Williams facing hazy future - Mosley - 5/24/08

[28 Joker]

Holy **** dude.

Reach much?

Bill Parcells said this about the play. Do you need glasses? Alexander ran in the hole for 20 yards while Williams tackled the fullback. Is the fullback a threat there? I don't think so.

Memo to Williams:

Shaun Alexander went THAT WAY.


Jerramy Stevens ran up the right seam for a 37 yard TD in the same playoff game. I bet Williams still has the treadmarks on his jersey.

Or

What about the 15 yard fade he caught Williams on for a TD? Williams never came close to covering him. Dusted.


Run, Roy. Run. It's Chris Cooley. Oh, yeah. That wasn't Roy's fault, either.

In the 2005 game, after Terence Newman played a key role in shutting Shockey dow, the coaches pulled Newman off Shockey and let Roy get matched up one-on-one with him.

What were the results?

OVER TIME

 

[BigDFan5]

Please. Poor Roy Williams. He is being attacked. If you are critical of Williams' coverage weaknesses, which are well documented, you are "attacking" him.

I'm in Roy Williams Homer Land.

No its when you mindlessly blame Roy Williams for every pass given up last year, global warning, Not finding Osama, and Impregnating Tom Bradys girlfriend people are going to bring some sanity to the drivel being posted.


Its funny those saying "He had a bad year hopefully he does better" are mindless homers

Yet those who say "Roy sucks, he should be cut its all his fault wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh" are the "realists"

 

[Cowboyz88]

Yet you respond with "terrible year". If you can't see the blinding hypocrisy in your exaggeration , I'd rather talk to my dog.

Yeah...you've given me a reason to break out my thesaurus again!

Main Entry: terrible
Part of Speech: adjective
Definition: Very bad.

See I use "terrible" cause that's what he was. Freaking Terrance Newman told you as much.

Maybe you should talk to someone else, because most of us, including your dog, can recognize the similarity.

 

[BadWolf]

No its when you mindlessly blame Roy Williams for every pass given up last year, global warning, Not finding Osama, and Impregnating Tom Bradys girlfriend people are going to bring some sanity to the drivel being posted.

Is that supposed to be a bad thing?

 

[tomson75]

Bill Parcells said this about the play. Do you need glasses? Alexander ran in the hole for 20 yards while Williams tackled the fullback. Is the fullback a threat there? I don't think so.

Memo to Williams:

Shaun Alexander went THAT WAY.


Jerramy Stevens ran up the right seam for a 37 yard TD in the same playoff game. I bet Williams still has the treadmarks on his jersey.

Or

What about the 15 yard fade he caught Williams on for a TD? Williams never came close to covering him. Dusted.


Run, Roy. Run. It's Chris Cooley. Oh, yeah. That wasn't Roy's fault, either.

In the 2005 game, after Terence Newman played a key role in shutting Shockey dow, the coaches pulled Newman off Shockey and let Roy get matched up one-on-one with him.

What were the results?

OVER TIME

Do you need sex?

Look how pent up you are about this play. Look how pathetic you look. I'm curious of other top notch safeties have ever misjudged a RB's hole. Hmmm...I wonder if any others have been "at fault".

I'd say the answer is yes. To both queries.

 

[bbgun]

No its when you mindlessly blame Roy Williams for every pass given up last year, global warning, Not finding Osama, and Impregnating Tom Bradys girlfriend people are going to bring some sanity to the drivel being posted.

That one's on me.

 

[Rampage]

Do you need sex?

Look how pent up you are about this play. Look how pathetic you look. I'm curious of other top notch safeties have ever misjudged a RB's hole. Hmmm...I wonder if any others have been "at fault".

I'd say the answer is yes. To both queries.

you could say the same thing about your buddy stat boy.

 

[tomson75]

Yeah...you've given me a reason to break out my thesaurus again!

Main Entry: terrible
Part of Speech: adjective
Definition: Very bad.

See I use "terrible" cause that's what he was. Freaking Terrance Newman told you as much.

Maybe you should talk to someone else, because most of us, including your dog, can recognize the similarity.

Even when its written out before you in your own post, you're too pathetic to realize that its an exaggeration. Do you need me to explain "exaggeration"?

 

[DallasEast]

That's it. Enough and goodnight. Someone PM me when someone finally proves AdamJT13 wrong. He's like 500-0 in the win column. The man's a machine. Ciao.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Do you need sex?

Look how pent up you are about this play. Look how pathetic you look. I'm curious of other top notch safeties have ever misjudged a RB's hole. Hmmm...I wonder if any others have been "at fault".

I'd say the answer is yes. To both queries.

oh no you did n't

 

[Cowboyz88]

Even when its written out before you in your own post, you're too pathetic to realize that its an exaggeration. Do you need me to explain "exaggeration"?

I fear your retorts as much as I fear Roy covering my eight year old son.

 

[28 Joker]

Sorry, I thought you were talking about the other Steve Smith (for the Panthers) in the playoffs a few years ago.



It's his fault when it's his fault. It's not his fault when it's not his fault.

I know, it's a bizarre concept, blaming the people who are actually at fault. But that's just the way I am. If there are five players more worthy of blame on a play, I don't heap all of the blame on the sixth guy, like some people do. Funny how Roy ends up getting the majority of the blame whether he's the first, second, third, fourth, fifth or even sixth guy most responsible. Or even when he's nowhere close to being at fault, in some cases.

AdamTJ13,

The fans get upset, because Roy likes to point fingers at his teammates, and he is perceived not to be a hard worker in his off the field prepartion. In coverage, he constantly makes the same mistakes that DC Fanatic pointed out. According to Mosely, who has Cowboys connections, Williams called out some of his teammates on a local Dallas t.v. station.

In 2006, he showed Watkins up on the field after Watkins was beat on a play for a TD. Roy is the last person who should do this. His play has been terrible in Decemember and January during the last two years. Dropped picks, hoarse-collars, poor ball tracking against the run and pass, getting beat in coverage at critical times (about 16 of Seattle's 21 points came at Williams' expense in the playoff game.)

The two plays to Stevens were on Williams. Bradie James was too heavy under Parcells, so he couldn't get close to running with Stevens, but Williams is the last line of defense behind Bradie. He should be able to prevent Stevens from getting behind him in a playoff game. He is already deep on his part of the field and has Stevens right in front of him, just like Moss. Yet, he doesn't have the instincts or discipline to make the play. I thought safeties should be able to keep tightends in front of them when they are playing deep. If he can't cover the TE on a seam route, he can't play saftey in the NFL. Yet, you say that Roy isn't to blame when Stevens scores right over the top of him and drags him in the endzone. I don't get it.

 

[tomson75]

I fear your retorts as much as I fear Roy covering my eight year old son.

Good response.

 

[iceberg]

Please. Poor Roy Williams. He is being attacked. If you are critical of Williams' coverage weaknesses, which are well documented, you are "attacking" him.

I'm in Roy Williams Homer Land.

when you're # 3,318,834,981,371 to come in and be "critical" sorry, you look long like someone who was the last to know mullets were history.

 

[28 Joker]

I already explained Roy's quote.




Not in our scheme under Parcells or a lot of other schemes.




Please find one instance when I've EVER said Roy was "never" at fault. I've blamed Roy plenty of times. But here's the kicker -- I blame him when he's at fault, not when he isn't. Strange, I know.




For the same reason Phillips moved his strong safety to nickel linebacker before he came here, and the same reason other strong safeties such as Troy Polamalu have been moved to nickel linebacker -- they're better in the box than in deep coverage.

Here's a question for you -- why was Roy our only safety who was asked to play head-up man-to-man last season?




Smith abused Reeves, not Roy.



You might want to explain how a cornerback covering a receiver in the flat 8 yards off the ball is at fault for allowing a catch against a receiver 22 yards downfield, because I've never said anything like that.

I said that you might blame Newman. It is funny how on all these deep passes that Roy has no fault with you when it is on the record. The Santana Moss game lives in Roy infamy. Look at Glenn's reaction on the first one, never mind the visual evidence. Moss put a double move on Glenn, and Glenns' inside help on the play busted the coverage.

Again, how does Parcells leave Aaron Glenn one-on-one with the Commanders fastest player? If Roy isn't providing deep inside help for Glenn, who is?

I'm still waiting for an answer.


Again, who are you going to tackle if you are a safety in the box? The NFL MVP or the fullback?

Parcells was on the record about Roy's fault in this play.l

 

[tomson75]

What do "emphamy" mean?

 

[Cowboyz88]

Good response.

You've got Roy's own teammate (not a writer, blogger, analyst or your boy Adam) saying that Roy was a deer-in-the-headlight (not exactly a ringing endorsement of his skills), and you still hold up Adam as if he's the authority on Roy's play.

"Down" hardly describes Roy's season. You can hope as much as you want...it will never change.

 

[iceberg]

You've got Roy's own teammate (not a writer, blogger, analyst or your boy Adam) saying that Roy was a deer-in-the-headlight (not exactly a ringing endorsement of his skills), and you still hold up Adam as if he's the authority on Roy's play.

"Down" hardly describes Roy's season. You can hope as much as you want...it will never change.

you can whine as much as you want, he's still here.

 

[tomson75]

You've got Roy's own teammate (not a writer, blogger, analyst or your boy Adam) saying that Roy was a deer-in-the-headlight (not exactly a ringing endorsement of his skills), and you still hold up Adam as if he's the authority on Roy's play.

"Down" hardly describes Roy's season. You can hope as much as you want...it will never change.

While I haven't heard Newman's comments, and can't decide for myself what tone or suggestive nature he used, I'll take your word for it.

However, having said he had deer in headlights, that doesn't mean that it doesn't happen to every player at some point or another. Nor does him saying he had a bad year. It happens. It did happen. I don't like how he played last year, and 99% of the populous agrees.

What we don't agree on is the degree of his worsening performance. Many, like yourself, would like to punch and kick your way to proving your point that "Roy sucks". Others, like myself would like to be rational, and hope for improvement, or his dismissal from the team at the appropriate time.

"Down" is a good word for it. It allows for some degree of scope. "Terrible" does not.

 

[Cowboyz88]

you can whine as much as you want, he's still here.

Actually, I think he's on a family vacation.

Try again.