Where does Garrett land?

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It amazes me the fans who bash Lewis for his tenure in Cincinnati.

All he did was bring the Bengals back from a dormant franchise bottom dweller to a consistent contender taking them to as many playoff appearances than the franchise had previously in their entire existence.

Now look how they’ve fallen again since he left with the #1 pick in the draft at the bottom of the league again.
Yes.

Those of you who accept and appreciate mediocrity are big fans of guys like Lewis and Garrett.

Others wish for better.
 

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Jason will steal Big Mc's playbook while he's making copies for the team and reinvent himself.
 

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Nobody cares how many regular season wins you have. It's all about post season wins. Two wildcard wins in 10yrs isn't good.

Every fan in here would take a 9-7 regular season that culminated in a SB win.

A lot of losing teams care about regular season wins. Coincidentally, a lot of losing teams have job openings. This is a thread about landing spots, remember.
 

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Everything you listed is regular season accomplishments, not postseason accomplishments.

That is ultimately why Garrett was fired and why it might take awhile for him to get another HC opportunity.

Marvin Lewis has the same problem, former COTY, multiple division titles, but no playoff success.

Yep.
 

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I honestly think he belongs in college. His process works for a 3-4 year period. He could be Princeton's HC
 

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Never once has been to the playoffs 2 years in a row. And quit being arbitrary in your 3 of the last 6. In his 10 years here, he won 3 division titles. that is 3 in 10 years. That COTY award you want to mention? Lost to a very weak GB team at home in the playoffs and was embarrassed to start the game and not prepared in the least. The same GB team who was ran off the field by Atlanta the next week.

Let's see what else...0 of 4 in win or go home games. 3 straight in 2011-2013. Another one this year against Philly. He had his playcalling duties stripped in 2013 because he was so bad.

2 playoff wins in 10 seasons here. That is anything but good. Doug Pederson in his 2nd season as HC after taking over a depleted team Chip Kelly left, he leads his team to a Super Bowl with a backup QB. Jason's process led us to a decade of nothing.

The Jaguars with Bortles accomplished more in 2017 than Garrett did his whole tenure.

I can go on and on about how bad he was but it's tiring and exhausting. But hey, keep latching onto meaningless stats like COTY and regular season wins and ignoring stuff that actually separates good coaches from the rest. And I thought he was going to be some hot item coach when he left here? Not one team wanted him.

It’s not arbitrary. There was a period where the roster was rebuilt. After that was done, he won a lot of games and qualified for the postseason fairly regularly.
 

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Yes.

Those of you who accept and appreciate mediocrity are big fans of guys like Lewis and Garrett.

Others wish for better.
I’m not sure I’d define as big fans. It’s just presents another viewpoint or perspective.

Are the Bengals in a better place now or before Lewis was there?

And compared to the previous tenures before Garrett were we in a better place?

The best measure of coaching or Mgmt is are you in a better place than when you took over.
 
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I’m not sure I’d define as big fans. It’s just presents another viewpoint or perspective.

Are the Bengals in a better place now or before Lewis was there?

And compared to the previous tenures before Garrett were we in a better place?

The best measure of coaching or Mgmt is are you in a better place than when you took over.
Ok. So Garrett's first 3 full years he was 8-8 each year. He finished 8-8.

Are the Cowboys in a better place? By your own definition, no.

It's the very definition of mediocre. That may be fine with you and a few others.But it's not good enough for me a d many others
 

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Ok. So Garrett's first 3 full years he was 8-8 each year. He finished 8-8.

Are the Cowboys in a better place? By your own definition, no.

It's the very definition of mediocre. That may be fine with you and a few others.But it's not good enough for me a d many others

He finished 24-24 with a roster that was not a .500 roster. That’s not underperforming.
 

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I’m not sure I’d define as big fans. It’s just presents another viewpoint or perspective.

Are the Bengals in a better place now or before Lewis was there?

And compared to the previous tenures before Garrett were we in a better place?

The best measure of coaching or Mgmt is are you in a better place than when you took over.

If I lived in a cardboard box for 10 years and finally upgraded to a one bedroom apartment above a laundry mat in the middle of a slum, am I now in a better place? Absolutely. Am I content? Absolutely not.
 

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To be fair, he's a perfect FCS OR DII candidate, Maybe an Ivy League D1 to start over.

He'd be able to relate to the Academically inspired, recruit the ignored athletes because he has NFL connections, and won't ever embarrass the school.

The kids would probably be in awe of his resume until he actually tried to coach, but it doesn't matter as much at that level.

Perfect- maybe the only- example of a man that SHOULD have quit his job I can think of right now.

He wasn't put in a moral quandary nor mistreated as an employee, or offered a better opportunity somewhere else.

Quitting might have saved his reputation. Now he's a national joke.
 
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