News: Tank asked for 20 million, Cowboys matched that now Tank asking for 22.5M

Irvin88_4life · Mar 30, 2019

Bohuntr97 said:
I guess it's pretty much spelled out. Per Nfl.com.

"Each team can only use one tag each year -- they can't designate both a franchise and transition player. A rescinded tender counts as a tag, meaning a team can't designate one player, rescind it, and use a new tag on another player in the same year. A player can be tagged up to three times by his team, with a jump in pay each occurrence."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...se-tag-primer-teams-can-start-tagging-players

Thats not what i asked and the article didn't answer the question.

Rockport · Mar 30, 2019

DallasMike said:
And all I said was I hate guys who don't read the entire post. Because I never implied that my situation is the standard. In fact I pointed out everybody is different as is every injury. I typed from my experience(s). Someone asked what the typical recovery time is on a labral repair. Again, I can't speak for anybody else, so I gave mine.

You remind me of my older brother. His way or the highway.

GimmeTheBall! · Mar 30, 2019

dagreat1_87 said:
the d-law threads about the same thing just keep on rolling huh?

Like your life and schedule are so limited.

DallasMike · Mar 30, 2019

Rockport said:
You remind me of my older brother. His way or the highway.

Sorry you see it that way. But in this case it is true because my words are in writing. It's all good. You are a Cowboy brother and I respect your opinion like anybody else's. Have a good night as I am packing it in.

Bohuntr97 · Mar 30, 2019

Irvin88_4life said:
Thats not what i asked and the article didn't answer the question.

Huh? You asked when did the rules change. They never did. Tank can be franchised a third time. I provided you with the info.

Irvin88_4life · Mar 30, 2019

Bohuntr97 said:
Huh? You asked when did the rules change. They never did. Tank can be franchised a third time. I provided you with the info.

That was the question, i read the article and i was wrong but didn't see when it went to 3 times. What you just stated i guess it never was 2 times. Thanks for the info and answering the question.

Doc50 · Mar 30, 2019

Crazed Liotta Eyes said:
Funny how the timeframe for the recovery changes by the poster. Can @Doc50 or another Doctor chime in? I absolutely destroyed my shoulder last August. Broke multiple bones and severed the ligaments but at this point, I could still punch an eagles fan or play football if I wasn't an aging guy. Just don't know about the labrum repair.

Every case is different.
If the MRI and arthrogram show minor cartilage damage, then arthroscopy can be fairly simple, and recovery can be predictable, similar to a common knee scope to remove irregular cartilage.

Xavier187 · Mar 30, 2019

I think i would do the following its either A. Or B.

A. Offer Tank 21m per for 7yrs 147m dollar deal with 84m guaranteed. That way in 4 yrs if he dips qe can cut him. Also would put in a i jury clause that if he misses so many games after year 3 and 4 his deal could be nullified.

Or
B. Trade DeMarcus Lawerance, Anthony Brown, 2019 late 4th and 2020 3rd rounder to the Colts for Picks 26, 34 and 59.

Go in the draft with 26,34,58,59 and 90 as your top 5 picks.

Offer up Tyron Crawford and our 6th and 7th to the Buccaneers for Gerald McCoy. Redo McCoys Contract for 3yrs 8m per with incentives.
Draft
26. Jachai Polite, DE
34. Taylor Rapp S
58. David Long CB
59. Jaylon Ferguson DE (Pro day)
90. Jace Sternberger, TE (Dallas Private work out and Dallas day visit
4th Gearld Willis DT (Dallas day visit)
5th rounder Mecole Hardman WR (Dallas Day)

Js guys lets build for future.
We have to resign Dak Zeke Cooper and Jones. We need to get young fresh bodies in there to save some money

Verdict · Mar 30, 2019

Roadtrip635 said:
Can't believe no one else is talking about these Tank negotiations. You would think there would be more threads about this.

At least. We have an insatiable appetite and the only thing that can satisfy it is more Tank threads

Bohuntr97 · Mar 30, 2019

Irvin88_4life said:
That was the question, i read the article and i was wrong but didn't see when it went to 3 times. What you just stated i guess it never was 2 times. Thanks for the info and answering the question.

No problem Irvin, I was curious several months ago and had to look it up. Kinda the La'Veon Bell deal who had already gotten a tag but didn't sign the second and sat out the year without pay despite an offer. Steeler's could have put a 3rd tag on him this year, it seems they just moved on (after a holdout) and traded instead. DLaw might be trying the same trick, using the shoulder as leverage.

AbeBeta · Mar 30, 2019

Irvin88_4life said:
You can't franchise tag a guy 3 times in a row

Yes you can. It is extremely expensive to do so but you can.

Have you heard of Google?

You can avoid incorrect posts by using this simple tool.

Beast_from_East · Mar 31, 2019

Nightman said:
No... that means they are willing to pay that for 1 year just to keep him

But if the player wants guaranteed money in the future they have to give up some APY.... it is a trade off

You don't get top dollar and multi year guarantees unless you are the best..... and he ain't the best

DLaw 18th in sacks
DLaw 11th in TFLs
DLaw 13th in QB hits
DLaw 48th in FF

For the type of money DLaw is asking for, I would expect him to have a couple of DPOY awards or some first team all pros.

Beast_from_East · Mar 31, 2019

Crazed Liotta Eyes said:
Funny how the timeframe for the recovery changes by the poster. Can @Doc50 or another Doctor chime in? I absolutely destroyed my shoulder last August. Broke multiple bones and severed the ligaments but at this point, I could still punch an eagles fan or play football if I wasn't an aging guy. Just don't know about the labrum repair.

Rapoport said on NFL Network that its about a 4 month recovery.

I am assuming he is basing this off what it has taken other NFL players to recover from a labrum surgery.

Maybe DLaw is a quick healer, but I would not count on it. So if we go 4 month recovery, that means he needs to have the surgery by May 1st to be ready to go by September 1. So that means roughly by the time the draft gets here in late April, he either needs to be signed or traded by then.

Beast_from_East · Mar 31, 2019

Irvin88_4life said:
You can't franchise tag a guy 3 times in a row

That's not true, you can.

If a player is tagged three straight years however their salary is 144% of their previous years salary which would be the value of the second tag, which is 120% of their previous salary, which would be the value of the first tag, the average of the top 5 at their position.

As you can see, the third tag would be cost prohibited, in the range of $30 to $40 million for most positions.

Beast_from_East · Mar 31, 2019

Rockport said:
DLaw with torn labrum.

So you are saying that Dlaw's numbers were down because of the torn labrum, but he is asking to be paid before he fixes the labrum :huh:

This begs the question, why should I pay Mack money for a player that, in their current physical state, cannot preform to that level by your own admission?

That's like you selling me a new house, but the toilets dont flush because of bad plumbing. You tell me that doesn't matter, go ahead and pay the full list price and then you will fix the pipes. You would actually do a business deal like this?

Rockport · Mar 31, 2019

Beast_from_East said:
So you are saying that Dlaw's numbers were down because of the torn labrum, but he is asking to be paid before he fixes the labrum

This begs the question, why should I pay Mack money for a player that, in their current physical state, cannot preform to that level by your own admission?

That's like you selling me a new house, but the toilets dont flush because of bad plumbing. You tell me that doesn't matter, go ahead and pay the full list price and then you will fix the pipes. You would actually do a business deal like this?

Yes his numbers were down because of his injury. Not sure where you got the rest of your crap from. It wasn’t from me.

Nightman · Mar 31, 2019

Beast_from_East said:
So you are saying that Dlaw's numbers were down because of the torn labrum, but he is asking to be paid before he fixes the labrum

This begs the question, why should I pay Mack money for a player that, in their current physical state, cannot preform to that level by your own admission?

That's like you selling me a new house, but the toilets dont flush because of bad plumbing. You tell me that doesn't matter, go ahead and pay the full list price and then you will fix the pipes. You would actually do a business deal like this?

He has had the injury since 2017 and his Sacks fell from 14 to 10.5..... what are they going to fall to Year 3 of the injury?

Aren't stats supposed to go up when you claim to be the BEST at your position and in your prime age range?

If best case scenario is we get two good, not even great seasons out of DLaw for 84m guaranteed then every nickel SJones has squeezed the last 5 years has been in vain

Crazed Liotta Eyes · Mar 31, 2019

Beast_from_East said:
Rapoport said on NFL Network that its about a 4 month recovery.

I am assuming he is basing this off what it has taken other NFL players to recover from a labrum surgery.

Maybe DLaw is a quick healer, but I would not count on it. So if we go 4 month recovery, that means he needs to have the surgery by May 1st to be ready to go by September 1. So that means roughly by the time the draft gets here in late April, he either needs to be signed or traded by then.

Thanks for the info.

cowboyjoe · Mar 31, 2019

here is the article
DeMarcus Lawrence Increases Asking Price

March 27th, 2019 at 1:23pm CST by Zach Links

The Cowboys recently stepped up their offer to defensive end DeMarcus Lawrence to meet his $20MM asking price. But, as Marlo Stanfield once famously said in “The Wire,” the price of the brick is going up.

In the last few weeks, Lawrence has gone from asking for $20MM/year to $22.5MM per annum, according to Calvin Watkins of The Athletic. The Cowboys’ current offer would make Lawrence the league’s highest-paid 4-3 defensive end, but the pass rusher is looking to match the $22.5MM AAV on Aaron Donald‘s deal and inch towards the $23.5MM per year earned by Khalil Mack.
Lawrence, 27 in April, is already the highest-paid 4-3 defensive end in the NFL thanks to his $20.5MM franchise tag. However, he has indicated that he won’t report to the club until he gets a new deal.

Beast_from_East · Mar 31, 2019

Rockport said:
Yes his numbers were down because of his injury. Not sure where you got the rest of your crap from. It wasn’t from me.

I will keep it real simple for you then, why should I pay for damaged goods?

Injury affects performance and he is not getting injury fixed till he gets paid.

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