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They just added Sting to the WWE2k15 game, the commercial looks awesome. I have a feeling he is really working out right now to get in shape.
 

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Personally I cannot see him beating their self appointed Superman Cena. What would the kids think?

Oh I can. Look no further than Creative picking him to be the one to end Undertaker's Wrestlemania streak.
 

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Oh I can. Look no further than Creative picking him to be the one to end Undertaker's Wrestlemania streak.

Yep. There is that and the fact that when Brock returned early last year his first match was at an Extreme PPV against Cena and they had Cena defeat him. Lesnar hasn't faced Cena since so I can see them allowing him to beat Cena now to get that win back.

It would also allow them to take the belt off of Cena and give Lesnar a couple of months of being an unbeatable champion who it doesn't look like anyone can dethrone until they allow some big face they want to give a major win to, in order to build them (thinking Roman Reigns here), to defeat him.
 

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Well guys it's obvious I do not understand this "creative" stuff because I do not understand giving a belt to a guy who is never there.

They have Bray lose almost every PPV & he's there every show. What about him getting a belt? Why not reward some of these guys who do all the grunt work for the company with something instead of this guy who just flits in for a month or whatever.

I know it's business.

I can see why that Punk guy left. It must frustrate the hell out of some of these guys the way their character is written.
 

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Yep. There is that and the fact that when Brock returned early last year his first match was at an Extreme PPV against Cena and they had Cena defeat him. Lesnar hasn't faced Cena since so I can see them allowing him to beat Cena now to get that win back.

It would also allow them to take the belt off of Cena and give Lesnar a couple of months of being an unbeatable champion who it doesn't look like anyone can dethrone until they allow some big face they want to give a major win to, in order to build them (thinking Roman Reigns here), to defeat him.

With Guardians of the Galaxy coming out, you do not see Batista getting the title? Marketing purposes?
 

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Well guys it's obvious I do not understand this "creative" stuff because I do not understand giving a belt to a guy who is never there.

They have Bray lose almost every PPV & he's there every show. What about him getting a belt? Why not reward some of these guys who do all the grunt work for the company with something instead of this guy who just flits in for a month or whatever.

I know it's business.

I can see why that Punk guy left. It must frustrate the hell out of some of these guys the way their character is written.

I think part of Punk's problem(not saying he is wrong), but thinks because guys work hard, they deserve the title, when we all know it is about marketing. Ex: Back in the day, if IRS(Irwin R. Schyster, Bray Wyatts daddy), was the hardest working guy, he should get the belt, when we all know, none of us would really want that.
 

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I think part of Punk's problem(not saying he is wrong), but thinks because guys work hard, they deserve the title, when we all know it is about marketing. Ex: Back in the day, if IRS(Irwin R. Schyster, Bray Wyatts daddy), was the hardest working guy, he should get the belt, when we all know, none of us would really want that.

I get that but it seems to be a business where if you work hard you may not actually be rewarded while others step over you because they sell more tshirts or foam fingers.

The "business" side of it would drive me nuts. I mean I just started watching & I can tell which guys are just there & which guys are the ones that will be given big chances.

And Bray is popular. People respond to him but I don't see him getting any belts anytime soon. Do you?

He loses almost every PPV that I have seen talked about on here.
 

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I get that but it seems to be a business where if you work hard you may not actually be rewarded while others step over you because they sell more tshirts or foam fingers.

The "business" side of it would drive me nuts. I mean I just started watching & I can tell which guys are just there & which guys are the ones that will be given big chances.

And Bray is popular. People respond to him but I don't see him getting any belts anytime soon. Do you?

He loses almost every PPV that I have seen talked about on here.

I think they book Bray to lose because, at least to me, his character isn't concerned with winning and losing just the mind games he plays with his opponents. His recent program with Cena was about trying to get him to embrace the dark side so to speak.

He's far from the jobber that a guy like Zach Ryder is. Ryders job anymore, notwithstanding his recent win over the movie ticket guy, is to make his opponent look good. He may get some offense in, maybe look like he could win before being defeated.
 

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Oh I can. Look no further than Creative picking him to be the one to end Undertaker's Wrestlemania streak.

Ok. I see that dingy guy talking about this over & over on RAW.

If undertaker had this magnificent career there with this streak going on wouldn't they let him have some say in that match? Maybe he told them I won't be back & ok end it.

If he didn't & they chose to let that Brock guy win they really have no respect for him. Let him keep that. He's owed that just for tenure if nothing else.
 

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I think they book Bray to lose because, at least to me, his character isn't concerned with winning and losing just the mind games he plays with his opponents. His recent program with Cena was about trying to get him to embrace the dark side so to speak.

He's far from the jobber that a guy like Zach Ryder is. Ryders job anymore, notwithstanding his recent win over the movie ticket guy, is to make his opponent look good. He may get some offense in, maybe look like he could win before being defeated.

I have a feeling I'll be waiting a long time for Bray to win any belt. Which just seems wrong. At least let his guys win the tag belts instead of fighting those guys 10 times and only beating them when it doesn't matter.

Like that Ziggler guy. I watch & he's very good. He's there week after week kicking it & has crowd support & they give the belt to that guy Miz. Who just came back right?

I just cannot figure out their thinking. It's strange how they work.
 

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I don't care about that Lesnar guy mainly because I cannot stand that manager of his that talks for 20 minutes every show.
Lesner can't talk. Just like Emmitt he really struggles speaking in front of the camera. So we get Paul Heyman. Yes he can really talk.
Impressive although I still,don't understand why he suddenly gets a shot at a title.
Just like The Rock could show up and get a title shot, Lesner is looked at in the same light. A former champ coming off a win over the UT makes him a main eventer immediately if he wasn't already.
Personally I cannot see him beating their self appointed Superman Cena.
It's completely understandable to think that. But I honestly I expect Lesner to win the belts. Lesner is look at as almost being unbeatable. Cena is holding the belts because he is a "safe" champion and there is no shame in losing to Lesner. Looking down the road, if Lesner were to beat Cena, look what it would do for Roman Reigns career if he were to beat Lesner for the belts. That is why I think Lesner beats Cena.
Like that Ziggler guy. I watch & he's very good. He's there week after week kicking it & has crowd support & they give the belt to that guy Miz. Who just came back right?
The Miz has a new movie out. It could be that simple. Also remember he is a former world champion who has main evented Wrestlemania and hosted his own segment called "Miz TV" FWIW.
 
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If undertaker had this magnificent career there with this streak going on wouldn't they let him have some say in that match? Maybe he told them I won't be back & ok end it.
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Oh you better believe they talked about the match outcome with him, beforehand. In fact, I think I saw somewhere that it was, if not outright known, then strongly speculated that Mark (Undertaker) had actually been the one to suggest the outcome, and for his streak to finally end against Brock. I think the ending wasn't what they had scripted though, due to his getting really injured in the match, but Brock actually covered that pretty well I thought. But it's almost a certainty that Mark at the very least gave his tacit approval to the outcome of the match.
 

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Lesner can't talk. Just like Emmitt he really struggles speaking in front of the camera. So we get Paul Heyman. Yes he can really talk.

Just like The Rock could show up and get a title shot, Lesner is looked at in the same light. A former champ coming off a win over the UT makes him a main eventer immediately if he wasn't already.

It's completely understandable to think that. But I honestly I expect Lesner to win the belts. Lesner is look at as almost being unbeatable. Cena is holding the belts because he is a "safe" champion and there is no shame in losing to Lesner. Looking down the road, if Lesner were to beat Cena, look what it would do for Roman Reigns career if he were to beat Lesner for the belts. That is why I think Lesner beats Cena.

The Miz has a new movie out. It could be that simple. Also remember he is a former world champion who has main evented Wrestlemania and hosted his own segment called "Miz TV" FWIW.

I think then it goes without saying that WWE is a business where you may or may not be rewarded for your hard work. It seems that may not be enough,

I have gotten where I ff over that Heymann guy. He says the same thing over & over & while I realize his purpose is to make people mad to me he's boring as hell to me. I don't mind the bad guy aspect of his character but the over & over stuff with him is too much for me.
 

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Lesner can't talk.

Well there's the understatement of the year :D

Hey, here's an idea, use that inability. Have WWE team up with Marvel Studios to make a new Hulk film with Brock being Hulk. Then have Brock "talk" on his own, "BROCK SMASH!" That's all he ever says. lolol

The Miz has a new movie out. It could be that simple. Also remember he is a former world champion who has main evented Wrestlemania and hosted his own segment called "Miz TV" FWIW.

Yep to all of that. I actually like his Miz TV stuff...really? Really? REALLY!? ha ha ha
 

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Oh you better believe they talked about the match outcome with him, beforehand. In fact, I think I saw somewhere that it was, if not outright known, then strongly speculated that Mark (Undertaker) had actually been the one to suggest the outcome, and for his streak to finally end against Brock. I think the ending wasn't what they had scripted though, due to his getting really injured in the match, but Brock actually covered that pretty well I thought. But it's almost a certainty that Mark at the very least gave his tacit approval to the outcome of the match.

Good to know. I think he was owed that.
 

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To me as seeing Brock for the first time just recently he looks like his head has been put in a vise. He's square up top.

What a weird looking guy. He also sweats a lot. Stage fright? He looked Monday like he wanted to puke.
 

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With Guardians of the Galaxy coming out, you do not see Batista getting the title? Marketing purposes?

When does Batista come back? Currently he's 'quit' the WWE again. So I don't know when they're going to give him the title because I don't know when, or if, he's returning.
 

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They sure have a ton of wrestlers that act.

I guess Hollyweird figures they act in their jobs so they'd be good in a movie.
 

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Dwayne Johnson isn't a bad actor. He's not great but he has charisma.

I would think if the WWE is losing so much money they would not invest in the movie industry though. It is precarious at best. You can lose millions easily.
 
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