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texastwister said:
For those of you that watched the Steelers game and will watch the Bears game-Can you see the difference in those 2 defense compared too Dallas?

These defenses are aggresive and cause turnovers unlike Zimmers defense.:D
















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yeah, I see a huge difference in 3-4 familiarity, don't you?
 

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Da Hammer said:
Yeah especially the Steelers D is very tricky and well disguised on who is blitzing. they mixed it up well and thats why they confused the heck out of Manning. thats a real 3-4 D not what we showed this last year with players on O knowing who was blitzing and not mixing things up

hmmm, maybe it's Pitt's great familiarity with the 3-4 compared to our 1st year in it?
 

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Wolverine said:
If Mike Zimmer was the Steelers DC the Steelers woulda lost big today. Manning woulda been good for at least 400 yards and 5 TDs.


I look at how the Steelers DC had a game plan for the Colts and pressured Manning all day and I just shake my head wonderin *** this team is doin wastin time with that moron Zimmer. Fire him now and just get Capers here.

Capers would give us a D like the Steelers have. Mike Zimmer SUCKS!

once again, no stats or facts *tisk* *tisk*
 

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Silverstar said:
I don't think we have the LB's to be that aggressive in the 3-4. In a 3-4 defense, the LB's make most of the plays and rush the QB etc.

Now, if we went and got say....(UFA WILL WITHERSPOON!!!)...that would change IMO.

good point, and who were our OLBs for most of the year? a rookie making the transition from college DE, and a young, veteran who never played in the 3-4 ever

in the middle? a 1st year starter
 

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KingTuna said:
Because Zimmer SUCKS.......He JUST learned the 3-4 last year...That is like comparing a first grade graduate to a College professor with a doctorate.

That is EXACTLY why we need Dom Capers in here running the defense...

Someone how knows the full capabilities of the 3-4 not just the basics...

NO MORE ZIMMER..................

I can't believe you guys want CAper's vanilla, zone-blitz scheme in here
 

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Cbz40 said:
Not intending to debate you....but is it because we don't have the LB's or is it the coaching, scheme, or lack of creativity?

no mention of lack of familiarity? shame on you
 

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summerisfunner said:
no mention of lack of familiarity? shame on you


I apologizr for the oversite......it will never happen again......maybe:D
 

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Cbz40 said:
Here's hoping we can correct the personnel problem this offseason. We need to be able present the total package if we are to be successful

we got another year, and more after that to work on getting the right talent

c'mon, you guys were supposed to know that switching to the 3-4 was going to cause some problems
 

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Wolverine said:
Mike Zimmer excuse #73549871032947120970913241907143247098132741




Mike Zimmer excuse #73549871032947120970913241907143247098132742




Mike Zimmer excuse #73549871032947120970913241907143247098132743

they look like facts to me
 

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Wolverine said:
Seein that you think Zimmer is the greatest DC the NFL has ever seen. Nothing will ever make you figure it out.


If we had a HOFer at every position on defense and still got the same no pressure and sacks on QBs you would say how guys like Randy White and Ray Lewis suck while sayin Mike Zimmer is the greatest ever.

in order to convince someone of something, it is helpful to use logic and facts

try it sometime
 

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texastwister said:
Jerry has brought him talent, we have drafted talent and our players we dont bring back seem to do better in other schemes. Omar Stoutmire(Sp) not saying he was an all pro but he played better in a different scheme. With the Giants he was nasty.

Jerry brought Zimmer talent? :lmao:
 

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blindzebra said:
Utter nonsense.

You want Capers?

Houston's defense gave up 348 FD, 5824 yards, 50 TD, had 37 sacks and 7 INT, with a TOP of 31:50.

Pittsburgh 275 FD, 4544 yards, 27 TD, 47 sacks, 15 INT, TOP of 28:44.

Dallas 256 FD, 4814 yards, 35 TDs, 37 sacks, 15 INT, TOP 27:36.

Something of note is Pittsburgh's LBs had 28.5 sacks compared to 16 for Dallas, we actually matched up very well stat-wise with the Steelers.

New scheme, a ton of new players, half our LBs end up on IR and we held our own.

Here's a clue...

THAT'S CALLED COACHING.

I don't even need to read the rest to know that the rest of the Zimmer bashers won't respond with 1, single fact of their own :lmao:
 

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ConcordCowboy said:
Do you believe that Zimmer is a better coach of the 3-4 than Capers?

We are not talking just this year...But over a career.

uh, Zimmer has coached the 3-4 exactly 1 year
 

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Wolverine said:
Billy.

What you are missin is this. Some coaches are greate DCs or OCs but never make good HCs. Capers looks like a great DC but a guy who will never be a good HC.

Let Caper just worry about the D and he will give you a mad violent D that will scare the **** outta any team his D faces. He is just not a good HC.

where are the facts? how can you debate intelligently when you don't counter your opponent's facts, with facts of your own?
 

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mickgreen58 said:
Zimmer is a pretty good coach but Parcells is always talking about how he will always take the opportunity to upgrade every position on the field and I dont understand why fans are not at liberty to take the same stance with Coaches and Coordinators.

this isn't about wanting a better coordinator, it's about them belittling Zimmer for no reason than agenda, and one which has no basis of fact or logic behind it
 

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summerisfunner said:
this isn't about wanting a better coordinator, it's about them belittling Zimmer for no reason than agenda, and one which has no basis of fact or logic behind it

Dangling from my gonads tonight arent we....

- Mike G.
 

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summerisfunner said:
I can't believe you guys want CAper's vanilla, zone-blitz scheme in here


Wow what a great uhhmmmm fact.:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:


Have you ever watched a Cowboy game or seen just 1 game of Capers. I guess not. Zimmer is as vanilla as it gets. Even a preschooler can read his blitzs and know who is coming from where. How long you been a Cowboy fan. hahahaha!


You always talk about wantin facts from us who dont like Zimmer but all I ever see from Zimmer lovers like you is EXCUSES!!!!


I can just see it now. If Zimmer is here 3 years from now. It is only his 4th year in the 3-4 and we are always losin players to FA and he has to teach the new players his scheme.

The excuses will never end.


Oh here is another excuse you can use for Zimmer if he is back. This will be good for one game......

....the dog ate his game plan before the game and it caused him to panic and that is why our Defense did not get any pressure that game.


Here is another one.....

.....Zimmer woke up on the wrong side of the bed and it threw off his game plan.
 

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Wolverine said:
Wow what a great uhhmmmm fact.:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:


Have you ever watched a Cowboy game or seen just 1 game of Capers. I guess not. Zimmer is as vanilla as it gets. Even a preschooler can read his blitzs and know who is coming from where. How long you been a Cowboy fan. hahahaha!


You always talk about wantin facts from us who dont like Zimmer but all I ever see from Zimmer lovers like you is EXCUSES!!!!


I can just see it now. If Zimmer is here 3 years from now. It is only his 4th year in the 3-4 and we are always losin players to FA and he has to teach the new players his scheme.

The excuses will never end.


Oh here is another excuse you can use for Zimmer if he is back. This will be good for one game......

....the dog ate his game plan before the game and it caused him to panic and that is why our Defense did not get any pressure that game.


Here is another one.....

.....Zimmer woke up on the wrong side of the bed and it threw off his game plan.

I just read the 1st line, the rest is probably garbage, but FACT Capers runs a ZONE-blitz scheme

a blitz that is dependent upon zone coverage, but yet you say Zimmer isn't aggressive? :laugh1:
 
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