Yea, another R.Williams Question

[khiladi]

I think you would tell by physical appearance if he was on/off roids he wasn't go some where with that. It's a shame if he doesn't test positive then it means he isn't on roids don't accuse of him stuff because you thing it could possible might of happen. I would believe brett farve was on HGH or ROids be4 i would believe that RW was that streak is unheard of at the QB position i might add.

Actually, I say it's the other way around. Roy looks like he is doing the HGH, because his head seems to have gotten bigger, and he's bulkier. This happens for some users...

 

[Romo2Dez4six]

Gotta love "holier-than-thou" attitudes.


Is Newman not on Dallas anymore ???

newman is not a FA next year he will be in a contract year

 

[Vtwin]

Say what you want about Roy's season, but he allowed only one catch for 6 yards on Sunday. Reeves allowed five catches, Henry four, Roy one and Hamlin one, with the other completion being a screen pass.

Is that the best you got?As you are always quick to point out, SS's are not supposed to be strong pass defenders.Let me ask you this: Did RW make any significant plays? The kind you would expect from a top draft choice and big money maker?How did RW justify his pick and his salary both during the entire season and more specifically, in the loss to the Giants?

 

[Cowboyz88]

Ok agenda boy ..... you keep crying all next year when Roy is our starting SS and gets voted to another pro bowl by his peers ....

Oooohhhh, you got me. You stand up for your one-tackle man.

Roy has a bad season and it's my fault. What a joke.

At least your leader, Adam, can actually discuss football intelligently without resorting to name calling and childish retorts.

Carry on.

Gotta love "holier-than-thou" attitudes.

Not that anyone asked you, but I've made point after point about Roy's declining play to Z all year and received mostly name calling or "You tell 'em Adam" responses (in other words not rational discussion), so if you think it's "holier-than-thou" mentality, perhaps you should consider who I am actually speaking to.

 

[khiladi]

Ok so you dont think roy had anything to do with that 19 yard completion to boss right before the half.

I mean he was only sitting in zone 15 yards deep watching for that exact play when the ball goes right past him.

The problem is Todd Collins and Eli Manning had no fear, they just stare down the guys reeves and williams covered and then threw the ball there, and reeves and williams strategy of let em catch it and then tackle them is a critical flaw.

but if your stats dont tell you that roy had anything to do with that pass to boss that is fine. I will agree to disagree. But had roy had any ability to make a play on the ball manning doesnt even throw that ball, but he did and he completed it and we all know why.

Nice point, as I've been stating... It is called zone coverage, and Roy has a responsibility to cover to a point, and then hand off the receiver to the zone. If he is getting burned, than spacing is his fault, and not simply Reeves. You have to zip a pass in-between Roy, Reeves, and the sideline.

That is difficult in zone, unless certain people aren't doing their job...

 

[Mavs Man]

6 pages minimum.

:signmast:

:laugh2:

 

[Vtwin]

Ok so you dont think roy had anything to do with that 19 yard completion to boss right before the half.

I mean he was only sitting in zone 15 yards deep watching for that exact play when the ball goes right past him.

The problem is Todd Collins and Eli Manning had no fear, they just stare down the guys reeves and williams covered and then threw the ball there, and reeves and williams strategy of let em catch it and then tackle them is a critical flaw.

but if your stats dont tell you that roy had anything to do with that pass to boss that is fine. I will agree to disagree. But had roy had any ability to make a play on the ball manning doesnt even throw that ball, but he did and he completed it and we all know why.

And that is exactly his problem. He plays like he doesn't understand the game. Sure he knows that he supposed to run to this spot and cover that zone but he doesn't seem to have the smarts to apply any instincts to the instructions he has received. Even though you are responsible for a certain area you have to adjust and react to the play as it unfolds.

 

[theebs]

Gotta love "holier-than-thou" attitudes.


Is Newman not on Dallas anymore ???

jerry was talking about safeties.

And dont get mad at me, I am just relaying what jerry told norm this morning.

 

[Rampage]

Oooohhhh, you got me. You stand up for your one-tackle man.

Roy has a bad season and it's my fault. What a joke.

At least your leader, Adam, can actually discuss football intelligently without resorting to name calling and childish retorts.

Carry on.



Not that anyone asked you, but I've made point after point about Roy's declining play to Z all year and received mostly name calling or "You tell 'em Adam" responses (in other words not rational discussion), so if you think it's "holier-than-thou" mentality, perhaps you should consider who I am actually speaking to.

:laugh2:

 

[zrinkill]

Oooohhhh, you got me. You stand up for your one-tackle man.

Roy has a bad season and it's my fault. What a joke.

At least your leader, Adam, can actually discuss football intelligently without resorting to name calling and childish retorts.

The only "name calling" has been started by you and your life partner Rampage/Big badroy.

You boys just get upset when you are pummeled by the truth.

If you are gonna survive on this board, you had better get used to people calling you out on stupid statements.

 

[Rampage]

The only "name calling" has been started by you and your life partner Rampage/Big badroy.

You boys just get upset when you are pummeled by the truth.

If you are gonna survive on this board, you had better get used to people calling you out on stupid statements.

:laugh2: than i guess everybody in this thread is making stupid statements other than you,statboy, and your newest pup

 

[JPM]

jerry was talking about safeties.

And dont get mad at me, I am just relaying what jerry told norm this morning.

I'm not mad at all, sorry you took it that way.

 

[zrinkill]

than i guess everybody in this thread is making stupid statements other than you,statboy, and your newest pup

Nope ..... just the usual suspects ..... like I have already pointed out "bigbadroy" :laugh2:

 

[Cowboyz88]

The only "name calling" has been started by you and your life partner Rampage/Big badroy.

You boys just get upset when you are pummeled by the truth.

If you are gonna survive on this board, you had better get used to people calling you out on stupid statements.

Funny, you wouldn't know "truths" if they punched you in the face.

Read these truths — in 2007 Roy had tackles, 2 garbage-time INTs and nothing else, topped off by a mind-numbing one tackle in the biggest game of the year. Since you can't argue that rationally (or statistically or maturely), I'll be expecting your name calling at any time.

Something tells me I'll survive you calling me out on Roy — it's like akin to being challenged to a fight by Clay Aiken.

 

[zrinkill]

Funny, you wouldn't know "truths" if they punched you in the face.

Read these truths — in 2007 Roy had tackles, 2 garbage-time INTs and nothing else, topped off by a mind-numbing one tackle in the biggest game of the year. Since you can't argue that rationally (or statistically or maturely), I'll be expecting your name calling at any time.

Something tells me I'll survive you calling me out on Roy — it's like akin to being challenged to a fight by Clay Aiken.

I see I have already got you upset. But you can take your pathetic threats else ware son.

As far as those stats ..... compare that with other strong safeties in the league ..... then you and bigbadroy put your heads together and think on why the other NFL players and coaches voted him into yet another Pro Bowl.

Have a nice day.

 

[Rampage]

Ok compare that with other strong safeties in the league ..... then you and bigbadroy put your heads together and think on why the other NFL players and coaches voted him into yet another Pro Bowl.

do you think that every player and coach really takes the time out to look over every player for the probowl during the season?

 

[zrinkill]

do you think that every player and coach really takes the time out to look over every player for the probowl during the season?

Do you think they would pick someone as bad as you agenda boys claim Roy is? I mean they at least know the names of the other Strong Safeties in the league.

 

[Rampage]

Do you think they would pick someone as bad as you agenda boys claim Roy is? I mean they at least know the names of the other Strong Safeties in the league.

if he is so great how come more and more people on this board want him gone? oh i know it's the same old people. people like theebs and sarge even want him gone or benched. they never went against roy but now they can't deny the fact that he is holding this team back.

 

[zrinkill]

if he is so great how come more and more people on this board want him gone? oh i know it's the same old people. people like theebs and sarge even want him gone or benched. they never went against roy but now they can't deny the fact that he is holding this team back.

I have never denied that Roy had a bad year based on the bar that he himself set at strong safety.

Yet he was still one of the best strong safeties in the league this year. If he was playing free safety he would have had an abysmal year.

He has not played like a Superstar in 2 years ...... but he is far from the weak link on our D.

We have alot bigger problems than Roy Williams as our starting safety and I guarantee that if we cut him right now he would be starting on at least 30 different teams by next year (probably the Commanders)

 

[Oh_Canada]

When your Strong safety makes zero tackles behind the LOS all YEAR.....he is becoming a diminishing asset in my eyes.