Why do you hate Henson?

[sillycon]

Saying Henson had the talent to play baseball professionally is like saying Rick Mirer had the talent to play football professionally. It means nothing. When the going got hard for him, he ducked out and conviently claimed a change in heart. You think the Yankees were going to keep paying him that guaranteed contract to hit barely above .200?

Baseball contracts are different from football contracts. The money in baseball contracts is guaranteed unlike football contracts where a team isn't liable for the rest of the contract if they release you...

 

[iceberg]

speculation never helps an argument

no but it sure causes quite a few.

 

[Cochese]

speculation

Right, because the Yankees would pay him when he was hitting below the Mendoza line, the Yankees starting 3rd basemen was hurt but they got someone else to play instead. They werent going to give a AA ball player the $12 million left on his contract. Henson diddnt walk away from any guaranteed money. He would not have been around for much longer if he continued hitting below .200.

 

[Cochese]

Baseball contracts are different from football contracts. The money in baseball contracts is guaranteed unlike football contracts where a team isn't liable for the rest of the contract if they release you...

Contract buyouts happen quite frequently.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Right, because the Yankees would pay him when he was hitting below the Mendoza line, the Yankees starting 3rd basemen was hurt but they got someone else to play instead. They werent going to give a AA ball player the $12 million left on his contract. Henson diddnt walk away from any guaranteed money. He would not have been around for much longer if he continued hitting below .200.

still speculation, you know, teams usually wait around for great talents...

 

[Bob Sacamano]

no but it sure causes quite a few.

ok...and...your point is...?

 

[JackMagist]

I don't hate Henson and I don't think he has failed. He may not have succeeded yet and he may never succeed but I don't see how anyone can say he has already failed when he has not really played. Last year in TC he did not look good while struggling with his reworked mechanics but he looks like he may be over that hurdle.

Now we need to see how he looks against NFL caliber competition. Of course if he lights it up in preseason there will be some here who will decry his competition anyway saying that he is playing against scrubs and second teamers at best...regardless of whether or not it is true. Some will never be convinced until he wins multiple Superbowls and MVPs and likely will not give him credit for those successes.

 

[Cochese]

still speculation, you know, teams usually wait around for great talents...

Yea, great talents hit below .200 in AAA, and strike out in almost one out of every three at bats.

 

[JackMagist]

Yea, great talents hit below .200 in AAA, and strike out in almost one out of every three at bats.

Whoa...I must have clicked on the wrong thread...I thought we were talking about football.

 

[sillycon]

Contract buyouts happen quite frequently.

The point is that even if he stunk up the joint in baseball (which he did), the Yankees are obligated to pay him for the entire contract. Sure, they could offer him a buyout but it doesn't mean he has to accept it.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Yea, great talents hit below .200 in AAA, and strike out in almost one out of every three at bats.

to make it to the professional level, you have to be a great talent, to be able to play at 2 professional levels, you have to be a great talent, to say Henson isn't a great talent, is well...stupid

 

[Cochese]

The point is that even if he stunk up the joint in baseball (which he did), the Yankees are obligated to pay him for the entire contract. Sure, they could offer him a buyout but it doesn't mean he has to accept it.

Listen closely. Each buyout is negiotiated specifically in each contract, and in many cases the players do not get their entire contract when cut. Frank Thomas was due 10 million this season and was bought out at 3.5.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Whoa...I must have clicked on the wrong thread...I thought we were talking about football.

well the poll is asking why "you hate Henson" :

 

[Cochese]

to make it to the professional level, you have to be a great talent, to be able to play at 2 professional levels, you have to be a great talent, to say Henson isn't a great talent, is well...stupid

Chad Hutchinson must be a god to you then. Hell he made the MLB, and started quite a few games in the NFL.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Listen closely. Each buyout is negiotiated specifically in each contract, and in many cases the players do not get their entire contract when cut. Frank Thomas was due 10 million this season and was bought out at 3.5.

but Henson didn't have to accept it, from all indications it was a mutual parting between Thomas and the Sox

 

[Cochese]

but Henson didn't have to accept it, from all indications it was a mutual parting between Thomas and the Sox

No, it wasnt. You must have missed Frank whining about how unfairly he was treated. Frank wanted to be back. The team diddnt want him back, and bought him out. Happens all the time, folks.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Chad Hutchinson must be a god to you then. Hell he made the MLB, and started quite a few games in the NFL.

Hutchinson was a great talent, just not in his head, he couldn't feel a rush if his life depended on hit, again, it's a stupid assertion to make saying Henson isn't a great talent, there's a difference between talent and performance, he had the talent to play baseball, just not the performance, same as in the NFL, but he's making up for it in NFLE

 

[Cochese]

Chad Hutchinson is not a great talent. Troy Aikman, John Elway was a great talent. Hutchinson sucks. Sucked at baseball, sucked at football.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

No, it wasnt. You must have missed Frank whining about how unfairly he was treated. Frank wanted to be back. The team diddnt want him back, and bought him out. Happens all the time, folks.

ok, but does that mean it was going to happen?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Chad Hutchinson is not a great talent. Troy Aikman, John Elway was a great talent. Hutchinson sucks. Sucked at baseball, sucked at football.

ok, that doesn't mean he wasn't talented, Mike Mamula sucked in the NFL, but he was one of the most physically gifted athletes ever, and by NFL people's accounts, Henson is very talented, you have nothing