Zeke is third overall in rushing

wileedog

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Yes, you can't provide a single example in the last 10 years of a rookie RB doing markedly better in his first three games, but that's okay sunshine. You just stick to your guns, the BB guns that they are.
Show me an example of a rookie RB drafted top 5 into a system with a premiere NFL offense and I will gladly make the comparison.

In the meantime keeping making up childish insults that add nothing to your argument nor make you sound very bright. That should work.
 

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Show me an example of a rookie RB drafted top 5 into a system with premiere NFL offense and I will gladly make the comparison.

In the meantime keeping making up childish insults that add nothing to your argument nor make you sound very bright. That should work.

Just as I figured. You claim your expectations aren't out of whack, but you literally can't point to a single counterexample. Good night, sweet Prince. I shall my enjoy my victory the rest of the eve.
 

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Yes, he's obviously better. Do you really not see how absurd you're being comparing a vet to Zeke, a rookie who is undeniably improving each week? He is literally doing better in his first three games than E. Smith and Adrian Peterson did in their first three games. People's expectations are way, way out of whack and out of touch with reality. And we did not need defensive help far more than a RB -- McFadden and Morris, while both fine pieces, were never the answer. We are a much better team with a solid run game, and Zeke will establish that for years.

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The best O line in football talk may have been true in 2014, but as far as this year, they've looked rusty when it came to run blocking. Pass blocking was solid, but there were still plenty of times Dak had to run around. Luckily, in the Chicago game, it looks like the O-line is starting to gel again, and once they do, Elliott will have some amazing games. We have to be honest though. Callahan leaving did have a noticeable effect on our O-line. They are doing an above average job, but they aren't playing as well as they were when he was here.
 

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Just as I figured. You claim your expectations aren't out of whack, but you literally can't point to a single counterexample. Good night, sweet Prince. I shall my enjoy my victory the rest of the eve.

Point out a RB drafted into a top 5 NFL offense and I will happily compare them.

Gurley is was drafted into a dumpster fire as was AP. Gurley would have been an MVP his rookie year in this system with Dak or Romo at QB.

What exactly do you want me to compare his sub 4 YPC too?

And "victory?" What are you, 12?
 

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I'm pretty sure there are few on here that would find something to ***** about if we went 19-0 and added the 6th Lombardi.
I'm pretty sure after playing .500 ball for 20 years we haven't even come close to doing anything like that.
 

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Still upset that everyone is liking my post calling your drafting hypocrisy out, eh? I'm sorry sweetie.

You actually didn't. There was no hypocrisy in anything I said. Wentz was always option one for me. Trading the pick to get more picks for defense was option 2. Ramsey was option 3 for me.

I understand this involves deeper thinking for you so....... I understand why you are having trouble grasping the concepts.
 

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Point out a RB drafted into a top 5 NFL offense and I will happily compare them.

Gurley is was drafted into a dumpster fire as was AP. Gurley would have been an MVP his rookie year in this system with Dak or Romo at QB.

What exactly do you want me to compare his sub 4 YPC too?

And "victory?" What are you, 12?

Fine, I'll open it up. Name one rookie RB aside from Gurley and AP in the last ten years who started off better than Zeke, a la 250+ yards his first three games.
 

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Yes, you can't provide a single example in the last 10 years of a rookie RB doing markedly better in his first three games, but that's okay sunshine. You just stick to your guns, the BB guns that they are.
BTW, Todd Gurley, with a crap offensive line:

2nd game 146 yards, 7.7 YPC again ARIZONA.
3rd, 159 yards, 5.3 YPC, AT GB
4th game, 128 yards, 6.7 YPC against CLE
5th game, 133 yards, 6.7 YPC against SF

This is with a craptastic OLine and Case Keenum at QB. And Gurley was drafted 10th, not 4th.

Tell me again about his historic "fantastic" start.
 

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Whatever you say, chief. Everyone disagrees with you, but you keep fighting the good fight.

Everyone? All the hundreds of posters here disagree with me?

And if you look at the people who liked your post, most are front office apologists and/or known Elliott wonks. But yeah........ Everyone.
 

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Everyone? All the hundreds of posters here disagree with me?

And if you look at the people who liked your post, most are front office apologists and/or known Elliott wonks. But yeah........ Everyone.

Yes, all 20 of them fit that description. Are you sure your tinfoil hat isn't too tight?
 

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BTW, Todd Gurley, with a crap offensive line:

2nd game 146 yards, 7.7 YPC again ARIZONA.
3rd, 159 yards, 5.3 YPC, AT GB
4th game, 128 yards, 6.7 YPC against CLE
5th game, 133 yards, 6.7 YPC against SF

This is with a craptastic OLine and Case Keenum at QB. And Gurley was drafted 10th, not 4th.

Tell me again about his historic "fantastic" start.

Yes, I acknowledge Gurley got off to a fantastic start. He's the one guy besides AP who I can think of that started off so hot. Pretty bad when you can't single out more than two guys in 10 years who did better at a position where rookies often start day one.
 

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Yeah. Pretty much all of them tend to make excuses for the front office or were huge Elliott fans.

Any person that suggests a tail back was more important than fixing the defense needs their head examined.

Yes, cupcake. Everyone is out to get you. *pats head*

I never said tailback was more important than "fixing" the defense. But anyone who thinks a rookie cornerback was going to "fix" this defense needs their head examined, whereas Zeke can "fix" the running game for a long time.
 

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In Zeke I trust.

I pity anyone not already on the Zeke wagon. I was on it when the pick was called at the draft &, out of the sheer goodness of my heart, will save several seats for your poor souls.
 

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I listened the entire time I read your response and heard nothing...so groundbreaking was a bit of an overstatement. To be fair my fan is on so...
3.9 YPC. 3.6 before playing the anemic and injured Bears. That would be a single counter point to Zeke not being off to a fantastic start.

Except that no rb in the league plays the stoutest defenses out there. Bottom line is he's near the top of the league in rushing, has 3 tds in 3 games and we have a winning record and he's improving week to week. As soon as you deal with the fact that he was the pick, is playing for the cowboys and will be our feature back for the forseeable future we will all be better for it. There are a myriad of alternate scenarios that may have been better, but we are here.
 
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