Zack Martin update - based on Jerry Jones comments

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If it's true that Martin is just asking for more money and still wants to be UFA at the same time, then that's a prick move.
Again unless Martin and his agent are idiots, there is no way they are asking for a deal where Jerry pays him a crap ton of money next year but that they dont extend the contract beyond 2024.

Jerry is just babbling at this point to cover his butt on this. That's it.
 

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There’s a way around the fines too. The new contract can simply add in to compensate , probably with signing bonus . C’mon Reid. You’re smarter than that .
so you think th eteam is going to double whammy themselves??? not a chance. The teams wanted this language in these deals for a reason. To simply help the player not have to pay the fine would be incredibly stupid on their part.... and they are not stupid.
 

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Again unless Martin and his agent are idiots, there is no way they are asking for a deal where Jerry pays him a crap ton of money next year but that they dont extend the contract beyond 2024.

Jerry is just babbling at this point to cover his butt on this. That's it.
he doesnt need to cover his butt. He has made it extremely clea where he stands on giving martin more money. You just arent listening.
 

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I think it's more like Jerry is babbling and in defense mode. You can't take him seriously and can't deduce from his ramblings as to what Martin wants.
Ramblings??? I suggest you actually listen. he has been very clear... no ramblings except to those that dont listen.
 

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Simply put, this O-line will turn south real fast without our future HoF stud lining up. Extend his contract and show him the $$$$.
How many playoff games have we won WITH martin??????he will not be the reason we win or do not win a SB. Does he help? Obviously.... but just give the man more money as you suggest is not the answer.
 

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he doesnt need to cover his butt. He has made it extremely clea where he stands on giving martin more money. You just arent listening.
Last week it was they were dug in and he needed the money to sign other players. Now it's we can pay him but want a certain length of contract.

Jerry is trying to manipulate the narrative and make it look like Martin is the bad guy here. And you guys are falling for it. It's amazing how many fans actually put stock and credence into what Jerry babbles.
 

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Ramblings??? I suggest you actually listen. he has been very clear... no ramblings except to those that dont listen.
I listened to it. I also listened to his comments and the teams' comments in previous weeks.

Jerry is just babbling. Under no logical thinking can one assume that what Martin wants is a huge pay increase for just one year and then get to hit FA after 2024. But Jerry is sure trying to sell it as Martin is asking for that. And you believe him, which is laughable.
 

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How many playoff games have we won WITH martin??????he will not be the reason we win or do not win a SB. Does he help? Obviously.... but just give the man more money as you suggest is not the answer.
That's not Zach's fault. And let's face it, our chances of winning another one are less without him. He is the rock of the line.
 

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Martin is playing week 1 and Micah and Ceedee will be signed. And wow at calling Parsons a possible headache. HE IS THE type of guy you pay.
please tell me where I suggested NOT paying Micah. I actually said he is likely going to get more money than any defensive player in league history.. READ SLOWLY.
 

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How many playoff games have we won WITH martin??????he will not be the reason we win or do not win a SB. Does he help? Obviously.... but just give the man more money as you suggest is not the answer.
I can firmly state if Martin doens't play in 2023, we have little to no shot at the SB. He's that important to the OL, especially helping Steele and Biadasz. He's that valuable to the offense. They have literally built their entire OL around him and the hope that Tyron can stay healthy.
 

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I listened to it. I also listened to his comments and the teams' comments in previous weeks.

Jerry is just babbling. Under no logical thinking can one assume that what Martin wants is a huge pay increase for just one year and then get to hit FA after 2024. But Jerry is sure trying to sell it as Martin is asking for that. And you believe him, which is laughable.
So when you met with Zack and his agent, what exactly did they tell you they were asking for?
 

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I can firmly state if Martin doens't play in 2023, we have little to no shot at the SB. He's that important to the OL, especially helping Steele and Biadasz. He's that valuable to the offense. They have literally built their entire OL around him and the hope that Tyron can stay healthy.
We are on the same page with this.
 

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I can firmly state if Martin doens't play in 2023, we have little to no shot at the SB. He's that important to the OL, especially helping Steele and Biadasz. He's that valuable to the offense. They have literally built their entire OL around him and the hope that Tyron can stay healthy.
again.... we aint been close to a SB with him... so not much would change without him.
 

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I hope they give him what he wants, I don't want to hear the crying about the offensive line being bad for another excuse different year.
 

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So when you met with Zack and his agent, what exactly did they tell you they were asking for?
I don't need to. The belief that a player could demand and get a massive pay increase for just one more season and hit FA is unprecedented in the NFL. It's illogical to think that Martin and his agent think they could get a huge pay increase under this current contract AND THEN get to hit FA after 2024 and get another massive deal.

Your flaw here is that you are swallowing what Jerry is telling you. And that's your first mistake. Jerry is very well known to just spew BS in the media and try to control the narrative on various situations. Don't fall for it.
 

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again.... we aint been close to a SB with him... so not much would change without him.
It's not hard.

Which team is more likely to win make a SB this year - one with Martin or one without?

If you say the same, then you are being foolish.
 

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Simply put, this O-line will turn south real fast without our future HoF stud lining up. Extend his contract and show him the $$$$.
not sure I agree with extend and show him the $$$$$..... is he great? yes, but can we go out and get two top 15 guards for the price of one great guard? probably. you don't go to the superbowl because you have the best guard in the league.
 

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not sure I agree with extend and show him the $$$$$..... is he great? yes, but can we go out and get two top 15 guards for the price of one great guard? probably. you don't go to the superbowl because you have the best guard in the league.
You are already taking a massive cap hit on him next year anyway and have dummy years beyond the end of his contract. So you are going to be eating cap hits for Martin regardless of what you do. So you could give him more cash, extend his deal and still have fairly manageable cap hits.

It's what I find funny about all of this - claims of you don't need an OG eating up that much cap space because it's not that important a position, somehow forgetting Martin already will eat up a huge chunk of cap space in the future. You could lower his cap hit next year, blend those dummy year cap hits and make Martin content. And yet................... here comes Jerry.
 
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