Accountability 101 - RW Blames Romo for Everything... Vid added Post #73

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Wrangler87;3057416 said:
Or the lazy routes. He seems to round his routes off. Watch the difference between him and Austin. It's like night and day. Even the slower footed Witten runs a crfisp cut on his routes. Remember the slant he ran on Sunday where instead of slanting, he did a half curl, let the DB get position on him, and it almost resulted in an interception. Fact is, I don't dislike the guy, but his routes are terrible.

Big, powerful Roy Williams got the ball thrown to him on the slant when he was covered and got his *** handed to him by the CB and nearly caused an INT.

The Roy sheep are in denial about his level of play. This lack of chemistry business with Romo is ridiculous - Roy obviously is not running routes properly and he is getting worse instead of better based on the numbers he has put up as of late. Yet he insists Romo isn't throwing the ball correctly to the media.
 

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WoodysGirl;3057519 said:
or be a shill, enabler, sheep, and whatever else they claim.

If Roy is going in and Romo's going out, then how can anyone with any degree of certainty claim they know whose fault it is? Because that's happened on MORE than one occasion.

On the flip side, there have been balls that have hit in the palm of his hands, and those drops are on him.

At this point, they just need to get it together. And my only gripe now is he needs to force the interviewers to focus on another topic. Eight weeks into the football season after he and Romo haven't connected, this shouldn't even be a story anymore.

He needs to shorten his interview period and limit what Rasheed said one time, "I play hard. The other team plays hard. Romo plays hard."
Bold --> Exactly.
 

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It's amazing how similar the controversy over this Roy Williams is with the controversy over the previous Roy Williams.

Supporters of Roy were adamant that it was everyone else's fault--players, media, coaches, scheme-and the player himself took no responsibility whatsoever for his faults.

It's almost the EXACT same discussion

yes it is and the same people seem to be supporting RW again.

The other similarity is the dramatic drop in level of play took place after getting a big, fact contract extension with lots of guaranteed money. Jerry just will never learn - you don't give lazy, self-indulgent, arrogant players big raises - they will immediately tank it and then you are stuck with the bill.
 

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Owens would always talk about missed opportunities and then there was the drama about making up plays with Witten which was never justified. But Atleast Owens played Ball and had some nice games.

Roy Williams runs sloppy routes, has questionable hands and is constantly and I mean constantly trying to convince people He's Good. Not to mention He throws Romo under the bus about HIs lack of productiion.



Owens would speak out when things where going South...Roy Talks and stirs the pot when we're playing our best. Talk about Being a mental midget. DUMB ***!!:banghead:
 

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WoodysGirl;3057519 said:
If Roy is going in and Romo's going out, then how can anyone with any degree of certainty claim they know whose fault it is? Because that's happened on MORE than one occasion.

we know its on RW because it is not happening with other receivers
simple really, if we want to look with unbiased eyes
 

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Eskimo, I agree with you to some degree, but isn't there a middle ground that yes, Jerry vastly overpaid for a possession receiver, but also that Roy is a lot better player than we've seen so far?

I think the argument is more with Jerry for coveting a player and overpaying (though Newy Scruggs is adamant that Garrett pushed hard for the trade last year to free up TO) than with Roy.
 

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TwoDeep3;3057379 said:
I'm sorry but the person who doesn't get it is you. he is not the only one responsible for his poor performance.

How about tossing a pass that is catchable?

Hmm, so you are saying that Romo throws all the "catchable" balls to the other receivers, and all the "uncatchable" ones to Roy?
 

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Eskimo, I agree with you to some degree, but isn't there a middle ground that yes, Jerry vastly overpaid for a possession receiver, but also that Roy is a lot better player than we've seen so far?

I think the argument is more with Jerry for coveting a player and overpaying (though Newy Scruggs is adamant that Garrett pushed hard for the trade last year to free up TO) than with Roy.

My thing is i've never had a problem with what we gave up for him because the intent of the trade was to get us over the top and to the Superbowl.

A #2 WR was what everyone was clamoring about.

So did we overpay? Yes. Of course. But Jerry did it because he thought it would be the missing piece to us getting to the Superbowl.

Also im sure he thought our 1st rounder would've been even higher than it was too.

Still though I like that Jerry made the gamble and its not like we ended up with a terrible player.

The price we payed is over and done with as far as im concerned and will not have any kind of longterm negativity on this franchise.
 

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visionary;3057538 said:
we know its on RW because it is not happening with other receivers
simple really, if we want to look with unbiased eyes
Pfft, your eyes are no more unbiased than anyone else's on this board. Folks believe what they believe and they're gonna go down with the ship believing it. It's not a brand new concept. Lol

It doesn't have to happen with other receivers. However, it's happened multiple times with Roy and Romo throughout this season...

In the Seattle game, Roy went in. Romo went out. Ball hit Roy in the hands and he dropped it. For whatever reason it hasn't happened. They don't need to be BFFs, but they need to get it together.
 

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Chocolate Lab;3057544 said:
Eskimo, I agree with you to some degree, but isn't there a middle ground that yes, Jerry vastly overpaid for a possession receiver, but also that Roy is a lot better player than we've seen so far?

I think the argument is more with Jerry for coveting a player and overpaying (though Newy Scruggs is adamant that Garrett pushed hard for the trade last year to free up TO) than with Roy.
Bold=Absolutely not! You either believe Roy's a bum. There's no hope and the team should trade/cut/bench him.

No way you should want Romo and Roy to get on the same page because it'll only help the Cowboys in the end. That makes you a shill, sheep, or enabler.
 

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WoodysGirl;3057565 said:
Bold=Absolutely not! You either believe Roy's a bum. There's no hope and the team should trade/cut/bench him.

No way you should want Romo and Roy to get on the same page because it'll only help the Cowboys in the end. That makes you a shill, sheep, or enabler.

There is never a middle ground but usually there is always a middle ground :D .
 

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Chocolate Lab;3057544 said:
Eskimo, I agree with you to some degree, but isn't there a middle ground that yes, Jerry vastly overpaid for a possession receiver, but also that Roy is a lot better player than we've seen so far?

I think the argument is more with Jerry for coveting a player and overpaying (though Newy Scruggs is adamant that Garrett pushed hard for the trade last year to free up TO) than with Roy.

I agree that Jerry vastly overpaid.

I agree that Jerry made a mistake by widely letting it known that he coveted Roy Williams.

I agree that Roy used to be a better player than he has been with us.

I am not sure that he is going to get much better. He has had a whole year to get acclimated to the Cowboys offense and Romo and his last two games are arguably two of the worst of his career.

I also feel that Roy has been suggesting in the media some resentment towards Miles Austin, Tony Romo and Jason Garrett. I would be happy to suspend judgment on him if he kept his fricking yap shut about his level of discontent with the current situation. Just go out there and do your job as good as you can and work hard to be the best WR you can be and he will be okay by me. I didn't complain about RW at all this year until he started showing resentment about Miles so this is a situation that he has created and brought upon himself, although I'm sure he has some sort of excuse.

If there were an All-Pro team of excuses both Roy Williamses would be on it.:laugh1:
 

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Eskimo;3057584 said:
I agree that Jerry vastly overpaid.


I also feel that Roy has been suggesting in the media some resentment towards Miles Austin, Tony Romo and Jason Garrett. I would be happy to suspend judgment on him if he kept his fricking yap shut about his level of discontent with the current situation. Just go out there and do your job as good as you can and work hard to be the best WR you can be and he will be okay by me. I didn't complain about RW at all this year until he started showing resentment about Miles so this is a situation that he has created and brought upon himself, although I'm sure he has some sort of excuse.


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This has the POTENTIAL of blowing up the season: this guy is al butt hurt about playing like garbage and can't or won't take responsiblity. AS everyone keep saying: shutup Roy "Whiner" (RW) and just block, catch 3-5 balls per game plus a TD and all will be fine.....he needs to get the bunker mentality and NOT WATCH TV, NOT READ THE PAPERS AND FOR GOD SAKE DON'T GET ON THE INTERNET: BUNKER DOWN, PLAY HARD AND LET THE CHIPS FALL WHERE THEY MAy Roy: he's melting down week by week IMO. He desperately needs a big game this week...........I'd ALMOST take a close loss to these effers if we could get him 8 catches and 140 yds with 2 tds. If we losE 31-28, which is very possible at least we can get him going and shut him uP: WOULD MAKE SENSE IF WE DIDN'T GO DOWN THAT LONESOME ROAD BEFORE!!!!!!!!!!!

SHUT UP ROY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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My thing is i've never had a problem with what we gave up for him because the intent of the trade was to get us over the top and to the Superbowl.

A #2 WR was what everyone was clamoring about.

So did we overpay? Yes. Of course. But Jerry did it because he thought it would be the missing piece to us getting to the Superbowl.

Also im sure he thought our 1st rounder would've been even higher than it was too.

Still though I like that Jerry made the gamble and its not like we ended up with a terrible player.

The price we payed is over and done with as far as im concerned and will not have any kind of longterm negativity on this franchise.


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WoodysGirl;3057559 said:
Pfft, your eyes are no more unbiased than anyone else's on this board. Folks believe what they believe and they're gonna go down with the ship believing it. It's not a brand new concept. Lol

It doesn't have to happen with other receivers. However, it's happened multiple times with Roy and Romo throughout this season...

In the Seattle game, Roy went in. Romo went out. Ball hit Roy in the hands and he dropped it. For whatever reason it hasn't happened. They don't need to be BFFs, but they need to get it together.

OK, if i am biased (I admit to being biased against lazy prima donnas with inflated egos), what do you think is the reason for them "not being on the same page"?

it cant be lack of working together because RW has been here close to a year and we are told they have been "working very hard in that time"

it cant be romo because he is not having the same issues with other receivers

so what is it? instead of poking holes in my theory can you tell me what you think is the reason? or is it just nebulous stuff like "they are not on the same page" "they have to work things out" "they just need more time" just to distract from the real issue and to avoid pointing the finger where it should be pointed.
 

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visionary;3057627 said:
OK, if i am biased (I admit to being biased against lazy prima donnas with inflated egos), what do you think is the reason for them "not being on the same page"?

it cant be lack of working together because RW has been here close to a year and we are told they have been "working very hard in that time"

it cant be romo because he is not having the same issues with other receivers

so what is it? instead of poking holes in my theory can you tell me what you think is the reason? or is it just nebulous stuff like "they are not on the same page" "they have to work things out" "they just need more time" just to distract from the real issue and to avoid pointing the finger where it should be pointed.
I don't know...and I've never claimed to know. But I don't think it's as simple as saying "Roy sucks" either. It's one of the most mind-boggling things I've seen this year.

However, I'm not interested in pointing the finger and laying blame. There's enough people doing that. Suggesting he should be cut, traded, etc does NOTHING to help the team this year and it's just wasted energy as far as I'm concerned.

I want them to get it together, because it can only help the 'boys if they do. And to me, that's all that matters.
 

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WoodysGirl;3057636 said:
I don't know...and I've never claimed to know. But I don't think it's as simple as saying "Roy sucks" either. It's one of the most mind-boggling things I've seen this year.

However, I'm not interested in pointing the finger and laying blame. There's enough people doing that. Suggesting he should be cut, traded, etc does NOTHING to help the team this year and it's just wasted energy as far as I'm concerned.

I want them to get it together, because it can only help the 'boys if they do. And to me, that's all that matters.

cant disagree with that
 
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