Williams, Dallas Cowboys defensive coaches clear the air

[DaBoys4Life]

Don't worry. If Roy lays a couple big hits in the first two weeks of the season, people will be screaming "zOMG Roy is back!!!!111" even if his overall level of play drops significantly.

well obv aslong as the man is laying the wood everyone is happy

 

[SDogo]

well obv aslong as the man is laying the wood everyone is happy

Better then laying an egg

 

[theogt]

Better then laying an egg

Yes, who cares about his overall level of play as long as he's hitting people really hard on occasion.

 

[CATCH17]

Yes, who cares about his overall level of play as long as he's hitting people really hard on occasion.

If Roy is punishing people on the football field then his level of play is most likely high.

He can single handedly scare the mess out of teams.

 

[SDogo]

If Roy is punishing people on the football field then his level of play is most likely high.

He can single handedly scare the mess out of teams.

Thank you

 

[SDogo]

Yes, who cares about his overall level of play as long as he's hitting people really hard on occasion.

My point being, it's better then when we are getting now, it means at least some of the passion has returned and like Catch said, if anything, if he's doing what he does best it means were starting to get some production.

 

[theogt]

My point being, it's better then when we are getting now, it means at least some of the passion has returned and like Catch said, if anything, if he's doing what he does best it means were starting to get some production.

This is precisely my point. If people see a few big hits, they won't actually care about the fundamentals of coverage and tackling. All he has to do is bring the big hits, not help us win games.

 

[Rampage]

This is precisely my point. If people see a few big hits, they won't actually care about the fundamentals of coverage and tackling. All he has to do is bring the big hits, not help us win games.

when was the last time he made a play or a big enough impact to where he helped us win a game? him personally

 

[theogt]

when was the last time he made a play or a big enough impact to where he helped us win a game? him personally

He made a play that contributed to us winning in every game last year.

 

[Rampage]

He made a play that contributed to us winning in every game last year.

he made little impact in any game we won last year. when was the last time he had a big impact and was a big reason we won a game?

 

[theogt]

he made little impact in any game we won last year. when was the last time he had a big impact and was a big reason we won a game?

It's not surprising that you're unaware of any impact a player has outside of INTs and big hits.

 

[AbeBeta]

He made a play that contributed to us winning in every game last year.

You could say that about Julius Jones and Jacques Reeves as well.

So is that really such great criteria? Seems in a team sport you can usually say that about anyone who plays significant minutes.

 

[Da Hammer]

i'm tired of professional sports players complaining about not getting "treated fair" when they are playing bad. If they are playing great i dont see them complaining about getting cheer loudly and being even most of the time overrated by their fans because of how they are playing at the time. Take the good with bad and stop complaining by just focusing on your damn job. Take the good with the damn bad. This rant isnt targeted at just Roy but all sports player who feel that fans are betraying them by booing them or saying that they are dong horrible. athletes should never get too high or too low because that is in the end their ultimate downfall...

 

[theogt]

You could say that about Julius Jones and Jacques Reeves as well.

So is that really such great criteria? Seems in a team sport you can usually say that about anyone who plays significant minutes.

Was Julius our leading rusher? Did Jacques Reeves lead in incomplete passes?

No?

Oh, okay...well Roy led the team in solo tackles.

 

[jobberone]

Talk about a lightning rod! I guess every team has to have one. Not sure whether scapegoat is the right word or not. But he certainly is caught in the high beams right now.

The poster who said it wouldn't matter as much if he weren't a top ten pick earning megabucks and eating a fair chunk of cap. Sure people are people and he's going to be expected to produce or he will catch hell. That happens in every sport for any big star who falls on his bottom. For whatever reason. Clemens, Big Poppy, and I'm sure all here can spout off at least one off the top of his or her head.

RW is causing his own problems. He's not just not performing, at times, at a high level but is in fact playing at a subpar level. To reiterate, not just stardom to average but stardom to below average. And it's not just the occasional play. It's all too familiar and way too often. And it's not just not making big hits. Heck I think he'd be better off wrapping players up more often and not make the big hit everytime. And it's not letting the better receivers in the game to beat him some. It's getting beat far too often at critical moments and it's not making routine tackles as a safety.

The criticism like this is appropriate and RW really should try to be a little more thick skinned. I don't mean don't feel it. But don't react to it publically. Because you will not win a fight with fans. Ever. Never.

And Hos you're right that some of it is ridiculous.

Those that feel he's hurting the ballclub and want more performance at that position are appropriately entitled to that opinion. IMO. To lay more at his feet is not fair whatever that means. But again, fans are going to be fans. I would hope that most of us here are enlightened fans and can appropriately leave the dyspassion alone and stay objective.

Only RW can fix this. Playing like a real Pro Bowl player will make all this go away.

 

[SDogo]

This is precisely my point. If people see a few big hits, they won't actually care about the fundamentals of coverage and tackling. All he has to do is bring the big hits, not help us win games.

What I'm saying is when we were seeing the big hits on the field it also seemed to directly correlate with better coverage and tackling on his part not to mention the extra emotion it brought to the other players on the team.

I understand what your saying but at the same time I think there is more to his "big hits" then just replay time on sportscenter.

 

[Rampage]

It's not surprising that you're unaware of any impact a player has outside of INTs and big hits.

oh ok well let's look at tackles since that's all you apologists can cling on these days. here are his best games tackle wise

week 1 vs NY -9 tackles while the defense gave up 35 points.

week 5 at Buffalo -9 tackles defense gave up 3 points i believe.

week 10 at NY -10 tackles defense gave up 20 points

week 11 vs Washington - 10 tackles defense gave 23 points and over 300 passing yards.

week 17 at Washington - 9 tackles defense gave up 27 points.

so other than the Buffalo game(against a rookie qb) Roy had his best games when the defense was bad and sometimes at there worst. so while him and the rest of the secondary can't cover those games he had his best games tackle wise. big impact baby!

 

[theogt]

oh ok well let's look at tackles since that's all you apologists can cling on these days. here are his best games tackle wise

week 1 vs NY -9 tackles while the defense gave up 35 points.

week 5 at Buffalo -9 tackles defense gave up 3 points i believe.

week 10 at NY -10 tackles defense gave up 20 points

week 11 vs Washington - 10 tackles defense gave 23 points and over 300 passing yards.

week 17 at Washington - 9 tackles defense gave up 27 points.

so other than the Buffalo game(against a rookie qb) Roy had his best games when the defense was bad and sometimes at there worst. so while him and the rest of the secondary can't cover those games he had his best games tackle wise. big impact baby!

It's amazing that you think you've actually made some kind of point here.

 

[cowboyrock]

Will Jerry or someone with the cowboys please wake up before we wast another football season. Roy williams has to either go, or become the highest paid special teams player in history. the guy can not play anymore.PERIOD. you can have all the meeting you want. he is who he is. and he flatout stinks. he can not start here anymore if we are going to have any chance of winning a championship.the guy flatout stinks. and he can blame the fans and coaches all he wants.HE STINKS!

 

[Rampage]

It's amazing that you think you've actually made some kind of point here.

he made little impact and him having his best games while the defense as a whole was having terrible games shows that.