Will McClay needs to become the team's GM!

[Hawkeye0202]

I disagree. Will is a company man.

You don't know this.......In fact, what proof do you have? Will doesn't speak in public much at all. I mean is this your opinion?

 

[Cowboyny]

Will McClay has been given all these props for players that he has help to find and draft. With the said, those same players are fricking SOFT and overrated. All I hear is what a great bunch of players the Cowboys have which is turning out to be a bunch of BS!!!!!!!!!! There are maybe two or three players who deserve props, the rest of them pretty much suck! This is a Cowboy team that is loaded with over hyped, overpaid and less than mediocre when they are compared to other players in the league. This team needs to hit the market, have some billionaire step up, buy the Cowboys and turn over all the football side of the club over to a real GM with knowledge on how to evaluate and draft hardnose FOOTBALL PLAYERS, not the candy ***** that the Cowboys currently have.

I believe players turn soft in this circus atmosphere that Jerry has around the team, players are treated like celebrities, not football players trying to win games.

 

[baltcowboy]

Probably right. Problem is, Jerry doesn't believe he and his son are the issue.

In reality all we can hope that maybe this offseason the media will be crushing the Joneses and the Cowboys might be so bad that Thanksgiving might be their last game in prime time. Then Jerry’s ego will make him go out and spend some cash on free agents.

 

[Cowboys5217]

You don't know this.......In fact, what proof do you have? Will doesn't speak in public much at all. I mean is this your opinion?

We do know this. Nobody has any control in this organization other than Jerry. Everyone else, including Stephen and Will, are yes men who are only allowed to do what Jerry lets them.

Frankly, how do you not see this after all this time?

 

[Whyjerry]

Anything is better than Jerry but Will won’t be allowed to do anything without the shadow GM signing off. Also is Will McClay good. The drafts have sucked and the FA dumpster dives have yielded nothing. His record is not good.

 

[CowboyoWales]

You don't know this.......In fact, what proof do you have? Will doesn't speak in public much at all. I mean is this your opinion?

Jerry may well 'promote' Will as a pseudo-GM, but wouldn't cede power, he would be GM in name only.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

We do know this. Nobody has any control in this organization other than Jerry. Everyone else, including Stephen and Will, are yes men who are only allowed to do what Jerry lets them.

Frankly, how do you not see this after all this time?

Let's put it another way..........what are the practical options going forward? Many have said to bring in a real GM and that is certainly a solution but not an option for the reasons you mention. IF Jerry won't listen to his son and close adviser (of 20+ years), what are the odds of him trusting someone from the outside?
Just my take but I think Stephen and Will oversee 90-95% of the team's operation with Jerry's blessing but the other 5% is Jerry ( final say on coaching, large contracts and top draft picks) I don't see Jerry trusting anyone more than Stephen or Will with critical team decisions.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

Jerry may well 'promote' Will as a pseudo-GM, but wouldn't cede power, he would be GM in name only.

I agree but I think Will is the closest "outsider" we are going to get as a GM and frankly he will do a great job IMO with enough power/authority.

 

[starfan1]

I don't know about Will McClay being the GM. i think early on it may have worked but i think at this point hes been in the organization long enough that the Jerry Jones stink wont wash off. We need outside influence

 

[Parcells4Life]

+1

^^^^This .........bet Jerry can't tell you the last time he attended and scouted a college game live. It's something most GMs do at least a few times a year. I hate to say it but Jerry and Stephen have become lazy......... don't get the impression they wanna put in the energy and time.

I doubt he event did it in the 90s

 

[Parcells4Life]

In reality all we can hope that maybe this offseason the media will be crushing the Joneses and the Cowboys might be so bad that Thanksgiving might be their last game in prime time. Then Jerry’s ego will make him go out and spend some cash on free agents.

They don’t have the cap room to do so this offseason.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

I don't know about Will McClay being the GM. i think early on it may have worked but i think at this point hes been in the organization long enough that the Jerry Jones stink wont wash off. We need outside influence

I agree 100%.......but to me, the best way to that outside influence is indirectly through Will. In other words, get Will in a position of power and authority to bring some HIS people.

 

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

He should be running another franchise who's owner wants to win games over ticket sales.

LOL, G go back to bed instead of preaching. LOL

 

[starfan1]

I agree 100%.......but to me, the best way to that outside influence is indirectly through Will. In other words, get Will in a position of power and authority to bring some HIS people.

anything is better than what we got at the moment.

 

[lostar2009]

I think WM is going to bounce in a year or two. Only an idiot will stay with this clown show.

 

[blueblood70]

Will McClay has turned down multiple general manager offers to leave Dallas. He has proved to be an excellent director of scouting, in which the Cowboys have drafted more pro bowl players then any other team over the last decade. Sure, he has had some misses, so so do all scouting departments around the league. Point is, he has a successful track record.

With over 20 years without even a Conference Championship appearance, the Jones Family has failed, without the train robbery deal for Walker, it is debatable they ever win a championship since they bought the team. Will Jerry/Stephen give up the power? Only happens if someone who they respect convinces that the best course of action; Jimmy, Bellicheck, Saban are the type of coaches with clout that can try to convince them, try is the key word. Sad thing is, we may already have a strong GM in the building and he doesn't even have the job in McClay!

I have to ask after all these years of wanting a new GM ,wanting Jerry to step down, you would pick somebody already on the staff who is part of the decision making for all the drafts and I guarantee he has input on free agents as well... he is like assistant GM here, his duties do include more than scouting and more than draft day but we've had busts in the draft as well TJ Watt that that kind of thing he was here so why would you want a guy who's already here that's going to be a Jerry guy, wouldn't you want Jerry to go out and get somebody like bill Parcells or Bill Belichick type to actually be a GM a football guy that's done it before and that's ready to be the next level and I'm not saying bill Parcells today, I'm saying that's usually how it works when you have a guy that good who was sort of the GM slash head coach and then the next level is for them to be a full GM of a team...??​

You're basically promoting a guy who's already basically part GM here with all the problems here that would be like right now firing Mike McCarthy and elevating Mike Zimmer the head coach, why,

why would you do that the man is part of the problem you can't keep part of the problem you have to hire A GM from outside the organization and then let him do all the hiring for the next head coach and all the other stuff but if Jerry's here is that going to happen this is Jerry's point in the 1st place Jerry has said this and people twist it and they like to read between the lines that are really not there when Jerry says he's not hired an outside GM because while he's here he's going to get final say he's going to have strong input, and everything that happens and the GM is not going to have enough power like they might have another teams to make a difference...

he's saying that's the reason doesn't fire himself because if he hired A GM and kept firing them what's the difference if he has most of the weight of the final say if him and Steven and the Jones family have all the final veto and the votes are heavy towards them like if this was voting it'd be 4 to one to the GM who is here.

Jerry has said this all these years the reason he hasn't hired AGM is because he would never give full control to one enough that he doesn't have some of the decision making so why not just stick with status quo if status quo is him gonna be making the final decision anyway so this is a pipe dream...

I mean hiring AGM from outside the organization while the Jones family still owns this organization it's just giving them another scapegoat they'll make all the final decisions but whenever the fans get angry they fire the GM to make everyone happy and get a new coaching staff but in the end they were a large part of making all the final decisions that the fans may or may not like..

I know that doesn't seem to make sense to some of y'all but that's what Jerry's meant all these years on why he hasn't hired AGM because in the end he has the final set his family has the final say and no one will have more power than him or the Jones family so even if some scenario where Jones passed away the Jones family is keeping this and Steven Jones would take over and I don't think anything would change.. So again if he goes out and hires AGM and at first gives him some power like we saw with bill Parcells when he came in had a little bit more latitude I think Mike McCarthy at first had a little more latitude these dudes were Super Bowl winners Jerry gave them a little more latitude but in the end Jerry still takes over own family is still going to be looking over their shoulders..

So all you're doing is adding a layer of scapegoats you just fire the GM when problems are happening but in the end you say the culture is bad with the cultures the Jones family not just Jerry and I believe for the next decade or more just get used to Jerry owning the team or the Jones family on some level owning the team and nothing I don't see anything changing after AL left the Raiders or any of these teams that up and left their cities or broke down and completely changed ownership and changed everything like the Browns or the Jaguars and nothing's changed at all you think these teams somehow just jumped up from the bottom dwelling 5 who are much worse than the Cowboys by the way and just all of a sudden we're contending for Super Bowls?

The only way things change around here is that the Jones family not Jerry steps down and sells the team if not you guys are all dreaming and I don't know what you're smoking or drinking or maybe taking some heavy duty sleeping aids in order to sleep better after all these nightmares of games this year I'm trying to be sarcastic and also true at the same time but you guys are dreaming about some crazy **** this is not happening you have to change the ownership in order to have the GM and the front office structure that you guys are wanting even though I see twenty other teams that have been continually changing their GMs and coaching Staffs and having some of the highest draft picks available and still are not even as good as the Dallas Cowboys So what is the end game here you're tired of Jerry but that doesn't mean things are gonna change around here even if they sell the team you think it's just automatically going to get better, you just going to have a new person to blame:?

 

[JW82]

Honestly he can go too. Give me a completely new owner and front office. Anyone associated Jerry stinks with the smell of losing at this point.

 

[RJ_MacReady]

He basically is the GM of personnel

He's the GM of creating/maintaining the Coaches "Needs" and "Wish" lists, but the Jones' control the capital (both draft and monetary).

If McClain was really the GM of the personnel, there's no way he would've trotted out this RB backfield or D-line into training camp. I can guarantee you that Will would've spent more capitol on those two position groups for this season if he was the GM (and we know the Coaches desperately want it). How do I know? Because he doesn't seem to be a complete IDIOT that would ignore glaring deficiencies. Which is a very observable low bar to cross in Dallas...

 

[Creeper]

If what you are saying is Jerry steps completely away and lets McClay call all the shots, including signing free agents, then yes, I am all for it. I have no idea how McClay will do managing the CAP but I trust his judgement when it comes to talent. Perhaps he can hire a couple of eggheads to manage the CAP for him. But Jerry is never going to step away like that. And Stephen won't either. It is shocking to me that McClay hangs around because he could get more responsibility elsewhere.

With the surge in AI related programming lately, I am surprised no one has come up with an application to do CAP management. Seems like projecting contracts, what if scenarios, planning roster moves in the future could all be automated to provide GMs with a pretty good analysis of this data. But in the end it is the policies like signing free agents, cutting players or letting them leave, and decisions like that the GM has to make and those are things Jerry seems to want to hold onto.

 

[Cowboyny]

I have to ask after all these years of wanting a new GM ,wanting Jerry to step down, you would pick somebody already on the staff who is part of the decision making for all the drafts and I guarantee he has input on free agents as well... he is like assistant GM here, his duties do include more than scouting and more than draft day but we've had busts in the draft as well TJ Watt that that kind of thing he was here so why would you want a guy who's already here that's going to be a Jerry guy, wouldn't you want Jerry to go out and get somebody like bill Parcells or Bill Belichick type to actually be a GM a football guy that's done it before and that's ready to be the next level and I'm not saying bill Parcells today, I'm saying that's usually how it works when you have a guy that good who was sort of the GM slash head coach and then the next level is for them to be a full GM of a team...??​

You're basically promoting a guy who's already basically part GM here with all the problems here that would be like right now firing Mike McCarthy and elevating Mike Zimmer the head coach, why,

why would you do that the man is part of the problem you can't keep part of the problem you have to hire A GM from outside the organization and then let him do all the hiring for the next head coach and all the other stuff but if Jerry's here is that going to happen this is Jerry's point in the 1st place Jerry has said this and people twist it and they like to read between the lines that are really not there when Jerry says he's not hired an outside GM because while he's here he's going to get final say he's going to have strong input, and everything that happens and the GM is not going to have enough power like they might have another teams to make a difference...

he's saying that's the reason doesn't fire himself because if he hired A GM and kept firing them what's the difference if he has most of the weight of the final say if him and Steven and the Jones family have all the final veto and the votes are heavy towards them like if this was voting it'd be 4 to one to the GM who is here.

Jerry has said this all these years the reason he hasn't hired AGM is because he would never give full control to one enough that he doesn't have some of the decision making so why not just stick with status quo if status quo is him gonna be making the final decision anyway so this is a pipe dream...

I mean hiring AGM from outside the organization while the Jones family still owns this organization it's just giving them another scapegoat they'll make all the final decisions but whenever the fans get angry they fire the GM to make everyone happy and get a new coaching staff but in the end they were a large part of making all the final decisions that the fans may or may not like..

I know that doesn't seem to make sense to some of y'all but that's what Jerry's meant all these years on why he hasn't hired AGM because in the end he has the final set his family has the final say and no one will have more power than him or the Jones family so even if some scenario where Jones passed away the Jones family is keeping this and Steven Jones would take over and I don't think anything would change.. So again if he goes out and hires AGM and at first gives him some power like we saw with bill Parcells when he came in had a little bit more latitude I think Mike McCarthy at first had a little more latitude these dudes were Super Bowl winners Jerry gave them a little more latitude but in the end Jerry still takes over own family is still going to be looking over their shoulders..

So all you're doing is adding a layer of scapegoats you just fire the GM when problems are happening but in the end you say the culture is bad with the cultures the Jones family not just Jerry and I believe for the next decade or more just get used to Jerry owning the team or the Jones family on some level owning the team and nothing I don't see anything changing after AL left the Raiders or any of these teams that up and left their cities or broke down and completely changed ownership and changed everything like the Browns or the Jaguars and nothing's changed at all you think these teams somehow just jumped up from the bottom dwelling 5 who are much worse than the Cowboys by the way and just all of a sudden we're contending for Super Bowls?

The only way things change around here is that the Jones family not Jerry steps down and sells the team if not you guys are all dreaming and I don't know what you're smoking or drinking or maybe taking some heavy duty sleeping aids in order to sleep better after all these nightmares of games this year I'm trying to be sarcastic and also true at the same time but you guys are dreaming about some crazy **** this is not happening you have to change the ownership in order to have the GM and the front office structure that you guys are wanting even though I see twenty other teams that have been continually changing their GMs and coaching Staffs and having some of the highest draft picks available and still are not even as good as the Dallas Cowboys So what is the end game here you're tired of Jerry but that doesn't mean things are gonna change around here even if they sell the team you think it's just automatically going to get better, you just going to have a new person to blame:?

I understand the reservation of promoting within as them being apart of the problem.