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The guy is struggling to make it on a team that has a bunch of receivers who are on par with what the team already has.

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Jaguars vs. Matt Jones: saga continues

By Tim McClellan | May 19th, 2008

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The troubled career path for Matt Jones continues to be a bumpy one at a point in time when the competition for the wide receiver positions for the Jacksonville Jaguars are as wide open as ever.

According to reports coming out of Organized Team Activities (OTA’s) over the past week, Matt Jones has been underwhelming in his efforts.


According to one media attendee, reports coming out of OTA’s from last week indicated that Matt Jones had one of the worst practice performances that any of the coaches had ever witnessed.


At the practice today, Matt Jones did not take any repetitions during practice.

As the competition heats up, Jerry Porter is clearly rising to the top of the heap, although he did suffer a minor setback today with a slightly strained Achilles tendon. The injury was not major, but it does show the fragile nature of things for this team. Jaguars.com reported that he had his ankle iced after practice.

Also showing outstanding performances in practice today, Troy Williamson and John Broussard both showed their explosive deep speed.

Williamson continues to debunk the notion that he has issues with catching footballs, catching everything thrown in his direction.

John Broussard has continued to dazzle those in attendance at the practice session, hauling in a deep pass from Todd Bouman on a diving grab. This was a common event during training camp last year. However, the concern was that because of his willingness to sacrifice his body to make plays, that the slightly built receiver put himself at risk. During training camp last year, I made several references to concerns over his durability, and after making a terrific circus grab in the first game of the season, he was injured the majority of the season. Hopefully, with a season in the training regimen of an NFL franchise, he has bulked up enough to be more durable without sacrificing speed.

Mike Walker, who participated in practice last week, did not partake in the session this morning. His return last week was somewhat of a surprise based on the fact that the team had given every indication that he would not begin working on the field with the team until training camp.

The level of competition at the wide receiver position is as wide open as it can be at this point. The only sure lock is Jerry Porter, and according to all reports, he has been impressive in shorts for the first few practices. Behind him, things are wide open.

With Matt Jones starting slowly out of the gates, the concern now arises that he has basically decided that he is done with the Jaguars, and he is simply going through the motions. On the other side, Jack Del Rio has decided that he is not going to succumb to the lack of effort on the part of his former first rounder by trading or releasing the player. Rather, the coach has decided to sit on his receiver to see if he turns things around between now and the end of training camp. If he does, the Jaguars will have some difficult decisions to make. If he does not, then the move to unload Matt Jones will become a no-brainer.

No matter what happens with Matt Jones, the Jaguars will be a significantly improved passing offense in 2008. The added talent is already proving itself, and the rest of the players on the roster are keenly aware of the fact that nothing is guaranteed this year. Wide receiver will be one of the most interesting position battles over the next few months.

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M. Jones needs to show more effort or the Jaguars should let him go


By SAM BORDEN, The Times-Union

This is hardly the first time someone has criticized Matt Jones, hardly the first time someone has wondered out loud about his attitude. The difference this time is that it is now Jones' head coach who is doing the wondering. This isn't message board stuff anymore. This is real.

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Jones has two choices now that Jack Del Rio has called him out: He can change or he can stay the same. If he changes, if this is a wake-up call for him, then great. Everyone wins. If he stays the same, though, if there are still the lackadaisical jogs on running plays or the seemingly disinterested malaise that appeared during the first two weeks of the season, then the Jaguars should cut him.

Understand, this has nothing to do with Matt Jones as a person and isn't an assault on his overall character. By all accounts Jones is a wonderful human being. It still doesn't change the fact that perception matters in professional sports, and the current perception of Jones is that he doesn't care very much about his team and doesn't try very hard when the ball isn't thrown to him. Whether that's true or not is almost irrelevant. It's how it looks, and that isn't OK in a team sport. It just isn't.

Del Rio, who has never been afraid to dodge a question he didn't care to answer, didn't hesitate on Monday when asked if he was satisfied with the effort Jones was giving on plays in which he was supposed to be blocking or running a secondary pass route. "No, I'm not," Del Rio said flatly, later adding that, "I'm not comfortable with some of the body language that's exhibited."

Del Rio also said he has spoken to Jones about this problem, though he declined to give specifics of the conversation. Jones was already gone for the day when reporters were given access to the locker room, so he wasn't available for comment.

It almost doesn't matter what he says though; only what he does, especially in the next few weeks. Effort is the one thing that is supposed to be a constant with professional athletes, and coaches on every level will tell you they can live with players having lesser talent because not everyone has the same capability. Accepting lesser effort, on the other hand, isn't an option. Either you try your hardest or you go home. It's that simple in Pop Warner. It's that simple in college. It should be that simple here.

The Jaguars have options, if they need them: Charles Sharon, a receiver who impressed during training camp, is on their practice squad and there are myriad receivers who come across the waiver wire every week. If Jones isn't going to give an effort the coaches deem acceptable, there's no reason to reward him with a roster spot.

Reggie Williams was a first-round pick, too, and he was deactivated for the season opener. He responded by catching a touchdown pass in Week 2, and there's no reason Jones shouldn't be held to the same standards. He may very well be a laid-back kind of guy off the field, but he still comes off as something less than interested on it. That apparent difference in attitude can affect coaches and players, who might feel like their unit is divided. It hurts the team.

"If you come into a room and you're smiling, you can infect people around you," Del Rio said. "A guy like Reggie Nelson, he's so full of energy. ... I think adversely on the other side sometimes when you have that more casual demeanor about you ... it can be misconstrued."

Taking a play or two off isn't unheard of in the NFL, and there is a long list of players whose demeanor is probably less than what their coaches would like. The difference is that Jones' performance hasn't reached the level where someone might be inclined to ignore his shortcomings. Making the transition from college quarterback to pro wide receiver is difficult, to be sure, but Jones certainly didn't give back any of the money he got for being a first-round pick out of Arkansas three years ago. That means he gets judged on a higher scale and that means 80 receptions and nine touchdowns in two-plus seasons isn't good enough for there to be concerns about attitude.

A year ago, there were questions about Jones' toughness, especially after he failed to make a critical tackle on a fumble return for a touchdown in the Jags' disastrous loss to Tennessee.

In an interview with a Times-Union reporter, Jones' typically-mellow persona shifted to a more bristled tone when a question about his toughness was posed. He didn't like it.

He probably won't like this either. It doesn't matter. There is clearly a problem here, and Jones gets the first chance to make it better. He's on the clock now. If he won't fix it, the Jaguars should.

sam.borden@jacksonville.com, (904) 359-4377

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"Understand, this has nothing to do with Matt Jones as a person and isn't an assault on his overall character. By all accounts Jones is a wonderful human being. It still doesn't change the fact that perception matters in professional sports, and the current perception of Jones is that he doesn't care very much about his team and doesn't try very hard when the ball isn't thrown to him. Whether that's true or not is almost irrelevant. It's how it looks, and that isn't OK in a team sport. It just isn't."

That was my favorite part.

I don't deny that the situation in Jacksonville isn't good. I never have.

That's why I'm hoping that he'll be traded. Both sides are just wasting their time. He doesn't want to be there, and they don't want him.
 

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stasheroo;2108869 said:
"Understand, this has nothing to do with Matt Jones as a person and isn't an assault on his overall character. By all accounts Jones is a wonderful human being. It still doesn't change the fact that perception matters in professional sports, and the current perception of Jones is that he doesn't care very much about his team and doesn't try very hard when the ball isn't thrown to him. Whether that's true or not is almost irrelevant. It's how it looks, and that isn't OK in a team sport. It just isn't."

That was my favorite part.

I don't deny that the situation in Jacksonville isn't good. I never have.

That's why I'm hoping that he'll be traded. Both sides are just wasting their time. He doesn't want to be there, and they don't want him.

I am sure it was just as i am sure that Del Rio is talking about it becasue hes IS sure.

The dude gave up. Thats a good sign of a loser.

of all the troubled guys we have brought in there was never any question about their heart or effort on the field. this guy is dogging it hardcore right now in Jacksonville and this is the guy you want to bring in?

like i said, no thanks. i like my players to have cajones.
 

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stasheroo;2108869 said:
"Understand, this has nothing to do with Matt Jones as a person and isn't an assault on his overall character. By all accounts Jones is a wonderful human being. It still doesn't change the fact that perception matters in professional sports, and the current perception of Jones is that he doesn't care very much about his team and doesn't try very hard when the ball isn't thrown to him. Whether that's true or not is almost irrelevant. It's how it looks, and that isn't OK in a team sport. It just isn't."

That was my favorite part.

I don't deny that the situation in Jacksonville isn't good. I never have.

That's why I'm hoping that he'll be traded. Both sides are just wasting their time. He doesn't want to be there, and they don't want him.
and neither do we. he's garbage and will not be a cowboy. why are you hanging on to such a bad player?
 

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Anyone here have or observe a personality clash with/between a coach or player? Stories to tell.
 

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Rampage;2108875 said:
and neither do we. he's garbage and will not be a cowboy. why are you hanging on to such a bad player?

ok here we go Miles Austin and hurd.:rolleyes: Hes better then both of them if he wants to be.He probably hates playing for jerk del rio and with garbage QBs.
 

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juckie;2109020 said:
ok here we go Miles Austin and hurd.:rolleyes: Hes better then both of them if he wants to be.He probably hates playing for jerk del rio and with garbage QBs.

Yeah cause its so obvious that Del Rio has issues getting his players to buy in.

The man has taken a team that was in the toilet and has produced each and every year since 2003 he has not had a losing season except his first year and gotten pretty much every other player to buy in.

I just did a cursory search and could find no other players having issues with Del Rio.

Of all the people on that team Matt Jones just cannot seem to get it and now has COMPLETELY GIVEN UP.

Jack Del Rio gets him to shag routes and give up on blocks. Jack Del Rio is the reason why he shows absolutely no effort in practice.

No Matt Jones is the reason all of that goes on and he has no place in the NFL much less on the Dallas Cowboys.
 

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stasheroo;2108141 said:
It amazes me how one factor gets totally dismissed:

As you said, their "best receiver nearly matched the numbers Crayton put up"

Does anyone else wonder why that is?

no, because most believe none of the jags recievers are that good. Reggie Williams is decent, and I'd be willing to pick-up Matt Jones contract off waivers, or trade a 6th for him, but I wouldn't take a long term gamble on him
 

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DaBoys4Life;2108840 said:

Sorry if that wasn't so clear.

He is struggling to make a team that has receivers that aren't any better than the ones in dallas that he would be competing against.
 

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Manwiththeplan;2109250 said:
no, because most believe none of the jags recievers are that good. Reggie Williams is decent, and I'd be willing to pick-up Matt Jones contract off waivers, or trade a 6th for him, but I wouldn't take a long term gamble on him

And that's exactly what I'm talking about.

And if he comes to Dallas with the supposed "attitude" he has in Jacksonville, then you cut him and move on.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;2109091 said:
Yeah cause its so obvious that Del Rio has issues getting his players to buy in.

The man has taken a team that was in the toilet and has produced each and every year since 2003 he has not had a losing season except his first year and gotten pretty much every other player to buy in.

I just did a cursory search and could find no other players having issues with Del Rio.

Of all the people on that team Matt Jones just cannot seem to get it and now has COMPLETELY GIVEN UP.

Jack Del Rio gets him to shag routes and give up on blocks. Jack Del Rio is the reason why he shows absolutely no effort in practice.

No Matt Jones is the reason all of that goes on and he has no place in the NFL much less on the Dallas Cowboys.

Again, all of Jacksonville's receivers struggle, not just Matt Jones.

Do some research into how many changes that Del Rio has made to his offensive coaching staff.

Who could do well?
 

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Former QB expected to play WR/H-back

By Chris Mortensen
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Updated: March 30, 2005, 11:46 AM ET

Editor's note: Chris Mortensen's son, Alex, is a redshirt freshman quarterback at Arkansas in competition for Matt Jones' vacant position.

Steve Young, who will be inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame this summer, has long told me that one of these days there will be a football player so unique, so gifted and so different that he will cause some consternation among the NFL types who judge and coach the most talented football players in the world.

"And it's going to be up to those people, especially some offensive coordinator, to think outside the box and figure out what to do with a guy like that," Young said.

He didn't know it at the time, but Young was talking about someone available in the 2005 NFL draft -- a guy I believe is the best player in the draft.
Matt Jones is that player. Yes, the Arkansas quarterback NFL evaluators have been struggling to figure out.

Some have called him the most "intriguing" player in the draft. Or, as one personnel director asked me last week, "How's The Freak?"
Jones is a freak. Let's just remind you of his measurables again, as now officially recorded from his scouting combine and pro day workouts.

Height: 6-6¼
Weight: 242
40 time (hand-timed): 4.37 and 4.39
40 time (electronic): 4.40
Vertical jump: 39.5 inches
Standing broad jump: 10 feet, 9 inches

Let me explain how to translate some of these numbers because Jones, for the most part, is being projected as a receiver/H-back instead of a quarterback.

Based on watching Jones perform during Senior Bowl week, when he unabashedly exposed himself to playing receiver, scouts wondered about one or two things: Was he quick and explosive enough to play outside? Honestly, if Jones was not as quick as they wanted that week, it was attributed to the fact that he was playing a new position.

Give him four months to work on nothing but receiver, and you'll see plenty of quickness. Trust me.

That's what the vertical and broad jump measure: Explosiveness. Jones was among the very top athletes. He is quick. He is explosive. He also had one of the fastest 10-yard times while running his 40. His short cone drills and shuttles were just as impressive.

His hands? I think he has the best hands in the draft. He's a basketball player, gifted enough after his junior football season at Arkansas to earn a starting spot on the basketball team within two weeks of his late arrival.
"We charted every pass thrown to him during the Senior Bowl week, and [he] caught all but one," one personnel director said.

So, as a receiver, he's bigger than Southern California's Mike Williams, he's faster, he's more explosive and he might have better hands.
Some NFL teams have tried to peg him as a tight end or H-back because of his size. Jones has been truthful with NFL teams that have spoken with him. He's reluctant to play tight end.

"You know, it's funny," one AFC head coach told me last week. "We asked [Jones] about putting on some weight and playing tight end, and he made it clear that he thought it was foolish. He said, 'So you want me to put on 20 pounds and be a 4.57 guy instead of a 4.37 guy?' When you put that into context, you have to admit he makes sense. Match up a 6-6 guy who is that fast and athletic with great hands on any corner – even the tall ones – and how do you stop him?"

It was evident during the NFL meetings last week in Hawaii that Jones is perhaps the fastest riser in the draft. Because of his position switch, he had been labeled as a second-day pick, probably a fourth-round selection.
He's not going on the second day. He's a better bet to go in the top half of the second round, and he could slip into the bottom third of the first round.
"How do you ignore him?" one AFC general manager said. "He's the best athlete in the draft. It may not even be close. Honestly, he's the most mesmerizing player I've ever evaluated."

I laughed when all the official numbers came in. Selfishly, they made me look good. When I spoke with a personnel man last fall about Jones, I asked him, "What are you going to do when he runs 4.4 at the combine?"
The personnel man replied, "Well, he's not going to do that." Yeah, go ahead, just keep doubting him.

As far as anyone knows, there's never been a 6-6 guy or a 242-pounder who ran 4.37 in the 40. Jones is both 6-6 and 242 pounds.
Some have warned of "workout" warriors, citing Mike Mamula of Boston College as one who fooled everyone about his NFL potential with gaudy workout numbers.

Mamula is a bad example to bring up when talking about Jones, though. For one, I would hardly classify Jones as a workout warrior. He could get out of bed and run 4.4.

Better than that, he was one of the most productive players in the history of the Southeastern Conference and basically was even-steven with Young, the BYU flash, as a player with one of the highest yards-per-play average in NCAA history.

For the past four years, SEC coaches and defenders have marveled at Jones' freakish ability to make plays – his 2,545 rushing yards set an SEC career mark for quarterbacks.

"He was the best player in the SEC the past two years," said Ron Zook, the ex-Florida coach now at Illinois. "Now that's a mouthful. Think about the guys who have played in the SEC the past couple of years."
Quickly, the names of Auburn's Ronnie Brown and Cadillac Williams, among so many others, leaped into my mind. The SEC is loaded with NFL-caliber players.
LSU coach Nick Saban said, "Matt Jones single-handedly won more games than any player in the SEC."

South Carolina coach Lou Holtz called Jones the "MVP" of the SEC.
Mississippi State coach Sylvester Croom said, "I'm pretty sure I never have seen one like him, and I coached in [the NFL] for a lot of years. I'd take him, and … real high."

Zook added, "Here's the thing about Matt Jones that people seem to forget because he is such a freak. He is one of the most productive players I've ever seen. It's all about productivity, and the bottom line is, this guy always makes plays and he makes' em when it counts and he makes 'em against everybody else's best players. He's a winner, he's productive and he's a freak. Our guys at Florida will tell you they never saw anything like him before and probably never will again."

Florida linebacker Channing Crowder, who should be a first-rounder next month, called Jones "a blazer, unbelievably fast," and nose guard Tommy Jackson said watching film of Jones and then stepping on the field against him was a lifetime experience.

"It's amazing that a guy that big, that strong and that fast is all in one person," Jackson said. "It's not fair."

Georgia coach Mark Richt called Jones the most deceptively fast player he had ever seen.
"On any given day, he could be the most dangerous player on the field, " Richt said. "You try to take good angles on the guy, and he's still past you."
Back to production. Arkansas quarterback coach Roy Wittke provided statistics that show Jones had 88 planned runs of 10 yards or more, 10 that were 50-plus yards. That didn't even count his 2004 stats, in which he had 33 scrambles on broken pass plays for 377 yards, an 11.4-yard average per carry.

When Saban said Jones "single-handedly" won more games than any player in the SEC, he also might have meant that Jones made almost every game competitive, even the defeats. He was the only returning starter on the Arkansas offense in 2004. The Razorbacks were just 5-6, the first losing season for coach Houston Nutt. But Jones kept the team alive in near misses against Texas, Georgia and Florida.

"This guy can make a play on you when you're doing as good as you can do," Alabama defensive coordinator Joe Kines said. "Texas had some pretty good people on the field, and they never laid a glove on him."
In fact, when legendary ABC play-by-play man Keith Jackson marveled over Vince Young's splendid performance in Texas' Rose Bowl win over Michigan, he wondered what planet Young was from and whether he had ever seen anybody like him. I chuckled. I had seen Jones, who was bigger, faster, more athletic and had a better arm than Young in their meeting when Texas squeaked out a 22-20 win over Arkansas early in the season. That night, Jones was again the best player on a field that included Young, not to mention Cedric Benson and Derrick Johnson, two Longhorns projected to go in the top 12 of next month's draft.

Jones was even more productive running the ball from the quarterback spot than Michael Vick was at Virginia Tech. Yet, even though Jones is more than a half-foot taller than Vick with almost identical 40 times (Vick ran a hand-timed 4.37 at his first mini-camp with the Falcons), NFL scouts have all but dismissed Jones as a quarterback prospect because he is unorthodox while Vick obviously throws lasers.

I think I'm OK with that thinking. Jones has a troubled right shoulder, which was hurt in his freshman year shortly after basketball season. The shoulder never allowed Jones to work at high volume at quarterback during practice, and it might have limited the team's passing game. But he still was pretty effective throwing the ball: He threw for almost 6,000 yards and 53 touchdowns in his career.

There is one other part of Jones that bothers some scouts. It's his somewhat lackadaisical body language. "Nonchalant" is what I've heard. Does he really love the game? Does it really matter to him?

Well, go back to that Texas game. Jones fumbled inside the Texas 20-yard line on an extra effort scramble in the final minutes. Arkansas probably wins the game if he doesn't fumble. He cried hard in a closed locker room after the game. His heart was broken.

A few weeks later, Arkansas got throttled by undefeated Auburn 38-20. It wasn't an upset, but when a few Arkansas players were a little too jovial on Jones' bus after the game, he snapped at them. Doesn't care? This is also a guy who passed up basketball – a game he truly loves – in his senior year to get ready for the NFL.

True, Jones is different. But that gene, or whatever it is, that projects this "nonchalance" is the same one that allowed him as a child to sleep through a tornado that ravaged his house in Fort Smith, Ark., according to his dad, Steve, who also was Matt's high school coach. It's the same calming gene that allowed Jones to thrive under pressure as a collegiate player.


Nutt, who admits Jones' personality tested him at times, loves to tell how Jones almost put him over the edge in the final minute of Arkansas' SEC West championship game against LSU in 2002. LSU led 20-13 with less than a minute to play. LSU was about to punt as Nutt sought out his quarterback.
"There he was, sitting back alone by the Gatorade, towel over his head, and as I get closer to him, Matt's singing to himself, or humming, 'do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do,'" Nutt says, recalling the hilarity of the moment. "I tell Matt, 'Come on, Matt, a little urgency here. We've got 37 seconds left, we gotta get the plays called, get in and out of the huddle, and get it done.'"
Jones looked at Nutt.

"No problem, coach," Jones said. "I got it."

Jones, who at that point was 2-of-13 passing against Saban's talented, tenacious defense, got the ball at his own 20. In three plays, including two perfectly thrown passes -- the latter a 31-yarder to Decori Birmingham with nine seconds left -- Jones led Arkansas for 80 yards in a stunning 21-20 victory that propelled the Razorbacks to the SEC title game.
"Darndest thing I ever saw," Nutt said.

Some athletes are just more graceful than others. Joe DiMaggio made baseball look easy. Pete Rose made it look like work. Jones is more DiMaggio than Rose.

Back to Steve Young's precept that it will take an offensive coordinator with the brains and brawn to use the gifts of a once-in-a-lifetime athlete best.
The red zone, whether you put the ball in Jones' hands as a receiver or a quarterback, would seem to be one obvious frontier.
Arkansas led the SEC in red zone scoring with 87.5 percent efficiency in 2004, and most of those scores were touchdowns.

The Razorbacks also had uncanny success and drama playing overtime games. In fact, Jones arrived on the national scene as a true freshman when he locked horns with Eli Manning in a classic seven-overtime game in which Arkansas beat Ole Miss 58-56. As a junior he led the Razorbacks to another seven-overtime win, 71-63 over Kentucky.
College overtimes are basically red zone games. The ball is given to each team at the opponents' 25.

"I just know this," Nutt said. "You put the ball [in] the kid's hands in those situations and he's going to find a way to win the game at any level. Red zone, or whatever. On any given play, he can run or pass for 80 yards." Matt Jones won't be among the top 10 players selected in the April 23-24 draft, but I will venture to say that he'll play in more Pro Bowls than almost any of those guys.
 

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So the evaluation of Matt Jones was that he'd need an OC with brains & brawn to bring out his best. Hmm. Sorry, still don't see how it hurts the Cowboys to sign him after he's cut. Obviously it would be better if we could get him prior to TC so he has time to learn & Garrett can work with him but frankly I think Del Rio, as part of the punishment of Jones, isn't going to give him a chance to succeed anywhere else (especially the high profile Cowboys) and thus embarrass Del Rio and the Jags. Hence he cuts him after TC when Jones would have the most difficulty making another team's roster so this discussion is really moot unless Jerry gets enough good info from his Arkansas contacts to still go ahead & sign Jones. If Arkansas contacts are negative about Matt & knew even more about his problems (whatever they may be) in Jax, then Jerry simply doesn't go after him/sign him. So what are so many screaming about even bringing him in for a look see.
 

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sago1;2109441 said:
So the evaluation of Matt Jones was that he'd need an OC with brains & brawn to bring out his best. Hmm. Sorry, still don't see how it hurts the Cowboys to sign him after he's cut. Obviously it would be better if we could get him prior to TC so he has time to learn & Garrett can work with him but frankly I think Del Rio, as part of the punishment of Jones, isn't going to give him a chance to succeed anywhere else (especially the high profile Cowboys) and thus embarrass Del Rio and the Jags. Hence he cuts him after TC when Jones would have the most difficulty making another team's roster so this discussion is really moot unless Jerry gets enough good info from his Arkansas contacts to still go ahead & sign Jones. If Arkansas contacts are negative about Matt & knew even more about his problems (whatever they may be) in Jax, then Jerry simply doesn't go after him/sign him. So what are so many screaming about even bringing him in for a look see.

when is 53 man roster cuts because IDK if they can do that b4 TC.
 

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Not necessarily a Matt Jones to Dallas guy but the guy does have skills that we don't currently have. I guess almost any team in the NFL could say that though as the guy is a freak of nature.

I see points for both sides. I would say that this guy has done nothing bad as far as fitting on a team. I mean, look at TO. Not saying Jones has TO talent but he does have TO skills. And he looks like Capt America compared to TO and Pacman.

I wouldn't be upset for us to give him a chance. I definitely don't want this guy going to someone else in the NFC and esp in the East. He is a matchup problem.
 

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jobberone;2109509 said:
Not necessarily a Matt Jones to Dallas guy but the guy does have skills that we don't currently have. I guess almost any team in the NFL could say that though as the guy is a freak of nature.

I see points for both sides. I would say that this guy has done nothing bad as far as fitting on a team. I mean, look at TO. Not saying Jones has TO talent but he does have TO skills. And he looks like Capt America compared to TO and Pacman.

I wouldn't be upset for us to give him a chance. I definitely don't want this guy going to someone else in the NFC and esp in the East. He is a matchup problem.

That's definitely my feeling.

And people can question how he practices, but the last time the Jaguars actually let him play, the guy played well.

On the field with talents like Owens and Witten drawing coverages away from him, opposing defenses would have great difficulty matching up with someone with Jones' size and speed.
 

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The NFL is the mortar for freaks of nature though, Stash. However, I know Del Rio can be very old school about attitudes and the like about team. So I can see how Jones might have gotten on his bad side. And once that happens you can't walk on water correctly or well.

He definitely either needs to change some peoples minds about him in JAX or probably better needs a change in scenery. I think he has at least another shot and likely a couple or more left before he is in danger of fading away. On the other hand he is definitely behind in the count.
 

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Poor Matt...seems like a real Love/Hate relationship on this board. I don't understand why anyone would have a problem bringing him in to see what he could do...might be a cheap solution for the team and help us immediately.
 
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