Why I feel it is Zeke or bust

[ChooChoo73]

Yes. When you draft players you get them for more than one year. I'd say this is probably McFaddens last season here and besides, I think the cream will rise to top and Elliot would be the #1 back sooner than later.

Fair point. However, that seems to fly a bit in the face of Zeke the best fit to help win now as many have stated. I believe given Garrett's actions that he will make sure they all get their carries. I am on record as stating when we acquired Morris that McFadden won't be here but I think Mortis will get his carries. I also think when Dunbar is ready that there will be carries for him too.

 

[Romotil45]

Fair point. However, that seems to fly a bit in the face of Zeke the best fit to help win now as many have stated. I believe given Garrett's actions that he will make sure they all get their carries. I am on record as stating when we acquired Morris that McFadden won't be here but I think Mortis will get his carries. I also think when Dunbar is ready that there will be carries for him too.

Agreed regardless who we go into the season with they will most likely all see some time. McFadden is in a contract year and should see the majority of the carries IMO.

 

[waving monkey]

If you have found ratings that place him going top five in the draft why not post them ? I can post ALOT of places where he is rated between 7-15 range you will get no argument from me there. But he WILL NOT be BPA at 4. It's just not going to happen. All the wishful thinking in the world will not make it come true.

I've seen ratings that high but more to my point is his a high value guy that would be
possibly the most impactful pick we could make for the remaining Romo years.

You can validly make a conflicting argument cause there are certainly some fine players to be had.
This is a difficult draft with warts running amok Zeek has few

 

[DTown214]

If he turns out to be a great player, who cares where he was drafted. Some people are putting too much emphasis on value. But, you don't know value until they play the game in the NFL...and by then, no one cares where he's drafted....LOL!

Exactly. It shouldn't matter where a player is projected to go. If we think Elliott can be the next Adrian Peterson, you gotta just take him. Just because he's projected to go in the 8-12 range shouldn't affect our willingness to take him at number 4 at all.

 

[Romotil45]

Exactly. It shouldn't matter where a player is projected to go. If we think Elliott can be the next Adrian Peterson, you gotta just take him. Just because he's projected to go in the 8-12 range shouldn't affect our willingness to take him at number 4 at all.

Who thinks Zeke is the next AP. That would be about 0 analysts. Zeke is not AP not even close.

 

[JoeKing]

in some years you would be right, but the draft isnt like a home depot store, it is more like a flea mkt.
You dont have great players in every position every year, and some years , there might not be any good ones
for some positions.
What is there is what you have to choose from.
If RB position is the only position to have a great player, then you should take him.
Taking a player at 4 doesnt make him great , they have to actually be great !

If we take a QB, he could easily be a flop or bust, same for some of the others, or just not all that good.

I havent seen enough of EE to know how good he might be so I cant say for sure, but people say
he does all things good.
and he has good speed,

Also our best shot at a SB is the next 2 years, and we need the strongest run game we can have,

Heck I would get elliot, then get henry, Then see if anyone could stop our offense.
The better the offense is the better our defense will be .

That's certainly one man's opinion.

 

[JoeKing]

It's the name that folks get caught up with. The "Zeke or bust" plan with the #4 pick is foolish. The 4th overall pick is better spent on defense.

 

[AsthmaField]

Exactly. It shouldn't matter where a player is projected to go. If we think Elliott can be the next Adrian Peterson, you gotta just take him. Just because he's projected to go in the 8-12 range shouldn't affect our willingness to take him at number 4 at all.

I agree. And Elliott being projected to go in the 8-12 range doesn't mean that he is there as a prospect. Many analysts say he is a better prospect than that but pick him to go there because of the NFL's devaluing of the RB position.

I have seen plenty of them say he is the 3rd, 4th, 5th best prospect but will be drafted later.

 

[DCowboyz]

I mean if Ramsey is gone, Zeke would be BPA. Unless we trade down a few spots because we aren't drafting OL again. And then draft Zeke. If we don't get any trade offers.. I don't think Jerry will pass on a RB that could be a star in the making. Then again, I could see Jerry passing on a RB.

 

[Romotil45]

It's the name that folks get caught up with. The "Zeke or bust" plan with the #4 pick is foolish. The 4th overall pick is better spent on defense.

They all believe Zeke will waltz into the league and get 20-25 carries a game and 1800-2000 yrds. It's not going to happen. At best as a rookie I project Zeke gets about the same production as Gurley did last year about 230 carries or 15 carries a game and about 1100 yrds which is very good but McFadden put up 1000 last year but they just can't understand it.

 

[Romotil45]

I agree. And Elliott being projected to go in the 8-12 range doesn't mean that he is there as a prospect. Many analysts say he is a better prospect than that but pick him to go there because of the NFL's devaluing of the RB position.

I have seen plenty of them say he is the 3rd, 4th, 5th best prospect but will be drafted later.

Thats not what I have heard I have heard about 3 say he is a top five prospect and 50 say he is a 7-15 prospect.

 

[Romotil45]

I mean if Ramsey is gone, Zeke would be BPA. Unless we trade down a few spots because we aren't drafting OL again. And then draft Zeke. If we don't get any trade offers.. I don't think Jerry will pass on a RB that could be a star in the making. Then again, I could see Jerry passing on a RB.

There is no way Zeke is BPA at 4. Just not going to happen. Zeke is not going at 4.

 

[AsthmaField]

Thats not what I have heard I have heard about 3 say he is a top five prospect and 50 say he is a 7-15 prospect.

Plenty have him going 7-15 but that doesn't mean they think he's the 7th-15th best prospect (although I'm sure some do).

It isn't a big enough deal for me to argue with another Cowboy fan who only wants the team to improve. I know I've read in several places where he is around the 4th best prospect but I'm not going to go search around to come post it. Besides, maybe you're correct in that more analysts have him around 7-15 than 4-6 because I haven't been counting.

Speaking for myself though... I'd be fine with him at 4 if the team likes him that much.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

The Front Office doesn't think Elliot is the next Peterson or Gurley. Which is the consensus as well.

 

[AsthmaField]

The Front Office doesn't think Elliot is the next Peterson or Gurley. Which is the consensus as well.

Not being a wise guy... not to a good member like you... but I just haven't heard/read that anywhere. Where did you see that?

 

[Romotil45]

Plenty have him going 7-15 but that doesn't mean they think he's the 7th-15th best prospect (although I'm sure some do).

It isn't a big enough deal for me to argue with another Cowboy fan who only wants the team to improve. I know I've read in several places where he is around the 4th best prospect but I'm not going to go search around to come post it. Besides, maybe you're correct in that more analysts have him around 7-15 than 4-6 because I haven't been counting.

Speaking for myself though... I'd be fine with him at 4 if the team likes him that much.

I like Zeke too but not at 4. We would be the laughingstock if we took Zeke at 4. I am aware of the fact that a handful of analysis believe Zeke is a better prospect than what he will go in the draft but NONE have argued that he is a top two non QB prospect. Which is what he would have to be to be BPA at 4.

 

[mattjames2010]

I mean if Ramsey is gone, Zeke would be BPA. Unless we trade down a few spots because we aren't drafting OL again. And then draft Zeke. If we don't get any trade offers.. I don't think Jerry will pass on a RB that could be a star in the making. Then again, I could see Jerry passing on a RB.

 

[AsthmaField]

I like Zeke too but not at 4. We would be the laughingstock if we took Zeke at 4. I am aware of the fact that a handful of analysis believe Zeke is a better prospect than what he will go in the draft but NONE have argued that he is a top two non QB prospect. Which is what he would have to be to be BPA at 4.

Fair enough. We'll all know pretty soon (thank God) anyway.

 

[Romotil45]

I mean if Ramsey is gone, Zeke would be BPA. Unless we trade down a few spots because we aren't drafting OL again. And then draft Zeke. If we don't get any trade offers.. I don't think Jerry will pass on a RB that could be a star in the making. Then again, I could see Jerry passing on a RB.

Yeah you bet Jerry would pass on a RB at 4 here's why Taking Zeke at four would make us a laughingstock of the league. #4 guaranteed money last year was like 26 mil so we are going to pay a guy 26 mil or more upfront before he has one carry in the league. When you can get similar production for .5-1.5 mil guaranteed and 1.5 a year. Look at McFadden's contract look at Morris' contract. McFadden rushed for 1000 yrds last yr and cost us .4 mil guaranteed and 1.5 mil a year. Todd Gurly at 10 got 9 mil guaranteed. It's like buying a new car. The rams bought a new car and had to obsorb the deprecation costs. We bought McFadden the used car at a substantial savings and they had about the same production.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Who thinks Zeke is the next AP. That would be about 0 analysts. Zeke is not AP not even close.

Who cares, all he has to be is himself. Can't compare.