Why is Dak refusing to give the cowboys a discount? Mahomes did!

[basel90]

That's part of the reason i say the tag will be pointless tbh. Dallas isn't going to be in contention next year (still 2-3 years away most likely 3). So either sign him long term or Tag him to trade him.

But I could totally understand the tag one more time if theyre worried about his play and health after the Injury. I'm sure we all are on that one.

Very true . If he plays bad on the tag jerry can have him walk without any regrets . I think this could be jerry or stephens strategy : seeing what they have in dak after the injury .

 

[USArmyVet]

Dude, he's still playing on his rookie contract. The new deal doesn't start until 2022. Lets see how many he wins when his new contract actually kicks in. Again, it starts in 2022.

As for my reference of it being a great deal, Mahomes was rewarded for winning a Super Bowl and subsequently brought KC to another Super Bowl this year......so YES, it's a great deal. Tell me what Dak has done to be rewarded???????


Mahomes Cap Hit & Dead Money by Year

2021 $24.8M Cap Hit $59.6M Dead Money

2022 $31.45M Cap Hit $34.9M Dead Money

2023 $42.45M Cap HIt $4M Dead MOney

2024 $39.95M Cap Hit $2M Dead MOney


After 2024 there is $0 of dead money remaining so should Mahomes get injured badly or his on field performance plummet, KC has the option to walk away after 2022 with very little dead money hitting the team.

 

[StarBoyz83]

It didn't help Romo and Witt.

They never built a team lol

 

[Flamma]

By that time the cap would be like 245 mil , and kc would have 3 + Super Bowls
Compared to what jerry paid last year for Mr Dakota and we’re 1-4 by the time he got injured . Go figure

What Jerry should have done was extend Dak after 2018. Even at market value he'd be a bargain by 2021. But seriously, by 2022 I'm guessing the cap is around 220 million. Educated guess based on how it usually rises if all goes well. That said, Patrick did go a little easy on them with the new contract. But nothing to rave about IMO.

 

[CouchCoach]

I honestly don't get the desire by QBs to earn maximum dollars, is it an ego thing or a badge of honour?

There's no way you sit in your home in 20 years' time and say "you know, what....I'm really struggling on my $150m, wish I'd pushed for $180m so I could get the bigger yacht". I know I say it as joke but really, does it make any difference at that level? If you are say, a JAG TE then yes, push for everything you can get as it probably will make a difference to your eventual family wealth but a top level QB won't even notice the extra squeeze.

I always remember many years' ago Sting (from the band the Police) was robbed by his accountant and he didn't even notice.....he has/had that much money he didn't even realise millions had been stolen from him! I say that to illustrate these people don't know what to do with their cash above a certain level.

So with that in mind, don't you think the better option would be to sit as as old man is 50 years' time and say "I had a great career, I earned a fortune and I won X divisional titles, Y championships and Z superbowls" rather than "I had a great career and made a fortune, that's it". You still earn a fortune on option A!!!!

We are not talking about a working class man earning say, $50k a year where earning $55k would help his family with I don't know, a nicer car, a great annual vacation that kind of thing. That person absolutely push your employer for every last dollar you can get.

I'd love to have the skill and talent to play QB for Dallas and I can honestly say, I would do the deal to allow the team to bring in top level talent and win ring/s rather than take so much off the table it makes it harder to win. Am I that far out of touch with professional athletes that I am talking rubbish? I don't think I am.

To be clear, I'm not calling Dak greedy, I think he's great. Virtually all the players seem to want to do it and I fail to see why.

It's not just QB's, there are still contracts at virtually every position that state no other player at that position can be paid better.

That has been around for quite some time and MIN actually used that against SEA to get Steve Hutchison away from them, they couldn't pay him more.

Ego and money drive all professional sports as well as the entertainment industry.

If we think there isn't a money pecking order within each sport, we don't know human nature. Value isn't established with pro bowls, it's done with dollars.

And take that to the owners' level as well. Booger hasn't won jack in 25 years but being the tops in revenue and value, that's his win.

 

[Jimbo123]

Maybe he's hoping to get traded to a team that has a chance to win something.

 

[Flamma]

As for my reference of it being a great deal, Mahomes was rewarded for winning a Super Bowl and subsequently brought KC to another Super Bowl this year......so YES, it's a great deal. Tell me what Dak has done to be rewarded???????


Mahomes Cap Hit & Dead Money by Year

2021 $24.8M Cap Hit $59.6M Dead Money

2022 $31.45M Cap Hit $34.9M Dead Money

2023 $42.45M Cap HIt $4M Dead MOney

2024 $39.95M Cap Hit $2M Dead MOney


After 2024 there is $0 of dead money remaining so should Mahomes get injured badly or his on field performance plummet, KC has the option to walk away after 2022 with very little dead money hitting the team.

I don't think players should be rewarded for what they have done. They should be paid based on what the team thinks he can do in the future. If I had my choice, Dak would be playing for another team in 2021.

You're right on the Mahomes thing. But if he gets injured or doesn't play well, his following year is guaranteed. People miss that little detail in his contract.

 

[Captain-Crash]

he's a greedy gimp who only wants to be paid. the other guy wants to be like Brady, a winner with trophies to show for his career. Greedy turd bag just wants some new shoes and a shiny car. smh.
Ones a good guy, the other is a psych major turd bag.

 

[nightrain]

Dak probably feels the Cowboys already got a 4 year discount with his services. Is he wrong?

 

[Ranching]

They never built a team ok]
Stephen took the discount and ran!!

 

[JJHLH1]

Jerry was foolish not to pay Dak at the earliest opportunity.

The Cowboys got 40 wins from Dak during his rookie contract while paying him less than 1% of the salary cap over that period.

I can’t fault Dak for not giving a discount.

 

[Captain-Crash]

yeah, I can't fault Jerry. He gives the turd the opportunity to make millions on ads and commercials by being a Cowboy. What a loser guy.

 

[basel90]

What Jerry should have done was extend Dak after 2018. Even at market value he'd be a bargain by 2021. But seriously, by 2022 I'm guessing the cap is around 220 million. Educated guess based on how it usually rises if all goes well. That said, Patrick did go a little easy on them with the new contract. But nothing to rave about IMO.

Yes jerry thought dak was like his son and he could prevail upon dak and that dak would play along . Didn’t happen . I just don’t think dak is serious about this team and town . Trade him ASAP if he doesn’t sign .

 

[AbeBeta]

At least partially because Mahomes deal was redone during his rookie deal, giving him less leverage than a player closer to UFA.

Also IMO Daks agent has a selfish agenda in this case.

Umm, agents are paid to be selfish. He's literally negotiating what is likely the biggest payday his client will ever have.

 

[Flamma]

Yes jerry thought dak was like his son and he could prevail upon dak and that dak would play along . Didn’t happen . I just don’t think dak is serious about this team and town . Trade him ASAP if he doesn’t sign .

Can't trade him. He has to be under contract to trade. That means he has to sign the tag.

 

[CouchCoach]

Can't trade him. He has to be under contract to trade. That means he has to sign the tag.

He has the ultimate no trade clause and they can't do anything about it.

However, with these trade rumors of Stafford and Watson swirling around, they no longer have 0 options other than a rookie QB.

 

[Vtwin]

How is Prescott greedy? They wouldn't settle for a 4 year contract, which just happens to be the norm except for Mahomes and that contract will not last 4 years.

Rodgers has 4 years left on his and wants a new one. And he will get that in GB or another market. That is going to happen.

France is doing his job and looking out for his player because the opinion is the cap is going to really expand when the new rights contract is done with TV and streaming and the effect of gambling hasn't been fully felt yet.

99.9% of the players are all about one thing, maxing out their dollars while in a 15B business that only exists because of them.

Coach. I have asked this question numerous times here over the last year or so and have not gotten an answer yet, Maybe you can help me.

You state that four year contracts are the norm. Can you point to a scenario in which a QB was under contract for less than five years after signing a new contract? I could not find any examples of that scenario myself. Four year extensions to the time remaining on an existing contract are common. Straight up four year contracts are unprecedented unless I am missing something.

 

[cowboyec]

Absolutley, 100 percent. Funny thing about this is guys didn't want Dak when he was making less than a million a year but now it's all about money.

and they ain't gonna like the price of the next one any better if Dak walks.
doesn't matter if its justin fields sam darnold jared goff matt stafford....we're gonna have to pay.
might as well pay Dak.

 

[basel90]

Can't trade him. He has to be under contract to trade. That means he has to sign the tag.

Yes he has to sign and agree to a trade . Just don’t see jerry making that happen . He loves his star to a fault and doesn’t want to let them go . Especially that he believes he discovered dak and wants to win with him . Will be interesting to see how this unfolds .

 

[MonsterD]

All these hating fans needs to stop lying about their true intents and just say “ I JUST DON’T LIKE DAK” I am just being a real hater.

We saw this with Romo and of course it would be the same for any QB who isn't winning 3 superbowls for the Cowboys but it is what it is, just frustration and very very harsh criteria for what is or isn't a good QB.

It is so weird observing this whole tantrum dilemma from a neutral on Dak position, but I do often agree paying him 35 mill or more a year is going to be very tough on a declining cap and the ability to sign players around him. For that situation it would take a very good GM and FO, and obviously the Cowboys don't have that to compensate.