CFZ Why do people keep saying Dak has to play great 4 straight games in the playoffs?

[HungryLion]

I'm not concerned with other teams QB

My concern is with the cowboys situation

And he demanded market value for an elite QB

Again the playoffs is where you earn that distinction

Nobody on our defense is making "elite" money. Why should they be held to a higher standard than Dak?

I have to disagree. Dak didn’t get paid “elite QB” money. He got paid “franchise QB” money.

there is a distinction.


Look at some of the guys making just as much or more than he is. Kyler Murray. Russell Wilson who fell off a cliff. Deshaun Watson, Kirk cousins, Derek Carr, etc.


The truth is. Due to the nature of the QB position and how hard it is to find even good ones, let alone elite. Good QB’s get paid almost as much as elite QB’s

 

[Cowpolk]

I dont think they play 4 games ea 3

 

[nobody]

How many QBs have had 4 straight perfect games in the playoffs. People need to accept that playoff defenses are typically badasses. Qbs almost never got to town in every game in the playoffs. Some completely poop the bed but get bailed out by other aspects of their team. Anybody remember Ruthlessraper's 27 passer rating in his first Super Bowl win? How about Brady's INTs on three consecutive possessions in the NFC Championship two years ago? Or better yet is 71 passer rating performance against the Rams in 2018? Or how about his classic 150 yard "masterpiece" in his first Super Bowl agaisnt the Rams? Or maybe Mahomes 78 passer rating with 2 INT performance against the 49ers while WINNING the Super Bowl?

I really wish people would move off this whole "This QB can carry his team" kick. It's just not true and I'm really getting tired of hearing it. Nobody is carrying 47 other guys. I really get sick of the media constantly foisting this brain dead narrative upon us. Yes the QB is the most important player on the team.. I get that.. but he aint winnin jack without some help. It's disrespectful to those 47 other guys to keep acting like they play no part in their teams' fortunes.

At the end of the day the Cowboys TEAM will need to play 4 straight great games to win it all. Dak is part of that team.. however he alone will not win or lose any game. Why is that such a hard reality for some to accept?

Our O-line needs to stop turning into tissue player every time it makes the playoffs. Our Defense needs to remember that it's job is to stop opponents from getting touchdowns in the playoffs instead of crying out "Ole!" and dodging opponents, letting them score at will.

 

[JayFord]

idc how he play

if him throwing 4 picks per game gets us to the uberbowl then fine

 

[links18]

Have you seen our defense lately? If they don't start improving, Dak will need to post 4 straight 45 burgers in the playoffs to win a championship.

 

[Wangchung83]

Stafford last year wasn't elite in the SB, defense got that ball back, b2b possessions to get them, the opportunity to come back and win after he threw 2 INTs.. TEAM Game my man

Check that salary for the defense and I bet it wasn’t the 28th paid defense on the salary cap. Check how many defenses were invested in with 28th ranked money that have won the Super Bowl, you will find no one with our salary cap discrepancy. We paid for a QB that isn’t elite bc he needs all those offensive weapons, rather than be elite and elevate lower paid players where that money goes to even out the pay scale to get that elite defense. Defense plays poorly, still on Dak bc he took that money which was his choice. I demand 40pts a game with or without turnovers; if this isn’t possible then it’s on him as he has everything he needs. The defense is down multiple players

 

[RonnieT24]

When the Bucs won the Super Bowl in 2020 nobody remembered that Brady threw three consecutive 4th quarter INT's in the NFC championship game and was bailed out big time by their defense.

I remember.

 

[RonnieT24]

To what end? You'll really show them!

I don't have anyone on auto ignore.

Why don't you just post in those threads....you claim are so pervasive and burdening? Should be ample opportunity to change their minds.
Make fools of them . Or whatever it is you are trying to accomplish.

I enjoy trolling the trolls from time to time.. Sue me..

 

[bottleKids]

Who’s saying this? I surely hope you are not wasting your time watching those day shows where guys who have never touched a football or a too concussed ex lineman talk about the QB position.

No one is saying this .. he is setting up for his idol to let us down. He is one of the biggest Dak gobblers on this site.

 

[CowboysExchange]

How many QBs have had 4 straight perfect games in the playoffs. People need to accept that playoff defenses are typically badasses. Qbs almost never got to town in every game in the playoffs. Some completely poop the bed but get bailed out by other aspects of their team. Anybody remember Ruthlessraper's 27 passer rating in his first Super Bowl win? How about Brady's INTs on three consecutive possessions in the NFC Championship two years ago? Or better yet is 71 passer rating performance against the Rams in 2018? Or how about his classic 150 yard "masterpiece" in his first Super Bowl agaisnt the Rams? Or maybe Mahomes 78 passer rating with 2 INT performance against the 49ers while WINNING the Super Bowl?

I really wish people would move off this whole "This QB can carry his team" kick. It's just not true and I'm really getting tired of hearing it. Nobody is carrying 47 other guys. I really get sick of the media constantly foisting this brain dead narrative upon us. Yes the QB is the most important player on the team.. I get that.. but he aint winnin jack without some help. It's disrespectful to those 47 other guys to keep acting like they play no part in their teams' fortunes.

At the end of the day the Cowboys TEAM will need to play 4 straight great games to win it all. Dak is part of that team.. however he alone will not win or lose any game. Why is that such a hard reality for some to accept?

Because Zeke is Avg 38 yards and 0 tds per game in our last 2 playoff games. Woohoo

And we haven't won a road playoff game since 1992

0-8 Record over a 30 year span

 

[RonnieT24]

Because Zeke is Avg 38 yards and 0 tds per game in our last 2 playoff games. Woohoo

And we haven't won a road playoff game since 1992

0-8 Record over a 30 year span

The Cowboys are due to break out of this slump.

Nothing lasts forever but the Earth and sky...

If they can get Hankins and LVE back for the playoffs and Bland and Wright continue to be solid the defense has a chance to get back at least in the neighborhood of where it was the first half of the season. Banging on Zeke because our line got its collectives arse handed to it the last two playoff games is childish. No backs can run without blocking. Remember how spectacular Pollard looked running the ball on Saturday? Yeah.. me neither.. The Eagles front whipped our line more often than not. They got 6 sacks and 9 QB hits. They had 3 TFLs all against Pollard.. none against Zeke.. Games when the defensive front is as good or better than our offensive line is when Zeke becomes important.. Pollard can light up the Green Bays and Detroits of the world.. But against Philly, Washington and Tampa.. he has been slightly underwhelming. As a runner that is. Moore has finally figured out that when he's not getting anything on the ground to use him in the passing game. That allows him to continue to make plays.

Look at it this way.. If Pollard got 20 carries Saturday.. he would have finished with around 42 yards. Now he may have busted loose for one long one and helped his average.. but there is no guarantee of that.. And one long run doesn't make up for a bunch of 2nd and 11 or 12s. You can beat the "get rid of Zeke" drum till the cows come home. This team needs him.. and they know they need him. They also need TP.. but for different reasons.. The beauty is that they have them both.. and as long as they keep using them both the right way they will keep winning.

 

[CowboysExchange]

The Cowboys are due to break out of this slump.

Nothing lasts forever but the Earth and sky...

If they can get Hankins and LVE back for the playoffs and Bland and Wright continue to be solid the defense has a chance to get back at least in the neighborhood of where it was the first half of the season. Banging on Zeke because our line got its collectives arse handed to it the last two playoff games is childish. No backs can run without blocking. Remember how spectacular Pollard looked running the ball on Saturday? Yeah.. me neither.. The Eagles front whipped our line more often than not. They got 6 sacks and 9 QB hits. They had 3 TFLs all against Pollard.. none against Zeke.. Games when the defensive front is as good or better than our offensive line is when Zeke becomes important.. Pollard can light up the Green Bays and Detroits of the world.. But against Philly, Washington and Tampa.. he has been slightly underwhelming. As a runner that is. Moore has finally figured out that when he's not getting anything on the ground to use him in the passing game. That allows him to continue to make plays.

Look at it this way.. If Pollard got 20 carries Saturday.. he would have finished with around 42 yards. Now he may have busted loose for one long one and helped his average.. but there is no guarantee of that.. And one long run doesn't make up for a bunch of 2nd and 11 or 12s. You can beat the "get rid of Zeke" drum till the cows come home. This team needs him.. and they know they need him. They also need TP.. but for different reasons.. The beauty is that they have them both.. and as long as they keep using them both the right way they will keep winning.

we're throwing all those Checkdowns to our best player Pollard and not to our worst player in Schultz'kowski

It only took us 20 years to figure out that that Witten'ball scheme was trash though.

Ya never know when Jerrah is gonna revert back to it though. He may be saving it for the playoffs urgh

Mr 1 playoff TD hof'er.

He may dial up Schultz'kowskis number again this year.

Let's pray that we've learned our lesson.

 

[CowboysExchange]

I guarantee ya if we woulda kept Cooper, drafted Breece Hall or Kenneth Walker Jr, and Jelani woods like I said we woulda had a contender

When they stop the run and they will and your entire offensive scheme is built off a run first strategy you better find a way to pass the ball and hope it's not to a SLOW WASHED UP RB whose avg pass play is only 5 yards per catch js

The NFL is predicated upon making big chunk plays not just dinking and dunking with a bunch of possession wrs and rinky dink runs.

 

[CowboysExchange]

The team that cant make those big chunk plays consistently enough are Not gonna win that many playoff games.

You gotta get the ball into the guys hands that can make those big chunk plays that have the highest probability of scoring from anywhere on the field.

I'll take Pollard over anybody else on this team.

At least when he does get a hole to run through or gets the ball in the open field he's a proven commodity that can GO ALL THE WAY!!

CeeDee can, Pollard can, and Cooper could consistently

But these other skilled players are just 3 TD a year players who CANT

 

[CowboysExchange]

The Cowboys are due to break out of this slump.

Nothing lasts forever but the Earth and sky...

If they can get Hankins and LVE back for the playoffs and Bland and Wright continue to be solid the defense has a chance to get back at least in the neighborhood of where it was the first half of the season. Banging on Zeke because our line got its collectives arse handed to it the last two playoff games is childish. No backs can run without blocking. Remember how spectacular Pollard looked running the ball on Saturday? Yeah.. me neither.. The Eagles front whipped our line more often than not. They got 6 sacks and 9 QB hits. They had 3 TFLs all against Pollard.. none against Zeke.. Games when the defensive front is as good or better than our offensive line is when Zeke becomes important.. Pollard can light up the Green Bays and Detroits of the world.. But against Philly, Washington and Tampa.. he has been slightly underwhelming. As a runner that is. Moore has finally figured out that when he's not getting anything on the ground to use him in the passing game. That allows him to continue to make plays.

Look at it this way.. If Pollard got 20 carries Saturday.. he would have finished with around 42 yards. Now he may have busted loose for one long one and helped his average.. but there is no guarantee of that.. And one long run doesn't make up for a bunch of 2nd and 11 or 12s. You can beat the "get rid of Zeke" drum till the cows come home. This team needs him.. and they know they need him. They also need TP.. but for different reasons.. The beauty is that they have them both.. and as long as they keep using them both the right way they will keep winning.

Yeah if there is no hole to run through both rbs stink.

But if a hole does present itself one of those rbs can go 99 yards and one is limited to 23 yards max

I'll take those 2 yard avgs vs 3 yard avgs and pass on 3rd and 6 everytime.

I don't want to miss the home runs chasing after singles

But if all I need is a single I'll give it to the 3 yard avg guy.

That's your goal line theory in reverse btw

 

[triplets_93]

We're looking for Dak to play at least one great playoff game.
Once he's done that, then other expectations can be considered.
It's really that simple, isn't it!!

 

[BoysForLife]

I have to disagree. Dak didn’t get paid “elite QB” money. He got paid “franchise QB” money.

there is a distinction.


Look at some of the guys making just as much or more than he is. Kyler Murray. Russell Wilson who fell off a cliff. Deshaun Watson, Kirk cousins, Derek Carr, etc.


The truth is. Due to the nature of the QB position and how hard it is to find even good ones, let alone elite. Good QB’s get paid almost as much as elite QB’s

at the time he signed his contract, I think he was making top to money in the NFL.

if I'm wrong, I apologize but I believe he was either highest paid, or #2 at the time he signed the deal.

even if it was top 3 or 4
that's still "elite" in my book. I agree with you on those other guys. But that's their teams problem. I'm not concerned with what other QB's are making because it doesn't affect the Cowboys. And frankly, I'm not concerned with the Cowboys QB making top dog money if he's top of the heap.

but the OP asked why people expect Dak to perform at a near flawless level in the playoffs.
my answer is still the same, because he's getting paid at a level that is top of the heap, therefore the burden and level of expectation on him is higher. Just my $.02

 

[jgboys1]

I don't know about great games but I do hope he has good games without too many turnovers. That is all any reasonable fan can ask for.

 

[blueblood70]

Check that salary for the defense and I bet it wasn’t the 28th paid defense on the salary cap. Check how many defenses were invested in with 28th ranked money that have won the Super Bowl, you will find no one with our salary cap discrepancy. We paid for a QB that isn’t elite bc he needs all those offensive weapons, rather than be elite and elevate lower paid players where that money goes to even out the pay scale to get that elite defense. Defense plays poorly, still on Dak bc he took that money which was his choice. I demand 40pts a game with or without turnovers; if this isn’t possible then it’s on him as he has everything he needs. The defense is down multiple players

wrong sorry not debating with you, my times valuable and your evaluating is wrong many teams are in similar situations and this is a waste of time for me to discuss further., ON HIM is hater talk and total troll statement that's why, i will no longer see your responses. bye

 

[foofighters]

Dude what are you talking about? I was replying to this.

There’s tons of haters like you who do NOTHING but crap on the QB and you have the gall to say “Who’s saying this?”

LOL. I knew it. I knew you wouldn't read what I said. I'll challenge you with this (even though I know you wont because it's too easy {and lazy} for you to just throw out the term "hater" when there is no hating going on.): Go back and see where I was hating. Post it here. Where was I acting like the trolls/haters here. You really wont find much because I don't hate Dak. Does he need to improve? Yes. Is he good enough to win it all as he is right now? You bet he is. Would a hater say that? No. But its just too easy for you to call someone a hater versus bringing up actual football talking points to further your position. Like I said earlier, on other parts of this team you actually make good points but with Dak, there is no reasoning with you. You are a hater @Rockport. You're blind hatred of the haters has clouded your thinking. Just own it.