For the Garrett haters: Does Pederson get us to the SB in two years?

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Nope it's mediocrity central. How come Campo wasn't given a chance to have a franchise QB, a HOF TE, a HOF DE, a great WR? I could go on and on. He had scrubs and players well past their prime. As Emmitt said he was a diamond surrounded by trash and he was right. The fact that he wasn't near as great as he thought he was at that time should tell you how bad those teams were. Give Campo an offensive line with a great RB and I bet you he'd win more than 5 games. And BTW I hated Campo as coach.

CAMPO was a good example of rising to his level of incompetence.. Or the Peter Principle..However its also a good example of JJS deviltry and why the Cowboys head coaching job is not a job any coach can do..You really make my point with Garret..lolol
 

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CAMPO was a good example of rising to his level of incompetence.. Or the Peter Principle..However its also a good example of JJS deviltry and why the Cowboys head coaching job is a job any coach can do..You really make my point with Garret..lolol
Yea you're right. Any coach can coach the Cowboys to mediocrity. Garrett is nothing special with that. Pardon me if I actually want to win some meaningful games. That's where coaching comes in.
 

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Yea you're right. Any coach can coach the Cowboys to mediocrity. Garrett is nothing special with that. Pardon me if I actually want to win some meaningful games. That's where coaching comes in.

Bro i changed that statement to not..And you are not getting by with your lack of knowledge of the Dallas Cowboys dynamic with the arkie inbred as an owner!
 

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ITS simple, You are a Philly fan, You want garret to be replaced.Why because since Garret had been here, Romo and Garret has crushed your teams..That is the reason. Remember who your teams last loss came from..The Dallas Cowboys!!! TAKE your joke of an effort over >
 

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Nope it's mediocrity central. How come Campo wasn't given a chance to have a franchise QB, a HOF TE, a HOF DE, a great WR? I could go on and on. He had scrubs and players well past their prime. As Emmitt said he was a diamond surrounded by trash and he was right. The fact that he wasn't near as great as he thought he was at that time should tell you how bad those teams were. Give Campo an offensive line with a great RB and I bet you he'd win more than 5 games. And BTW I hated Campo as coach.
why didn't campo influence the team to draft better and improve the team. in 3 years, the team never improved on record and on stats....why did we draft 3 first round OL men with garrett and not Campo. why didn't we draft QBs and TEs. we drafted a QB under garrett couple of drafts, signed those UDFA that were promising. why didn't campo do that? we drafted WR with garrett as OC.

campo didn't do anything, or influence anyone to make the team better. Jerry was ready to draft Manziel. he said he had the card in his hand, yet the team drafted Martin....campo allowed jerry to trade up and draft Quincy Carter.

to excuse a coach for having zero influence on how a team is built is on the coach...to say he had no talent, he was there for 3 years and never improved. campo sucked. end of story. to defend Campo is because you have an agenda....

and the fact is that campo never even came close to another head coaching job. he became a positional coach and never even made it to a coordinator job. I guess that's some how garrett's fault.
 

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DAK didnt go down, Hiz offensive line did because Stephen did not move to replace Leary properly..He could have drafted a guard in 2017 draft..In fact Chaz Green was the mistake made by Stephen that started the oline stupidity..So Stop the Garret bashing on that point..Just like most things Cowboys, garret takes all the crap, and half the time its personnel decisions that he didnt make..

Try focusing on the hypothetical question posed by the OP and then reread my post (slowly).

If Doug Pederson were coaching the Cowboys (hypothetical), he would not have had Nick Foles as a backup in his SB season (as he did when Wentz got hurt), in the event that Dak went down (again, hypothetical), but rather an inexperienced backup (Cooper Rush).

Better work on your reading, comprehension and retention skills, pal.
 

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why didn't campo influence the team to draft better and improve the team. in 3 years, the team never improved on record and on stats....why did we draft 3 first round OL men with garrett and not Campo. why didn't we draft QBs and TEs. we drafted a QB under garrett couple of drafts, signed those UDFA that were promising. why didn't campo do that? we drafted WR with garrett as OC.

campo didn't do anything, or influence anyone to make the team better. Jerry was ready to draft Manziel. he said he had the card in his hand, yet the team drafted Martin....campo allowed jerry to trade up and draft Quincy Carter.

to excuse a coach for having zero influence on how a team is built is on the coach...to say he had no talent, he was there for 3 years and never improved. campo sucked. end of story. to defend Campo is because you have an agenda....

and the fact is that campo never even came close to another head coaching job. he became a positional coach and never even made it to a coordinator job. I guess that's some how garrett's fault.

Jerry ran the show and it was a mess.
 

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Very good..I agree with this..This was the mistake made by the front office going with the hot hand..Very few fans realize that the front office cost us an opportunity to compete for a sb in 2016. Romo was supposed to help bring Dak along..Im not saying that im not happy with Dak, im saying that decision was the wrong one at the time..

I dont see any of those people who supported that decision stepping up to admit it either.

I believe Doug did a decent job with a GM that at least knows football. I DONT believe he would do a better job than Garret in this dynamic.. The hypothetical just doesnt pass the arkie inbred test!

I loved both QBs, supported the decision to stick with Dak (which was clearly a good call), and have zero issue admitting it.

Honestly, I don’t think we’d have gone wrong with either QB as both were capable of playing at a very high level. As I’ve said so many times, it was our defense that primarily let us down in the 2016 playoff game.

Though the bizarre officiating played a role, too.
 

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why didn't campo influence the team to draft better and improve the team. in 3 years, the team never improved on record and on stats....why did we draft 3 first round OL men with garrett and not Campo. why didn't we draft QBs and TEs. we drafted a QB under garrett couple of drafts, signed those UDFA that were promising. why didn't campo do that? we drafted WR with garrett as OC.

campo didn't do anything, or influence anyone to make the team better. Jerry was ready to draft Manziel. he said he had the card in his hand, yet the team drafted Martin....campo allowed jerry to trade up and draft Quincy Carter.

to excuse a coach for having zero influence on how a team is built is on the coach...to say he had no talent, he was there for 3 years and never improved. campo sucked. end of story. to defend Campo is because you have an agenda....

and the fact is that campo never even came close to another head coaching job. he became a positional coach and never even made it to a coordinator job. I guess that's some how garrett's fault.
I doubt Garrett's ever going to get another HC job too. And the team was in salary cap hell when Campo was here. That plus Jerry going crazy. Not much he could have done. What I find funny is how Garrett is so responsible for drafting all these great players yet he only has one playoff win in 8 years. So this team is loaded and he's under-performed. Thank you for making my point. And Campo was trash. Just like Garrett is trash. I don't think Campo was winning any SBs with this team either but I do think he could have gone 8-8 with Romo as QB.
 

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Same here, I am a Romo guy and was all for the change to DP.

TR was the superior qb at the time, no doubt about it.

The thing that most are conveniently forgetting is that TR couldn’t last a series without getting hurt. No sarcasm or hyperbole.

2014 was TR’s last chance to win a SB and fell short of the DB catch/no catch call imo.

I loved both QBs, supported the decision to stick with Dak (which was clearly a good call), and have zero issue admitting it.

Honestly, I don’t think we’d have gone wrong with either QB as both were capable of playing at a very high level. As I’ve said so many times, it was our defense that primarily let us down in the 2016 playoff game.

Though the bizarre officiating played a role, too.
 

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I loved both QBs, supported the decision to stick with Dak (which was clearly a good call), and have zero issue admitting it.

Honestly, I don’t think we’d have gone wrong with either QB as both were capable of playing at a very high level. As I’ve said so many times, it was our defense that primarily let us down in the 2016 playoff game.

Though the bizarre officiating played a role, too.
Looked like an offense that was beating themselves in the first half of that game to me..That and a officiating crew that was on the McCarty express..Lol..No you can not let rogers dictate, but the way you do that is answer, with slow methodic drives running the ball. PLAY keep away..But you have to score tds in the first half. LINEHAN was ignant that game..Butlers call and that tackle of Witten on the goal line, jokes of a call in a playoff game..Lol..Three penalties called against the packers....All game!
 

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Same here, I am a Romo guy and was all for the change to DP.

TR was the superior qb at the time, no doubt about it.

The thing that most are conveniently forgetting is that TR couldn’t last a series without getting hurt. No sarcasm or hyperbole.

2014 was TR’s last chance to win a SB and fell short of the DB catch/no catch call imo.

He lasted long enough against Philly..like three plays and a td to dez..Sorry your braintrust gave up on Tony, not his body..No that decision was the reason we didnt get a chance to compete for a sb. Im not saying that Tony would have lasted much longer, just that the Cowboys made the decision because of his salary, not because he couldnt get it done..The moves with Dez, should have confirmed that for you.....
 

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I doubt Garrett's ever going to get another HC job too. And the team was in salary cap hell when Campo was here. That plus Jerry going crazy. Not much he could have done. What I find funny is how Garrett is so responsible for drafting all these great players yet he only has one playoff win in 8 years. So this team is loaded and he's under-performed. Thank you for making my point. And Campo was trash. Just like Garrett is trash. I don't think Campo was winning any SBs with this team either but I do think he could have gone 8-8 with Romo as QB.

WORST opinion ever. TEAMS would be fighting each other to bring Garret in as head coach..The fans in Dallas and the othrr teams fans masquerading as fans of Dallas have zero idea of how well Garret is respected around the Nfl...

JIM Garret his father is Football royalty as the Nfls scout and predraft regulator if some of the best football prospects in history..He was a head coach at Princeton, and establshed the guidelinez for draft prospect readiness in the Nfl..

I LMAO at the lack of history and knowledge and respect of Garrett in the Nfl. THATS not even talking about his record of success.

YOU goofballs would ditch him not even thinking or remembering how bad it was before Garrett got here..Make no mistake Jerruh doesnt know D about coach hiring and has screwed that up enough times that you should have that idea in stone!!
 

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Try focusing on the hypothetical question posed by the OP and then reread my post (slowly).

If Doug Pederson were coaching the Cowboys (hypothetical), he would not have had Nick Foles as a backup in his SB season (as he did when Wentz got hurt), in the event that Dak went down (again, hypothetical), but rather an inexperienced backup (Cooper Rush).

Better work on your reading, comprehension and retention skills, pal.

NAH i read enough to know he is a Pederson lover..and you are not much better..

My statement covering the arkie inbred owner says it all..Further that position and I agree has been a hole for awhile is on Stephen..He was the one responsible for 2015, and already had taken responsibility for it..In a real organization a coach would be way more involved and capable of communicating the need to a gm of a vet backup qb..

Stephen doesnt listen to anybody but Jerruh on the wrong day!!
 

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TR injured himself sliding. That tells you everything right there.

3 plays per game isn’t conducive to winning. If I remember correctly that was against a team that had nothing to play for.

Bringing up salary numbers is stating the obvious so I don’t understand your point.

What are you sorry for?

He lasted long enough against Philly..like three plays and a td to dez..Sorry your braintrust gave up on Tony, not his body..No that decision was the reason we didnt get a chance to compete for a sb. Im not saying that Tony would have lasted much longer, just that the Cowboys made the decision because of his salary, not because he couldnt get it done..The moves with Dez, should have confirmed that for you.....
 

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I doubt Garrett's ever going to get another HC job too. And the team was in salary cap hell when Campo was here. That plus Jerry going crazy. Not much he could have done. What I find funny is how Garrett is so responsible for drafting all these great players yet he only has one playoff win in 8 years. So this team is loaded and he's under-performed. Thank you for making my point. And Campo was trash. Just like Garrett is trash. I don't think Campo was winning any SBs with this team either but I do think he could have gone 8-8 with Romo as QB.
that's your opinion and the NFL owners may surprise you. the cowboys hate him, yeah becaue he was given it to him on a silver platter...... he was offered the HC position by Ozzie Newsome of the Ravens. so I assume Ozzie is stupid too?
 

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and jerry still runs the show and its still a mess


Someone else is obviously making much smarter decisions. Stephen, McClay? not sure who? but you can bet it isn't Jerry. The past 3 years, no trading around in the draft, no huge FA signings, trying to get their cap in order, todays decision making certainly isn't how Jerry operated in the past. There was never a long term plan, just a win now mentality that resulted in never actually winning anything.
 
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