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The Cowboys need to sign a veteran QB pronto, not to start, but just to help Dak out during the week and in-game adjustments.

Think about what Romo had early on in his career: Sean Payton, Bill Parcells, David Lee, Wade Wilson, Vinny Testaverde, Drew Bledsoe, etc.

Look what Dak has: Kellen Moore, Jason Garrett, Scott Linehan

It's like they set up Dak to fail. They get rid of the one coach with experience as a QB coach and accomplishment as a QB, and leave the OC who ran the clown car into the ditch last year behind the wheel.

Those personnel calls flew in the face of any common sense. If Garrett said "these are my guys", it's totally ok to let him have them as the HC. But he then needs to be held responsible for their failure.

Out. Out. Out.
 

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You assume that people think Prescott is that much better of a option. You assume wrong. People wouldn’t blame a hair on that coaching staffs head for benching him tomorrow.

I would. They stunk it up big time in preseason.

I'm much more ready to dump Garrett and Linehan than Dak.
 

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if we started one of them this Sunday, would they throw for more then 1TD and 250 yards? In all honesty I think both of them do both of them. Before anyone says “Don’t you think coaches would know what they have” “and put them in if they were better” the answer is no! they wouldn’t I don’t trust this coaching staff or FO anymore.
I watched them both pretty closely in preseason. I didn't think either of them were anywhere close to Dak despite his issues throwing. White clearly had arm talent but was pretty lost out there. No way either get in as long as we are realistically in the division race.

If we are out and White has improved we might see him on the field in order to assess whether we need to draft a QB
 

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Sure, 250 yards 1 TD to go with 3 picks, two fumbles and 6 sacks.
 

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if we started one of them this Sunday, would they throw for more then 1TD and 250 yards? In all honesty I think both of them do both of them. Before anyone says “Don’t you think coaches would know what they have” “and put them in if they were better” the answer is no! they wouldn’t I don’t trust this coaching staff or FO anymore.

You're making the assumption that Prescott is the only problem with the O. Incorrect assumption and your thoughts are based only on emotion. Could it be that your emotions change a bit with the insertion of White/Rush? My guess is you're not gonna find out Sunday. Some Sunday at some point? Who knows. You think Prescott looks bad? My feeling is both will look as bad or worse. Prescott gives us the better chance to win a few games this year. How few is few is the question
 

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if we started one of them this Sunday, would they throw for more then 1TD and 250 yards? In all honesty I think both of them do both of them. Before anyone says “Don’t you think coaches would know what they have” “and put them in if they were better” the answer is no! they wouldn’t I don’t trust this coaching staff or FO anymore.

I highly doubt it. They made Dak look like Dan Marino this past preseason.
 

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I would. They stunk it up big time in preseason.

I'm much more ready to dump Garrett and Linehan than Dak.
You're making the assumption that Prescott is the only problem with the O. Incorrect assumption and your thoughts are based only on emotion. Could it be that your emotions change a bit with the insertion of White/Rush? My guess is you're not gonna find out Sunday. Some Sunday at some point? Who knows. You think Prescott looks bad? My feeling is both will look as bad or worse. Prescott gives us the better chance to win a few games this year. How few is few is the question
Emotion? lol nah they are based of what we all that know football already know. Dak can’t pass, better sooner then later that we bench this dood
 

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The eye test says they are better then Dak. My only response is besides the hunch you have about both of them. hOw do we know???
Did you watch Mike White in preseason? He looked bad against a bunch of guys that are mostly 3rd stringers and guys now out of the NFL. If he looks better to you than Dak it’s time for an eye exam.

Yes Dak has played poorly this year. But Mike White or Cooper Rush would make Dak look like Aaron Rodgers. Seriously.
 

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Did you watch Mike White in preseason? He looked bad against a bunch of guys that are mostly 3rd stringers and guys now out of the NFL. If he looks better to you than Dak it’s time for an eye exam.

Yes Dak has played poorly this year. But Mike White or Cooper Rush would make Dak look like Aaron Rodgers. Seriously.

Well we aren't winning with how Dak is playing (he does deserve a little more time to correct himself) but it he can't why not give Rush or White a chance. I bet nobody ever thought Goff was gonna be any good after his horrible rookie season. You never know what you have until you get a chance to see them play so if Dak's performances don't get any better then i say give either one of them a shot, it can't hurt
 

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You’re downplaying 250 yards because Dak can’t get that consistently like real true NFL QBs can. Production production production this team has non all across the offensive board except oline and HB
Russell Wilson has only broken 250yds passing once is his last 13 games(260yds last year) and not once in his last 9 games, he had less than 200yds passing in 6 of those games. Dak ain't Wilson, but even good QBs need help from the rest of their team.
 

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Well we aren't winning with how Dak is playing (he does deserve a little more time to correct himself) but it he can't why not give Rush or White a chance. I bet nobody ever thought Goff was gonna be any good after his horrible rookie season. You never know what you have until you get a chance to see them play so if Dak's performances don't get any better then i say give either one of them a shot, it can't hurt
Goff would have continued to look horrible if Fisher would have stayed. He was lucky he had a coach that identified his weaknesses, came up with a plan, put in a regimen for his off season development, knows how to teach, drilled him incessantly in OTAs, put him in a system that minimized his weakness and played to his strengths and upgraded every position. That team today looks nothing like the team he had around him his rookie season. Dak doesn't have Goff's physical tools, but Dak would be a much better QB if he had coaches and a FO that was as competent as the Rams.
 

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Russell Wilson has only broken 250yds passing once is his last 13 games(260yds last year) and not once in his last 9 games, he had less than 200yds passing in 6 of those games. Dak ain't Wilson, but even good QBs need help from the rest of their team.
If Dakota could be half Of what Russell Wilson is..
 

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Neither one of them is even a decent backup QB at this point in their careers (or probably ever). As much as I'm ready to move on from Dak, I don't even care if Rush or White ever get in a game.
 

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if we started one of them this Sunday, would they throw for more then 1TD and 250 yards? In all honesty I think both of them do both of them. Before anyone says “Don’t you think coaches would know what they have” “and put them in if they were better” the answer is no! they wouldn’t I don’t trust this coaching staff or FO anymore.
Rush has no arm, and White isn't ready.

Either would suck right now.
 

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I disagree I think they can stay healthy. Nothing tells me they will just break when they get sacked 1 time. Dak is just as susceptible to injury as anyone in the field.
Different players have different propensities to get injured. Dak has never shown any propensity toward injury that I'm aware of, so I'd have to conclude your last statement is erroneous.
 

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Russell Wilson has only broken 250yds passing once is his last 13 games(260yds last year) and not once in his last 9 games, he had less than 200yds passing in 6 of those games. Dak ain't Wilson, but even good QBs need help from the rest of their team.

Your a little off on these stats
 

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Did you watch Mike White in preseason? He looked bad against a bunch of guys that are mostly 3rd stringers and guys now out of the NFL. If he looks better to you than Dak it’s time for an eye exam.

Yes Dak has played poorly this year. But Mike White or Cooper Rush would make Dak look like Aaron Rodgers. Seriously.
Seriously. Dak may not be a quality starter, but Rush is definitely not, and White has a long way to go and didn't look all that hot.

I honestly can't figure out why Rush is still on the roster.
 

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Goff would have continued to look horrible if Fisher would have stayed. He was lucky he had a coach that identified his weaknesses, came up with a plan, put in a regimen for his off season development, knows how to teach, drilled him incessantly in OTAs, put him in a system that minimized his weakness and played to his strengths and upgraded every position. That team today looks nothing like the team he had around him his rookie season. Dak doesn't have Goff's physical tools, but Dak would be a much better QB if he had coaches and a FO that was as competent as the Rams.
This. Agree 100% on how important it is for a young QB to get quality coaching. Dak hasn’t played well this year but that’s not all on him. And Goff is a great example of a young QB who got better with a HC that understood how to put him in positions to be his best. Garrett and Linehan seem to put Dak in positions to run their offense. Not running the offense in ways that cater to Dak’s strengths.

Dak Prescott is still just 25 years old. Most NFL QBs as young as Dak have the luxury of at least a few games to a year to learn how to play the position. His skill set is not, nor will it ever be Pat Mahomes arm strength or Jared Goff’s touch. But Dak has enough talent to play a lot better than he has the last 10-12 games.

Dak’s never been the same since the Atl game last year and he’s crying out for a coaching intervention that is clearly not going to come from the robot clapper who tells everybody to fight harder. Or the OC whose passing route trees are the easiest to cover in the league. Or the complete front office idiots named Jones who gave their 25 yo developing young QB the worst set of WRs and TEs in the league.

Dak deserves a lot of the criticism. He has certainly played poorly. But I’m amazed at how short the leash is on a guy that has shown flashes of brilliance. His playoff game performance against GB in 2016 was top shelf. Too many fans around here act like franchise QBs grow on trees or are available in droves in every draft.

Dak may not be the answer. But we don’t know that yet. We do however know that Mike White and Cooper Rush are not better and would be significantly worse.
 
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