Twitter: Colin: Gap between Dak and Dalton is not massive

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the truth hurts, but there are tons of factors that make a winning QB...I agree that Dak has some of them, but $40 million?

Bottom line is that this is a mediocre team even with Dak at full health. The goal is to win a super bowl not pay your favorite players. We have too many holes in the defense for this to be a competitive team. We can be good on offense with Dalton and maybe great on defense with Daks 40M spent on that side of the ball.
 

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Why do yall let Cowherd get yall so worked up. He's not worthy to have his content posted here. Maybe he is though considering the threads that are started here.
 

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Why do yall let Cowherd get yall so worked up. He's not worthy to have his content posted here. Maybe he is though considering the threads that are started here.
There are a few who get worked up, most just giving opinion. Look at the team, we have so many highly paid players with minimal contribution. Pay Dak $40 million and we will be need him to carry the team, ....set fire to the team and rebuild
 

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Every statistical category???

Lets look at Red Zone Accuracy and Production.

2018 - Accuracy - 50.75% (ranked 22nd of players connecting over 20 times)
TD's - 12 (ranked 22nd)

2019 - Accuracy - 52.46% (ranked 21st of players connecting over 20 times).
TD's - 16 (ranked 13th)

2020 - Accuracy - 55.00% vrs Dalton 56.82%

Who cares if he makes yards if he cant finish it off.
yet somehow you lead the #1 offense and top 5 in TDs...hmmmm
 

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Partially correct, which isnt bad for your good self.

I agree you cant build the WHOLE defense on FA, but conversely, you can't do it entirely through the draft....if you try to then it's going to take years (which negates the years that Dak is still a top 10 QB).

You continually fail to accept that us signing: Poe, McCoy (with fitness concern), Griffin, Worley, Clinton-Dix was because we didnt have the CAP to spend on better FA's. We sign the Jaylon Smith's and other question marks because they're cheap as we spend too much on offense.

We signed these low cost scrubs because we had so many holes and couldnt afford: Hargrave, Martinez, Ogbah, Floyd, Bradberry any of which would have improved our Defense.
you can't overcome 15 years of bad defensive drafts in one draft. you fill a gap here or there with a FA, or a top FA, but you can't sign a few each year.

the issue with signing those listed above was bad "assessment" of those players, vs. what we already have. we never needed to sign any of them. what we had on the team was already better. had nothing to do with the cap. I was opposed to signing Poe, McCoy from the get go. I never like Dix signing because he was washed up....

instead of all of those contracts, for just about the same money we could have kept Jones, so we don't break the DB field and keep a good CB that would strengthen a defense, for the type of defense that Mike Nolan runs...yeah he didn't get Ints, and 95% of the people on this board wanted him gone...that's bad defensive assessment of available players.. you don't need to sign 5 defensive players to make the defense good. you should need one or two....building a defense through FA doesn't work.

given all the bad FA signings we have had over the past 10+ years on the defensive side alone...would you have any confidence in this FO signin FA if we had 50M on cap space?

no, we didn't sign these low cost scrubs because of money...there was enough money to sign them...we signed them because Jerry and his FO don't know how to build a defense, Draft or FA. so thus, we sit here and argue why Dak doesn't win games all by himself....in the meantime we have a defense that's giving up 36 pts per game, 300,200, 200, 200, 300 yard rushing in one season....that's 1200 yards in 5 games....

and Jaylon Smith got a very large top 5 LB contract at the time he signed.....that was Jerry doing his business partner a favor.....

the only way to fix this defense is to draft well. sign a couple of key FAs.....if we don't solve that problem, 185M cap space can't build a good defense.
 

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Uh....I don't recall Dak ever having a total of 29 yards in a half.

Because Dak is much better than Dalton. He looked good because his defense gave him 10 turnovers in 3 games. How many did this defense give Dak in his 5 starts? A few? That was the difference. Not that Dalton is actually good.

I am pleased that experiment is done with and this whole Dalton is better than Dak narrative can be put to rest. He's a spare.
 

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Dalton looked Romoesque out there on that last interception

Remember how Dak was trashed for the same thing in Seattle? After his OL let a 3 man rush blow through the line and by a miracle got out of the sack and had to scramble. It was 4th down and we needed a TD. So he let it go to the endzone. It was picked.

Except yesterday, Dalton's was on 3rd down. He had another down to work with. Yet he just let go a floater on triple coverage. He has no pocket awareness. How many sacks did he take yesterday that was unncessary. Just get rid of the ball. But all I saw from the Dak hating crowd was excuses for his game ending pick and why he was so bad yesterday.
 

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I watch Colin Cow Turd regularly , generally he’s pretty good . He is super biased against Dak and has an idiotic take on him .
 

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you can't overcome 15 years of bad defensive drafts in one draft. you fill a gap here or there with a FA, or a top FA, but you can't sign a few each year.

the issue with signing those listed above was bad "assessment" of those players, vs. what we already have. we never needed to sign any of them. what we had on the team was already better. had nothing to do with the cap. I was opposed to signing Poe, McCoy from the get go. I never like Dix signing because he was washed up....

instead of all of those contracts, for just about the same money we could have kept Jones, so we don't break the DB field and keep a good CB that would strengthen a defense, for the type of defense that Mike Nolan runs...yeah he didn't get Ints, and 95% of the people on this board wanted him gone...that's bad defensive assessment of available players.. you don't need to sign 5 defensive players to make the defense good. you should need one or two....building a defense through FA doesn't work.

given all the bad FA signings we have had over the past 10+ years on the defensive side alone...would you have any confidence in this FO signin FA if we had 50M on cap space?

no, we didn't sign these low cost scrubs because of money...there was enough money to sign them...we signed them because Jerry and his FO don't know how to build a defense, Draft or FA. so thus, we sit here and argue why Dak doesn't win games all by himself....in the meantime we have a defense that's giving up 36 pts per game, 300,200, 200, 200, 300 yard rushing in one season....that's 1200 yards in 5 games....

and Jaylon Smith got a very large top 5 LB contract at the time he signed.....that was Jerry doing his business partner a favor.....

the only way to fix this defense is to draft well. sign a couple of key FAs.....if we don't solve that problem, 185M cap space can't build a good defense.

Well that's profound, I never thought of that.

Pre-2020 we didnt have the available salary CAP knowing that 2021 (and 2022) we're struggling for CAP Space, even before the expected reduction.

If we sign Dak I doubt we'll have sufficient CAP space for your "couple of key FA's" .....unless we sign Dak long term with signing bonus paid late on in the contract.
 

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Well that's profound, I never thought of that.

Pre-2020 we didnt have the available salary CAP knowing that 2021 (and 2022) we're struggling for CAP Space, even before the expected reduction.

If we sign Dak I doubt we'll have sufficient CAP space for your "couple of key FA's" .....unless we sign Dak long term with signing bonus paid late on in the contract.
given the cap next year. the time it will take to build a good defense (more than one year), there is no push to sign a FA this year, in fact I would be opposed to it...we need to draft, evaluate what we have before going on FA signing players......
 

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given the cap next year. the time it will take to build a good defense (more than one year), there is no push to sign a FA this year, in fact I would be opposed to it...we need to draft, evaluate what we have before going on FA signing players......

So you're conceding next season?
 

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So you're conceding next season?
I am not conceding. its a process. the offense is set. but we need 2 DT, 2 LBs, at least 1 saftey and a CB....it will be tough to find all of those in one draft, specially finding impact players. but if we end up with two impact or good players, and some players we can develop or improve upon what we have, then we should go from bottom 20s to 15-20 range in defense.....and the year after address the other positions of need.....we can't replace 7 starters in one draft...its unheard of.

the offense should be good, specially with Dak, Smith, Jarwin, Collins coming back and Biadasz having a year under his belt.
 

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I am not conceding. its a process. the offense is set. but we need 2 DT, 2 LBs, at least 1 saftey and a CB....it will be tough to find all of those in one draft, specially finding impact players. but if we end up with two impact or good players, and some players we can develop or improve upon what we have, then we should go from bottom 20s to 15-20 range in defense.....and the year after address the other positions of need.....we can't replace 7 starters in one draft...its unheard of.

the offense should be good, specially with Dak, Smith, Jarwin, Collins coming back and Biadasz having a year under his belt.

So from that assessment it's going to take us 3+ years to develop a defense into a decent unit (taking into account additional time and uncertainty on non- 1st Round picks - eg- Diggs, Gallimore and Hill).

A lot of if's in your comments about Collins and Smith coming back and O-Line depth which is going to be a concern as they age (we'd just have to live with).

Back to the elephant in the room - is it wise with these massive holes in the TEAM that we pay a good QB $30m a year for seasons when we arent competing.... I suppose we should ask Houston fans :)
 

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Bottom line is that this is a mediocre team even with Dak at full health. The goal is to win a super bowl not pay your favorite players. We have too many holes in the defense for this to be a competitive team. We can be good on offense with Dalton and maybe great on defense with Daks 40M spent on that side of the ball.
Many that don't understand (or don't care) the significance in Prescott being Dallas' QB often suggest this but I've yet to hear a real answer as to how specifically that will happen. Just posting that they can spend 40 million on defense sounds like a solution, but it's awfully vague and it doesn't solve a single thing.
 
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