Why do people insist on cutting Dak?

[SteveTheCowboy]

There are some that believe if the plan is to start Trey why not cut Dak and commit. I say why? Why cut Dak? They are paying him any way.

He wants a new contract if it is with Dallas or any other team. He will be forced to play the best football of his life and I am not talking implementing the new scheme to get Lamb open. I am talking about spreading the ball around and putting this team on His back. (I do not believe he is capable of it but maybe he will surprise me) Win

If Dak comes out and lays an egg like he did to begin last season I think He gets the Hook. Even then he would make a great back up and if He does get His Job back. He will have incentive to play his heart out because no one is gonna pay a QB that can't keep his job

Keeping Dak even if the plan is to go with lance in a rebuild is a win win

Besides, all of these years of tears will be quenched watching Dak hold the clip board with a Poopy face

Ive said before....If we cant trade him, and want to give trey a go...benched.

If it goes on for very long....the ntc is waived. Several here say other teans would love to have him...so....

 

[Flamma]

There are some that believe if the plan is to start Trey why not cut Dak and commit. I say why? Why cut Dak? They are paying him any way.

He wants a new contract if it is with Dallas or any other team. He will be forced to play the best football of his life and I am not talking implementing the new scheme to get Lamb open. I am talking about spreading the ball around and putting this team on His back. (I do not believe he is capable of it but maybe he will surprise me) Win

If Dak comes out and lays an egg like he did to begin last season I think He gets the Hook. Even then he would make a great back up and if He does get His Job back. He will have incentive to play his heart out because no one is gonna pay a QB that can't keep his job

Keeping Dak even if the plan is to go with lance in a rebuild is a win win

Besides, all of these years of tears will be quenched watching Dak hold the clip board with a Poopy face

That's not how it works. Dak will not accept anything but top market value for a QB going forward for the Cowboys. Even if he lays another egg. Even non QBs play this game sometimes. Pay them, or they're willing to play for less someplace else.

 

[Whiskey Cowboy]

Chargers and Rams are beyond mind boggling which makes think Cowherd is possibly a jack

The Chargers, sure...unless Harbaugh doesn't like Herbert. I read yesterday that Stafford isn't happy with his contract. If the Rams don't feel like he's worth a pay raise, making a move isn't out of the ordinary for those guys.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

There are some that believe if the plan is to start Trey why not cut Dak and commit. I say why? Why cut Dak? They are paying him any way.

He wants a new contract if it is with Dallas or any other team. He will be forced to play the best football of his life and I am not talking implementing the new scheme to get Lamb open. I am talking about spreading the ball around and putting this team on His back. (I do not believe he is capable of it but maybe he will surprise me) Win

If Dak comes out and lays an egg like he did to begin last season I think He gets the Hook. Even then he would make a great back up and if He does get His Job back. He will have incentive to play his heart out because no one is gonna pay a QB that can't keep his job

Keeping Dak even if the plan is to go with lance in a rebuild is a win win

Besides, all of these years of tears will be quenched watching Dak hold the clip board with a Poopy face

To put it in the simplest of terms:

He sucks and is a bonafide loser. The loserness rubs off on others.

 

[TwentyOne]

There are some that believe if the plan is to start Trey why not cut Dak and commit. I say why? Why cut Dak? They are paying him any way.

He wants a new contract if it is with Dallas or any other team. He will be forced to play the best football of his life and I am not talking implementing the new scheme to get Lamb open. I am talking about spreading the ball around and putting this team on His back. (I do not believe he is capable of it but maybe he will surprise me) Win

If Dak comes out and lays an egg like he did to begin last season I think He gets the Hook. Even then he would make a great back up and if He does get His Job back. He will have incentive to play his heart out because no one is gonna pay a QB that can't keep his job

Keeping Dak even if the plan is to go with lance in a rebuild is a win win

Besides, all of these years of tears will be quenched watching Dak hold the clip board with a Poopy face

Everybody - doctors, community, research - told me that when i drink coca cola too much i will get fat and have health issues.
I drink coca cola now for 8 years and i have to admit exactly everything happend the way people told me: i have health issues and got fat.

But now coca cola is on the hook! i give it another year. If it does not change its behaviour i will get rid of it.

 

[CowboyoWales]

There are some that believe if the plan is to start Trey why not cut Dak and commit. I say why? Why cut Dak? They are paying him any way.

He wants a new contract if it is with Dallas or any other team. He will be forced to play the best football of his life and I am not talking implementing the new scheme to get Lamb open. I am talking about spreading the ball around and putting this team on His back. (I do not believe he is capable of it but maybe he will surprise me) Win

If Dak comes out and lays an egg like he did to begin last season I think He gets the Hook. Even then he would make a great back up and if He does get His Job back. He will have incentive to play his heart out because no one is gonna pay a QB that can't keep his job

Keeping Dak even if the plan is to go with lance in a rebuild is a win win

Besides, all of these years of tears will be quenched watching Dak hold the clip board with a Poopy face

Go through it logically and on what we suspect:
1) Dak isn't giving a 'home town discount'
2) Due to the schedule and lack of Free Agency improvement we aren't going Championship/SB.... we may get to a WC.
3) Dak is owed $29m in base salary.... which isn't a use of resources when looked at in combination with 1) and 2).
4) Cutting Dak suits everybody.
a) Jerry saves $29m
b) Dak gets a chance to prove himself away from a team that has holes.
c) We give the cheap option a chance, maybe we get a Dak of 2016 or a Quincy Carter.
d) If its Quincy .....we get a good draft pick position.
e) we have the option....To Pre-June Cut Dak (I think), which means we don't pay the $29m and COULD clear his whole CAP hit ($66m) in 2024 (by restructuring just $11m maybe Diggs/Steele+).
5) There's a chance that once Dak's seen the grass isn't greener and/or Jerry (after saving his $29m) says... I miss you Dak, I need you Dak and now I can pay you with the $29m saving. Or the opposite may be true and dodge a bullet
6) So for one year loss of Dak, we totally right the CAP ship.
7) None of this happens as Jerry doesn't have the imagination or looks at contract in anything other than an incremental process. ITS A JOKE THAT HE WAS THE CAP CHAMPION BUT FAILS IN BEING ABLE TO MANOEURE AROUND IT (and contracts in general).

 

[CowboyoWales]

Letting Him play out the season ks better then cutting him in my opinion. Why do you think Cutting him is wise? That only serves Dak not Jerry

Jerry could keep Dak on the bench all year and it would not hurt the Chemistry of this team. In fact it may make them rally together under Lance

Sorry for previous post....abridged version. Cutting Dak means he loses money as no team is paying him $29m in 2024 (and Dak's not giving any home town discount).

 

[CWR]

Everybody - doctors, community, research - told me that when i drink coca cola too much i will get fat and have health issues.
I drink coca cola now for 8 years and i have to admit exactly everything happend the way people told me: i have health issues and got fat.

But now coca cola is on the hook! i give it another year. If it does not change its behaviour i will get rid of it.

Or it could also be all the Mcdoubles you're pounding down. I'm ready to move forward but I can only let the qb shoulder so much of the blame. No run game and no run defense in the playoffs is a death sentence.

 

[CowboyoWales]

That's not how it works. Dak will not accept anything but top market value for a QB going forward for the Cowboys. Even if he lays another egg. Even non QBs play this game sometimes. Pay them, or they're willing to play for less someplace else.

Yep, that's the crux of the matter....I'm sure Jerry had this somewhat utopian idea that Dak would give a 'loyalty' bonus (possibly based on the last concession on contract). This concession may have been length of contract.
...
But it's not happening, therefore if we're not going top market value there's no real point in keeping him on $29m (with an inferior roster to last year).
Let's revisit in 2025, after Dak gets exposed in another team. At least make Dak/France uncomfortable playing on a new team (and losing money to boot).
Question, if Dak's cut, which teams would be able to: a) afford him (and, how much?) b) give him a roster that'll showcase his abilities?

 

[Flamma]

Yep, that's the crux of the matter....I'm sure Jerry had this somewhat utopian idea that Dak would give a 'loyalty' bonus (possibly based on the last concession on contract). This concession may have been length of contract.
...
But it's not happening, therefore if we're not going top market value there's no real point in keeping him on $29m (with an inferior roster to last year).
Let's revisit in 2025, after Dak gets exposed in another team. At least make Dak/France uncomfortable playing on a new team (and losing money to boot).
Question, if Dak's cut, which teams would be able to: a) afford him (and, how much?) b) give him a roster that'll showcase his abilities?

Good question. He'll get paid. We saw this with Cousins and his 100 million guarantee. Some team will pay him to be good, not great. That's all they care about. A good QB that can make the playoffs.

 

[CowboyoWales]

Good question. He'll get paid. We saw this with Cousins and his 100 million guarantee. Some team will pay him to be good, not great. That's all they care about. A good QB that can make the playoffs.

I just wonder, if we cut him, who does he play for in 2024 and how much money would he lose. I'm assuming he misses out of the $29m salary and whilst there will be teams that would play him, possibly the best fit is the Raiders....but they don't have the CAP, nor the competition (from middling/competing teams) to force them to pay anywhere near $29m.

 

[Coogiguy03]

There are some that believe if the plan is to start Trey why not cut Dak and commit. I say why? Why cut Dak? They are paying him any way.

He wants a new contract if it is with Dallas or any other team. He will be forced to play the best football of his life and I am not talking implementing the new scheme to get Lamb open. I am talking about spreading the ball around and putting this team on His back. (I do not believe he is capable of it but maybe he will surprise me) Win

If Dak comes out and lays an egg like he did to begin last season I think He gets the Hook. Even then he would make a great back up and if He does get His Job back. He will have incentive to play his heart out because no one is gonna pay a QB that can't keep his job

Keeping Dak even if the plan is to go with lance in a rebuild is a win win

Besides, all of these years of tears will be quenched watching Dak hold the clip board with a Poopy face

he can come out and lay eggs all he wants, eventually he'll go on a run where he's HOT and that'll then make Jerry and Stephen get with his agent to lock him up for 400 million

 

[Coogiguy03]

Because it’s not just about the cap space right now. The longer you hold onto him, the more and more likely it becomes that Dak sticks around for the longterm.

Every day is an inch closer to the inevitability that ground hog’s day continues.

400 million deal lol !!

 

[Streifenkarl]

Im one of the biggest Dak bashers on this site, but my point is directed at the investment this franchise has made, no more excuses Dakster, we just gave you an entire second for evaluation possibly.

How so? The new guys on the O line are rookies. We lost a really good tackle (when healthy) and Martin isn't getting any younger.

So where will that extra second come from I ask? Dak will have to run for his life alot more often this season.

 

[Blitzen]

There are some that believe if the plan is to start Trey why not cut Dak and commit. I say why? Why cut Dak? They are paying him any way.

He wants a new contract if it is with Dallas or any other team. He will be forced to play the best football of his life and I am not talking implementing the new scheme to get Lamb open. I am talking about spreading the ball around and putting this team on His back. (I do not believe he is capable of it but maybe he will surprise me) Win

If Dak comes out and lays an egg like he did to begin last season I think He gets the Hook. Even then he would make a great back up and if He does get His Job back. He will have incentive to play his heart out because no one is gonna pay a QB that can't keep his job

Keeping Dak even if the plan is to go with lance in a rebuild is a win win

Besides, all of these years of tears will be quenched watching Dak hold the clip board with a Poopy face

The preference would be to flip Dak for a 1st or 2nd round pick if they intend to move on after this season anyway. However, those deals are difficult to pull off no matter what. The Jets took a long time to come to terms with Green Bay (and that was for Rodgers). If no trade is available, you take the 3rd compensatory-which is why they would never cut him

 

[iceberg]

Ive said before....If we cant trade him, and want to give trey a go...benched.

If it goes on for very long....the ntc is waived. Several here say other teans would love to have him...so....

this is where i am. yea, i get the fact you're benching $40 mil give or take, but if you're moving on and eating the $, what difference does it make? sit his hiney down or hand him a clipboard and if he does sit for a year doing NOTHING, his value is a huge question mark going into FA.

do dak and company really want that risk? it will be used against them when they look for a new team.

"wow - the cowboys would rather eat the money than play you - what the hell"???

true or not doesn't matter. its another bargaining tool and that's all anything really is in the end. and its a big one.

 

[leeblair]

There are some that believe if the plan is to start Trey why not cut Dak and commit. I say why? Why cut Dak? They are paying him any way.

He wants a new contract if it is with Dallas or any other team. He will be forced to play the best football of his life and I am not talking implementing the new scheme to get Lamb open. I am talking about spreading the ball around and putting this team on His back. (I do not believe he is capable of it but maybe he will surprise me) Win

If Dak comes out and lays an egg like he did to begin last season I think He gets the Hook. Even then he would make a great back up and if He does get His Job back. He will have incentive to play his heart out because no one is gonna pay a QB that can't keep his job

Keeping Dak even if the plan is to go with lance in a rebuild is a win win

Besides, all of these years of tears will be quenched watching Dak hold the clip board with a Poopy face

Dak is a waste of a precious roster spot.

 

[4lifecowboy]

It isn't so much Dak as a player for me, it is the amount of cap space he demands. He isn't worth it, he's not good enough to carry a team period. It is just better business to find a replacement at a fraction of the cost. We are not winning with him now, we darn sure are not going to win with less talent around him. Reset the cap, is the best option.

 

[Irvin88_4life]

If Dak isn't in the Jones plan to stay at QB they should have traded him.

 

[TheSport78]

To put it in the simplest of terms:

He sucks and is a bonafide loser. The loserness rubs off on others.

He knows he's a loser too. One of the most insecure people I've seen play at the professional level.