Williams, Dallas Cowboys defensive coaches clear the air

Rampage;2078580 said:
he made little impact and him having his best games while the defense as a whole was having terrible games shows that.
Logic isn't exactly your best strong suit.
 
theogt;2078582 said:
Logic isn't exactly your best strong suit.
what don't you get? another insult so i guess you're stumped again. quick! somebody call his leader adam to help him out with this one.
 
theogt;2078578 said:
It's amazing that you think you've actually made some kind of point here.
Those tackles were 10 yards down the freaking field. the guy had no tackles of a loss the entire season. and we all know he cant tackle my grandmother. get out of denial, and face the fact that the guy is flatout terrible and has to go.
 
cowboyrock;2078586 said:
Those tackles were 10 yards down the freaking field. the guy had no tackles of a loss the entire season. and we all know he cant tackle my grandmother. get out of denial, and face the fact that the guy is flatout terrible and has to go.

myth number 589 about RW he can't tackle cowboyrock grandmother. Post like these and people why RW does care to much for the fans.
 
Rampage;2078585 said:
what don't you get? another insult so i guess you're stumped again. quick! somebody call his leader adam to help him out with this one.
It's not worth the time trying to explain anything to a 5 year old.
 
cowboyrock;2078586 said:
Those tackles were 10 yards down the freaking field. the guy had no tackles of a loss the entire season. and we all know he cant tackle my grandmother. get out of denial, and face the fact that the guy is flatout terrible and has to go.

Hes not terrible hes just average.

Hes not worth the investments thats been spent on him.

He definetely was at one point.

If he has another season like last year I think Dallas will cut him.
 
Rampage;2078576 said:
oh ok well let's look at tackles since that's all you apologists can cling on these days. here are his best games tackle wise

week 1 vs NY -9 tackles while the defense gave up 35 points.

week 5 at Buffalo -9 tackles defense gave up 3 points i believe.

week 10 at NY -10 tackles defense gave up 20 points

week 11 vs Washington - 10 tackles defense gave 23 points and over 300 passing yards.

week 17 at Washington - 9 tackles defense gave up 27 points.

so other than the Buffalo game(against a rookie qb) Roy had his best games when the defense was bad and sometimes at there worst. so while him and the rest of the secondary can't cover those games he had his best games tackle wise. big impact baby!

If roy doesn't tackle them who will? So when the defense was poor his solid play kept us in the game. I see your logic w/o average safties would have had at most 6 tackles in any of thos games you listed so what is your point.
 
theogt;2078590 said:
It's not worth the time trying to explain anything to a 5 year old.

:laugh2:
DaBoys4Life;2078592 said:
If roy doesn't tackle them who will? So when the defense was poor his solid play kept us in the game. I see your logic w/o average safties would have had at most 6 tackles in any of thos games you listed so what is your point.
how do you figure that? my point is when he had his best tackle games i'm sure give or take 3 per game were after the opposing team got a 1st down. his solid play? where's his solid play when everybody else is playing well? he should be playing just as solid if not better when the rest of the team is playing well. this guy went from a playmaking safety to a tackler.
 
theogt;2078571 said:
Was Julius our leading rusher? Did Jacques Reeves lead in incomplete passes?

No?

Oh, okay...well Roy led the team in solo tackles.

That wasn't the claim. The claim was that he did something in every game to help up win.

And I pointed out how lame a claim that was.
 
theogt;2078561 said:
He made a play that contributed to us winning in every game last year.

Really?

On 12/23 we beat Carolina.

What exactly did Roy do in that game?
 
Rampage;2078596 said:
:laugh2:

how do you figure that? my point is when he had his best tackle games i'm sure give or take 3 per game were after the opposing team got a 1st down. his solid play? where's his solid play when everybody else is playing well? he should be playing just as solid if not better when the rest of the team is playing well. this guy went from a playmaking safety to a tackler.

Yep...

We can find guys who can come in and be average for a lot less money.
 
abersonc;2078598 said:
That wasn't the claim. The claim was that he did something in every game to help up win.

And I pointed out how lame a claim that was.
And I pointed out how the context of his contributions as compared to the other players show that it wasn't lame.
 
theogt;2078606 said:
And I pointed out how the context of his contributions as compared to the other players show that it wasn't lame.

Fine. Now show me how he helped us win against Carolina and I'll let you off the hook.
 
abersonc;2078607 said:
Fine. Now show me how he helped us win against Carolina and I'll let you off the hook.
Why? What's the point?

By the way, I was responding to the question, "When was the last time he contributed to a win?"

Lame questions beget lame answers, perhaps?
 
CowboyJeff;2078416 said:
Hos, why do you only support me when the going is good, and unleash these horrible negative personal attacks like above during bad times? ;)
Because you're a riot under fire.
 
Alexander;2078422 said:
You seem to be debating something here that isn't even part of the equation.

I won't deny the fact he feels the criticism. He's not quite that unintelligent. In fact, he's one of the most hyper-sensitive Cowboy players of all time. Why would it be shocking that he feels it? Someone could look at him strange and he'd react.

Think back to his temper tantrum with Jean-Jacques Taylor a few years ago. This is not a new thing. I know I am not shocked at all. It is what he does.
No I'm not, you just assumed something right off the bat. Look at my very first post and the portions I was quoting. It should be perfectly clear what I was addressing and continue to address.
 
theogt;2078610 said:
Lame questions beget lame answers, perhaps?

at least on that we agree

but you shouldn't play down to that level
 
Roy,

show us patient fans some love......you dusty jersey is still hanging in my closet
 
Rampage;2078596 said:
:laugh2:

how do you figure that? my point is when he had his best tackle games i'm sure give or take 3 per game were after the opposing team got a 1st down. his solid play? where's his solid play when everybody else is playing well? he should be playing just as solid if not better when the rest of the team is playing well. this guy went from a playmaking safety to a tackler.

In our defense most of the plays being made are come from the OLB. Either DWare or Ellis more DWare than Ellis. Our defense has 6 pro bowlers on the team it is easy to overlook some one value to the team when they are not making those huge bone jarring hits that end up on SC.
 

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