 

[blueblood70]

In my opinion they designed this offense to complement a great defense. When the defense has struggled the offense hasn’t picked them up either. It’s all about mental toughness, when they get punished in the face, they cannot crumble which they did in those 2 losses

here's the thing with offenses they have five times the amount of plays in that playbook that's called on a given game plan and on a given day it's the coaches responsibility to throw the game plan out when it's not working in the second quarter and switch to something else and just I don't care just let Prescott all his own place they can get in the house and go you know what F all this let's just go play go run nine routes all day I don't care I get what you're saying but the compliment ends when the defense doesn't play well so when they see this in the game they have to adjust.. And when they don't this is what you get from your quarterback a frustrated and irritated quarterback with a bunch of irritated wide receivers because they're not trying to throw the ball downfield So what do they go do they force it downfield three straight times and they get intercepted the game was already out of reach it was already over these interceptions didn't count except for they made Prescott the issue on Monday morning

but in my opinion he wasn't the issue it's the play calling it's the execution it's the penalties it's the defense it's Tony Pollard being underutilized he should not be utilized as a number one back between the tackles and now he's fumbling he's ineffective..​

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There are so many things that we can go to before Prescott This is why it gets ridiculous to talk about.. I hope they're having it come to Jesus moment in these closed door meetings aren't just about hey we just need to clean it up and be ourselves no you need to change yourselves when these things are happening teams have this label on you now.. Kinda like when Mike Tyson lost his shine when he gets knocked out and can't go long rounds so then they take these inside now is that they have on the guy and now they play the long game until they wear out Tyson and then they beat him Tyson never was the same once they exposed him this happens in sports you have to make adjustments or you're gonna end up having a really bad season..​

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They call it a blueprint but I call it a book the book is out on the defense and they know that the play caller was trying to be conservative on O they come in with that game plan the defense starts getting beat but again why isn't the play caller the coach the offensive coordinator and the quarterback getting together and saying we need to throw this in the trash and just start playing you don't think they still have the same playbook way in the back that they used the last two years with Kellen Moore it's still in there didn't they say they only change about 30% of the playbook in some of the the verbiage well then why aren't we pulling those plays back out why isn't there more motion why isn't there more movement and double moves things to get get guys open they seem to be running a lot of the things that we hated about Kellen Moore's offense and not running the things we liked about Kellen Moore's offense it seems like the same offense to me just the play calls are now different...​

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I think the narrative here the biggest one that just makes me laugh out loud is that they changed this to a conservative offense to protect Prescott because he doesn't throw down field well I mean have you watched the last three seasons where Kellen Moore being wide open pass happy and you have Prescott putting up a lot of yards a lot of touchdowns and not a lot of interceptions and even when he was stolen interceptions last year he was scoring a lot of points this has nothing to do with the quarterback 's ability to throw the football past five yards of the line of scrimmage and checking the ball down he is very capable of doing it the other way but is the play caller is the scheme it is the players able to...????​

 

[blueblood70]

No. It wasn't.

Not even close.

Actually it was it was as bad if not worse the wide open place they just basically ate up the clock scored I kept getting it back do the same thing rinse and repeat all phases were equally as bad if you're not willing to admit it nobody's gonna sit here and have this debate with you the defense was terrible the penalties alone what's sway the tie on who was worse.. They were boneheaded penalties mental mistakes that lack of execution they were being aggressive playing hero ball everybody all of a sudden got sack happy they want interceptions and they want sacks so they could be talked about on Monday.. We are seeing it I think we'd be better off with bell and Thomas than we are with Donovan Wilson cause he seems to have came back and now he's playing out of position trying to reinsert himself into the conversation as one of the big hitters and a guy that's gonna go get a fumble or an interception and and lots of guys are now playing like that on this defense instead of staying in their lanes and just doing their jobs...

We all are seeing it this happened in the middle of the season last year Prescott had to come back and put up over 30 points a game in order to keep us in games they were giving up 200 yards on the ground they were being beat very much like this there were guys that should not have been moving the ball and it's like in Houston and Indianapolis and at some point the giants and Daniel Jones..

I mean you remember the Justin fields game with Chicago and all the yards the defense gave up and we the offense had to pick them up? How about the Eagles game with a backup quarterback they were throwing and running all over us in the game that Prescott had to put up 40 points to win that football game I mean this is the same thing except for the offense has been changed and that's why we're complaining about it because we're playing conservative offense because we thought we were witnessing the development of a generational defense that if you just didn't make a mistake they would win you the game and all you had to do was move the ball score enough to win that's not this defense this defense is not living up to that expectation... So again, they're going to have to make changes in all three phases of this team and i say all three because we lost turpin/goodwin and now we're going to have to insert DV and make up for that..

this is not changed the whole team is playing bad and these two losses and when you admit it they were all equally as bad then we can just hope they all see the same thing and they need to have these meetings and get this fixed this is not a problem with just the offense.

at 3-2 seems like an overreaction a little early in the season but they need to reevaluate this whole team.. i don't think just subtle changes, like a lot of adjustment and maybe switching out some players. like i said i thought this defense looked better with bell and thomas versus Dono. not saying it's all his fault but theres something different than first snap that he came back. he's been overly aggressive and out of position...

 

[NickZepp]

When the phylosphy of other teams is to basically go at your best player and he is a non factor in the game. Bench that guy. It's pretty obvious number 11 shouldn't be in the NFL right now if he is being exposed this bad. Or your defensive coordinator sucks. Micah Parsons needs to look in the mirror and become a good NFL player or just quit. It's obvious he's not the player that he thinks he is.

 

[Established1971]

All the talk after the SFO loss has been about how bad Dak dnd MM are, but why isn’t there more talk about how bad the defense was? Even if the offense played well, they weren’t scoring 40 points that the defense gave up. Defense couldn’t stop nothing on Sunday night both run/pass and had so many penalties that extended drives. Where was the pass rush, where were the turnovers?

Defense was actually playing well in the first half. The offense couldnt stay on the field, when did they get their 2nd first down?

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

We'll see how the defense does against Herbert. And if it's during a game in which the offense can sustain more drives and score mores points to help keep the defense off of the field. If the defense still has problems stopping the Chargers offense, then it's a sign that they are as good as we believed them to be. I still think that there is a problem with them being too one sided and focused on the pass rush, yet not being able to stop teams who can run the ball well or OCs who can out scheme the Cowboys pass rush.

 

[visionary]

Yeah I still had hope at that point thinking we would make adjustments. But we did not. I saw Dez call them out on Twitter. He is Cowboys all the way and said I have to say it. They are predictable, they run everytime they are under center and pass when in shot gun. Every time they line up the opposing defense knows if it’s pass or run. Makes it really easy to play against. That and the routes on pass plays had all the receivers breaking at the same time. Lol.

Well, McCarthy has been working 20 hours a day. He doesnt know that when he comes out Dak will still be the QB

 

[Pass2Run]

Because the low hanging fruit is always easiest for people to reach.

Muh Dak. Muh Jerral Wayne.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

Our team played just like cards game. A few more turnovers. But was the same performance. They studied cards game. Run and pass at Parsons. And our Offense is predictable and easy.

All the teams have to do is get out in front of us. We can't win when we're playing from behind.