Why is Russell considered better than Quinn???

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Russel also didnt move the ball at all against some SEC teams, and the fans actually thought the back up perideoux(somethin to that effect) would take over as starter when he game in against Tennessee i believe and played so well. Im iffy about both, but i'd say Quinn considering LSU defense won them the way numerous times,and I doubt ND's d EVER won them a game.
 

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Muhast;1415329 said:
Russel also didnt move the ball at all against some SEC teams, and the fans actually thought the back up perideoux(somethin to that effect) would take over as starter when he game in against Tennessee i believe and played so well. Im iffy about both, but i'd say Quinn considering LSU defense won them the way numerous times,and I doubt ND's d EVER won them a game.

First off let me say I'm not a fan of either Quinn or Russell and could care less about either, neither will be there when the Cowboys are picking. I will say I am a huge Big Ten fan and I would have loved to have seen Quinn play in our conference or in the SEC. I really don't think he would have put up the same stats had he played in a major conference with great defensive squads. His stats came against some not so great defensive teams. I think alot of QB's could put up nice stats against the likes of;

Army
Navy
Air Force
North Carolina
Stanford

Quinn didn't do so well against the likes of Michigan, USU or LSU.

Like I said, I don't care about either guy, but Quinn did play inferior talent as compared to Russell. Russell is taller and has a much stronger arm than Quinn and is just as, if not more, accurate than Quinn.
 

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If I had Randy Moss on my team I would draft Russell... but If I was a young coach like kiffen I would hope the old man would draft Calvin Johnson and get my QB later or in next years draft!!!
 

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Big Dakota;1415303 said:
In 2006 Quinn had a 61.9 comp %

In 2006 Russell had a 67.8 comp %

Russell had 8 ints and Quinn had 7.

Russell had the 3rd highest QB rating in the entire NC2A. Quinn was 14th.


hey, lets not cloud the issue with the facts here......Quinn is the best QB to ever set foot on the field.....
 

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dalboy;1414943 said:
Why do all you think Russell is better than Quinn, and how did the Heisman drop to the 3rd round? Why??

I really dont care for either one myself. Russel is going to need some grooming time, Quinn could probably start right away. The problem with Quinn is that he only looked great against the academies.

When Quinn played a good team, he turned into Casper and disappeared.

I also think some people are thinking Russell with his size could be Vince Young V2, but slower. Not gonna happen, Russel is nowhere near Vince Young's league.

Just my opinion, but I really am not that impressed with either.
 

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Quinn will be a good QB and people bashing him for bad performances have no clue. The Irish play tough teams in every conference, and are a good team put were not a top 5 team(12) this year yet they had to play the 3rd or 4th best team. If you watched his game against USC last year you could see he was a talent. I think Russell would be a good fit for Oakland and I do not want to see Brady go to the raiders.
 

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theogt;1415140 said:
As for why Russell over Quinn? He's simply better. Better arm, better accuracy, and makes decisions quicker.

You couldn't be more wrong.

All he has over Quinn is size (fat) and arm strength. Completion % doesn't necessarily mean "more accurate".

We'll just have to wait 2-3 years to find out. Lucky for you I won't remember that you thought Russell was better, nor will I care.
 

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If it wasn't for the ND hype machine, Quinn would be in the Jeff Smoker tier of 2nd round picks. People were alredy projecting him for the #1 pick in the draft two games into the Weiss era.
 

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Rack;1415473 said:
You couldn't be more wrong.

All he has over Quinn is size (fat) and arm strength. Completion % doesn't necessarily mean "more accurate".

We'll just have to wait 2-3 years to find out. Lucky for you I won't remember that you thought Russell was better, nor will I care.
By more accurate, I mean that he consistently makes throws that are more catchable (i.e., his throws are not in the dirt and they don't sail over a receiver's head). Quinn's accuracy is so spotty that he struggles to hit wide open receivers in the flats at times.

As a side note, I didn't watch Russell closely in 2005 so I can't really speak to what happened then. Before the 2006 season I had a close friend that graduated from LSU tell me Russell would be a top 5 pick in this year's draft. I thought he was nuts. So I watched him closely all season and came away very impressed.

Quinn may look the part, but Russell has the better arm, accuracy, and mentality. Quinn could certainly improve and may have more upside (whatever the hell that means), but as of right now, Russell is the better QB. Sure it's just my opinion, but besides posting the better stats he put up, what else can I offer?

P.S. The movie "300" *****' rocked.
 

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The thing that scared me about Russell was his man boobies. I don't think I could draft a QB with man boobs. Shows a lack of commitment, just put down the 3rd big mac and you could make 50 million.
 

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Zen;1415506 said:
The thing that scared me about Russell was his man boobies. I don't think I could draft a QB with man boobs. Shows a lack of commitment, just put down the 3rd big mac and you could make 50 million.
He is quite the tub of lard.

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theogt;1415490 said:
By more accurate, I mean that he consistently makes throws that are more catchable (i.e., his throws are not in the dirt and they don't sail over a receiver's head). Quinn's accuracy is so spotty that he struggles to hit wide open receivers in the flats at times.

As a side note, I didn't watch Russell closely in 2005 so I can't really speak to what happened then. Before the 2006 season I had a close friend that graduated from LSU tell me Russell would be a top 5 pick in this year's draft. I thought he was nuts. So I watched him closely all season and came away very impressed.

Quinn may look the part, but Russell has the better arm, accuracy, and mentality. Quinn could certainly improve and may have more upside (whatever the hell that means), but as of right now, Russell is the better QB. Sure it's just my opinion, but besides posting the better stats he put up, what else can I offer?

P.S. The movie "300" *****' rocked.

I went to see it yesterday but all the kiddies were already out for spring break. I hate watching a movie with a bunch of noisy kids in the theater. I'm going to San Antonio on thursday, gonna go see it at an IMAX with some friends. When I'm with friends at a theater I don't care about the noise cuz usually it's me and my friends making the noise. lol

As for the QBs we'll be drafting neither of them so it really doesn't matter.
 

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dalboy;1414943 said:
Why do all you think Russell is better than Quinn, and how did the Heisman drop to the 3rd round? Why??

russell is "considered" better then quinn because of what young did last yr, which i dont see as being much.

and troy smith is in the 3rd because of his height, and his mechanics. if russell was 6ft he wouldnt even be drafted. thats how overrated i think he is.
 

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LatinMind;1415519 said:
russell is "considered" better then quinn because of what young did last yr, which i dont see as being much.
What the hell are you talking about? Pull your head out of your arse. No one compares Russell to Young. My God you say some of the ...how do I say this ... dumbest things sometimes.

and troy smith is in the 3rd because of his height, and his mechanics. if russell was 6ft he wouldnt even be drafted. thats how overrated i think he is.
If he was 6 feet tall, he probably wouldn't be as strong and as accurate as he is, so yeah you're right, but it's a meaningless point.
 

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theogt;1415528 said:
What the hell are you talking about? Pull your head out of your arse. No one compares Russell to Young. My God you say some of the ...how do I say this ... dumbest things sometimes.

If he was 6 feet tall, he probably wouldn't be as strong and as accurate as he is, so yeah you're right, but it's a meaningless point.

lol i putting them as the same size, the same abilities. sort of. same styles. so they think he could have the same success. he wont.
 

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theogt;1415528 said:
What the hell are you talking about? Pull your head out of your arse. No one compares Russell to Young. My God you say some of the ...how do I say this ... dumbest things sometimes.

If he was 6 feet tall, he probably wouldn't be as strong and as accurate as he is, so yeah you're right, but it's a meaningless point.
and if u could ever post something without trying to think u know everything and trying to call everybody names u wouldnt be put on ignore. bye
 

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LatinMind;1415531 said:
lol i putting them as the same size, the same abilities. sort of. same styles. so they think he could have the same success. he wont.
Their abilities and styles are completely different. They literally could not be any more different in those two respects. I suspect I know why you're comparing them, and it's stupid.
 

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theogt;1415535 said:
Their abilities and styles are completely different. They literally could not be any more different in those two respects. I suspect I know why you're comparing them, and it's stupid.

yeah, damned kids and their mullets......if you have seen one, you have seen them all.
 

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LatinMind;1415532 said:
and if u could ever post something without trying to think u know everything and trying to call everybody names u wouldnt be put on ignore. bye
I'm sure I'm on ignore, but after re-reading what I wrote, it was kind of harsh. Sorry. I'll put forth a conscious effort to be less abrasive in the future.
 
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