BTB: Cowboys 2013 Draft Board Leaked... All Seven Rounds (Link Post #21) *Merge*

[speedkilz88]

I agree with everything you said except it was Jimmy's fault for Lacewell. At least he shares responsibility. Jimmy Johnson was still with the Cowboys in 1992 when Lacewell was hired. He hired him because he had fresh eyes on the college talent and Jimmy had been out of college for 4 years already.

 

[AsthmaField]

ROFL. This is awesome.

Jerry made this decision not because the defensive coaches told him they didn't really like Floyd that much and had no plans to start him in this defense but because he missed the Senior Bowl like about half the GMs in the NFL? --they generally show and watch a couple days practice then leave. others arrive late and watch the last couple days and maybe the game. very few stay in mobile the entire time.

I hated the move at the time because I saw Floyd there too but also openly acknowledged I had hoped Floyd went before Richardson because Richardson was the fit in this defense.

The move is hardly some crazy leap given all the facts.
We badly needed interior OL. The interior OL flew off the board to the point we had 3 guys left with starting grades on them. You need r1 guys to start for you under this new CBA. And Dallas especially does with its high priced guys locked in. Floyd wasn't a day 1 starter here. Great upside but simply not expected to be better than Hatcher or Ratliff day 1.
So you take Floyd for his overall grade but then have to watch him rotate in as a rookie while you continue to play Costa, Bern. Livings as the G-C-G.

Yea that woulda been a sweet draft plan.

Jerry has done really stupid things. Trading a fortune for Galloway who was basically only worried about getting paid. Then repeating the mistake with RW11. Hiring Poodle and placing personnel in Lacewell's hands. Long list of really major offenses. Not that hard to focus on those real issues.

Bravo.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

Not sure how that board jives with the best GMs in the NFL, but clearly Jerry and Co. have not been at the elite level of evaluating and drafting.

 

[SWG9]

Oh, and BTW, you shouldn't complain about not taking a higher ranked player on the board then also complain the board means nothing because Dallas never gets it right anyway. One kinda undermines the other.

Yeah, it's funny how many people are doing that or tearing Floyd down to argue for the trade (completely ignoring that he was the fifth ranked player on our board).

I'm fine with the trade, I don't think it's a disaster by any means...but personally, I'd rather get the elite talent when it's there.

 

[LynnFoster]

So you take Floyd for his overall grade but then have to watch him rotate in as a rookie while you continue to play Costa, Bern. Livings as the G-C-G.

Totally agree. Another point is that Jones has a lot more insight into the Josh Brent situation and there is a chance Brent gets playing time at DT next year. If he does you have Rat and Hatcher starting with Brent and Lissemore behind them and maybe Crawford and/or Bass getting some reps as well.

It is crazy to pass on a top rated guy at 18, but its even crazier to watch your interior OL get destroyed for a second straight year because you drafted a DT that is on the bench while that happens.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

The ridiculous first round run on OL, which some of us predicted, forced Jerry's hand. Years of OL neglect culminated in an "absolutely must address the OL early in the draft" situation.

 

[Hoofbite]

Where are all the pictures? I've only seen the one.

 

[Hoofbite]

Matt Elam not there?

 

[speedkilz88]

Where are all the pictures? I've only seen the one.

Only these two have been posted that I've seen.

 

[MonsterD]

Matt Elam not there?

Nope.

 

[Hoofbite]

Only these two have been posted that I've seen.

What's with the star next to players? Reid?

Yeah, I'd like to see the rest of the pictures.....these don't do much for me. Jerry standing there covering a bunch of them.

 

[Awakened]

Getting more in this case probably meant not trading down as far as they did with San Francisco. But the targets under either trade were probably the same.

Well, it's pathetic that they didn't get San Fran to throw in a 7th rounder as well. They had THREE 7th rounders! Probably all we had to do was ask.

 

[17yearsandcounting]

Letting this get out again is pure amateur hour.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

Looks like the Cowboys Drafted for need in the 3rd and selected against the board to take Wilcox over Webb.

 

[proscout]

You are correct....

 

[gimmesix]

Letting this get out again is pure amateur hour.

I don't see a problem with it after the draft. What is anyone who counts going to do with it?

Instead, it solidifies to me that Dallas took the best player available at 31. No one higher rated was available to the Cowboys at that time on their board than Frederick. Now, they passed on their fifth-highest-rated player (Floyd) at 18 and had four other players they could have taken at that point who were rated higher than 18 and a first-round pick.

I like the fact, though, that they ended up with three players rated higher than 31 on their board (Frederick, Williams and Escobar). That should show us if their ratings mean anything. And technically, trading the 18th pick got Dallas the 22nd- and 23rd-rated players on their board, so that's good value with the picks.

 

[T-RO]

I'm not a JJ fan at all, but I do not believe it was Jerry's decision alone to pass on Floyd.

Jerry's decision was the decisive one. The one that counted We could have landed a guy #5 on our entire board.

The faces in the room were pretty downcast after that all went down..and when we ended up drafting a center who likely could have been available much later.

But the proof will be in the pudding. If Frederick and Williams can play...all will be forgiven.

 

[speedkilz88]

What's with the star next to players? Reid?

Yeah, I'd like to see the rest of the pictures.....these don't do much for me. Jerry standing there covering a bunch of them.

I've read two guesses. One being RKG/leader types or two being guys they were targeting. The leader types makes sense.

 

[coult44]

It amazes me that after 17-18 years of rebuilding some folks still defend Jones...This is the Dallas Freekin Cowboys..Aren't the standards supposed to be a wee bit higher. Anyone else would have been fired 14 years ago. You can say I have an agenda all you want. My agenda is to see the Dallas Cowboys be better than the Seahawks, Falcons, Ravens, and the rest of the NFL.. It's pitiful when teams like the 9ers and Texans are better than us...

 

[Toruk_Makto]

Not sure how that board jives with the best GMs in the NFL, but clearly Jerry and Co. have not been at the elite level of evaluating and drafting.

I don't know if it's luck or we turned a corner...but I don't see how anyone can look at our last 3 drafts and say anything but we have been a great drafting team lately.