Would you like to see Drew Bledsoe back next year?

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jterrell said:
I'd love Culpepper here over Bledsoe.
Volek I am not sold on yet.

Plummer I didn't want. He is benefitting from an awesome line in Denver but I'd judge Bledsoe the better player.

Delhomme I am not all that big on either. He's a decent Qb like our guy. He benefits a ton from Steve Smith taking hitches 70 yards for TDs. We have beaten the Panthers 2 out 3 timers he has started against us.

And again your response wasnt to the original poster but to another poster thus the easily misread response. The original post was on 1 page, the response on another and the reponse you gave on a 3rd page.


If your point is we don't have a young franchise ugy I still dont believe you have listed one outside Culpepper. I would be all over getting him if at all possible.

I also was completely on board with drafting Leftwich.

I am not on board with just cutting all(or even the best of) our QBs and assuming we improve through magical means.
Wait a minute? We agree on a QB?

I was under the impression that there were no options. Now we have an option?

Or am I missing your point Because you've rambled so much?

You see, I'm perfectly aware of the fact you want me to bring up Drew Henson so you have actual ammo to use. I just don't feel the sting of Q was better than Hutch since I couldn't stand either option.

Well, here's your late Christmas present. I still believe we should have started Drew Henson from the Chicago game on last year. I believe "he could be ruined" is a cop out that indicates they have no confidence in their own coaching abilities. You don't have to agree, but I got a resume' too and the right to my opinion.

I believe the goal should be the Super Bowl and Drew Bledsoe has too many deficiencies to get us there. I believe we have no idea what Henson or Romo can do for this squad and that is a travesty.

Let the insults fly. You get to be the "bully."
 

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jterrell said:
Are you serious???
Eli is completing 52% of his passes and has a career 70 QB rating.

NY has the best defensive player in the NFL this year in Strahan and one of the 2 or 3 best offensive players in Tiki Barber.

Drew Bledsoe was bad against the Ginats but he severely outplayed Eli who was getting time.

All that said if you have the top overall player in the draft it makes sense to commit to him in a major way.

How do we get the top pick?

brady wasn't a top pick, nor your previous example, montana. *i* have NOT said TOP PICK ONLY, YOU seem to want to make it look like i said that so you can tear it down.

either stick with what we're talking about or let's just stop this, jt. but your making crap up and arguing against things never said is old.
 

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iceberg said:
i'm sure he did, sp. i'm sure. but i'm also sure he's young and you can expect that and work with players to get OUT of that. drew still does all those "stupid" things after 13 years, why will it stop now?

it won't. sure, bring in josh - let's open it up and get busy. : )

I am REALLY not interested in his previous 13 years. Hell, he reached a Super Bowl with BP before. Why can't it happen again?

THIS year, which is all that matters to me, Drew was damn good. Damn good when he had protection. If we do better with protection next year, I believe he can be better. The tackle situation was abysmal after Flozell, and our stats and records reflected that. Give us some more depth on the Oline, maybe an upgrade at RT, and I think we'll be much improved.

McCown or Schaub. I like em both. One more year from Bledsoe, and then get these guys in here.
 

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jterrell said:
HAHAHA.

Agenda?

What agenda is it to attack a guy who put in the best QB performance we have had in 8 years? I guess its Bledasoe's fault we couldn't run the ball too?

oh, i dunno. what "Dreamer" (funny how you refuse to address that outlandish comment again) has an agenda to sell us a 13 year vet with slightly better than average stats?
 

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big_neil said:
At this point only 2 out of 9 people (22%) want Drew to leave.
Which just goes to show the majority have good sense and the minority post alot!!!!

lol.
 

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superpunk said:
I am REALLY not interested in his previous 13 years. Hell, he reached a Super Bowl with BP before. Why can't it happen again?

THIS year, which is all that matters to me, Drew was damn good. Damn good when he had protection. If we do better with protection next year, I believe he can be better. The tackle situation was abysmal after Flozell, and our stats and records reflected that. Give us some more depth on the Oline, maybe an upgrade at RT, and I think we'll be much improved.

McCown or Schaub. I like em both. One more year from Bledsoe, and then get these guys in here.

i *am* fully interested in his history cause he tends to repeat the hell out of it.

like THIS year.

those who ignore the past...are destined to be a dreamer if you listen to jt. >g<
 

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jterrell said:
HAHAHA.

Agenda?

What agenda is it to attack a guy who put in the best QB performance we have had in 8 years? I guess its Bledasoe's fault we couldn't run the ball too?
The last time I responded to him and you thought it was directed at you, you came off looking silly.

Slow learner?

You want proof he has an agenda?

Click on his username. Click on "Find all threads started by user."

The proof is in the pudding.
 

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jterrell said:
I'd love Culpepper here over Bledsoe.
Volek I am not sold on yet.

What's this? Opinions from JTerrell?

I thought we weren't allowed those here, since we're all just amateur second guessers and none of us have invested $350 million in a football team. :)

I'd take Culpepper too.
 

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iceberg said:
oh, i dunno. what "Dreamer" (funny how you refuse to address that outlandish comment again) has an agenda to sell us a 13 year vet with slightly better than average stats?
Hmm, maybe the kind of dreamer who has seen Dilfer, Delhomme, Warner, possibly now Plummer, and oh Bledsoe, go to Super Bowls.

Perhaps you were asleep when Bledsoe went to the Super Bowl the last time??

If I was dreaming then I must be good at it because it came true.

When you make a foolish argument that leaves me open to take shots at you and I pass just leave it alone man. I don't like my fish in the barrel.
 

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iceberg said:
i *am* fully interested in his history cause he tends to repeat the hell out of it.

like THIS year.

those who ignore the past...are destined to be a dreamer if you listen to jt. >g<

I'm not dreaming, nor am I being unrealistic. Just because something has happened in the past, doesn't mean it will happen again, otherwise you can buy your super bowl tickets, cuz Parcells and Bledsoe are going back. THIS year, on THIS team, with good protection Drew was great. When I look at the season, and see a very singular event, that everything seems to tie to, then I believe I can give Bledsoe the benefit of the doubt. I can also look at other teams, like the Chiefs and Steelers, and see how they have struggled when losing their LT. It's not rocket science. LT is one of the most important positions on the field, and it showed. To deny that, and attempt to place all the blame on Drew, is just being blind.
 

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Trip said:
What's this? Opinions from JTerrell?

I thought we weren't allowed those here, since we're all just amateur second guessers and none of us have invested $350 million in a football team. :)

I'd take Culpepper too.
I thought there were no options.

Now there's an option.

I wonder how much of his gears he ground off changing directions like that?
 

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superpunk said:
I'm not dreaming, nor am I being unrealistic. Just because something has happened in the past, doesn't mean it will happen again, otherwise you can buy your super bowl tickets, cuz Parcells and Bledsoe are going back. THIS year, on THIS team, with good protection Drew was great. When I look at the season, and see a very singular event, that everything seems to tie to, then I believe I can give Bledsoe the benefit of the doubt. I can also look at other teams, like the Chiefs and Steelers, and see how they have struggled when losing their LT. It's not rocket science. LT is one of the most important positions on the field, and it showed. To deny that, and attempt to place all the blame on Drew, is just being blind.
Hurray for common sense, hopefully THEY will see this.
 

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Ashwynn said:
Hurray for common sense, hopefully THEY will see this.

And another thing. Rich Gannon. He had been mediocre, even awful. The Raiders went with him, and almost won a super bowl. Had they judged him on past performances, would they have ever made it there? Just because a player HASN'T succeeded elsewhere doesn't mean that he CAN'T.
 

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Hostile said:
The last time I responded to him and you thought it was directed at you, you came off looking silly.

Slow learner?

You want proof he has an agenda?

Click on his username. Click on "Find all threads started by user."

The proof is in the pudding.
So because he has an agenda makes you immune to the same ailment?

The cool thing about you is that even when you don't have a point you think you are schooling people.

Delusion rules!!

Check your own posts and all the arguing you did against Bledsoe not so much because you didn't like him but moreso because Nors DID like him.

You have what 20k posts and I am still waiting on you to make a relevant or revealing football point. 90% of your posts could be entitled "Posts by someone who likes to argue more than he likes football!"
 

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jterrell said:
HAHAHA.

Agenda?

What agenda is it to attack a guy who put in the best QB performance we have had in 8 years? I guess its Bledasoe's fault we couldn't run the ball too?

I have an agenda. I want Dallas to have a QB in place when this awesome team that BP is supposed to be building is ready to compete for a Superbowl.

Drew Bledsoe will not be the man 3+ years down the road. It is debatable now, but to play devil's advocate he will do just fine the next two years, now what about the future when this team is supposed to be peaking?

Again, I am not totally sold on Chris Simms, but he is just an example of a young QB who could have been drafted to set the ground work for the future. Byron Leftwich as you mentioned. Maybe Jason Campbell, Charlie Frye, J.P. Losman, or Matt Schaub could have been our answer.

Maybe none of those guys turn out maybe some do. Odds are one of those teams have found their answer at QB, where as Dallas does not even know what the question is.

Like I said, I do have an agenda. Teams that find young franchise QBs to build around have better chances of winning a superbowl, and contending year in and year out.


So there you go, there is my agenda.
 

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superpunk said:
And another thing. Rich Gannon. He had been mediocre, even awful. The Raiders went with him, and almost won a super bowl. Had they judged him on past performances, would they have ever made it there? Just because a player HASN'T succeeded elsewhere doesn't mean that he CAN'T.
Another QB that never won was Jim Plunket with the Patriots, He moseys over to the raiders and guess what he finds. Hmmmm... a lombardi trophy. The Snake sucked in Houston, Stabler moved to the Raiders and became a good QB. Didn't the skins win a superbowl with Doug Williams of the sucky Bucaneers, who moved to washington and won a damn SUPERBOWL.....imagine that.

Now what were you saying about a leopard never changing its spots? Superpunk knows what he speaks about.
 

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Hostile said:
I thought there were no options.

Now there's an option.

I wonder how much of his gears he ground off changing directions like that?
Again feel respond to me directly not in third person. I promise I wont cry.

I like Culpepper and would prefer him to Bledsoe. Can we get him is the question? I'd also prefer Palmer, Manning or Staubach in his prime but it doesn't make it realistic.
 

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superpunk said:
And another thing. Rich Gannon. He had been mediocre, even awful. The Raiders went with him, and almost won a super bowl. Had they judged him on past performances, would they have ever made it there? Just because a player HASN'T succeeded elsewhere doesn't mean that he CAN'T.

I liked Rich Gannon. He was a mobile QB who could make something happen when the protection broke down.
 

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I voted Yes because if you give him some more time to look downfield he can still get it done... One more year of Drew then its time to start looking if Henson and Romo aren't going to be the answers
 

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The one thing that most people agree about is that our defense is perhaps one year and 2-3 players away from being dominant. I keep thinking about Chicago this season that Ravens team that won the Super Bowl with Trent Dilfer and it makes me feel better about our chances to win in all with an improved team around Bledsoe next year. With an improved O-line, we could dictate tempo, protect Bledsoe's shortcomings and set-up the big play. Are we that far away?
 
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