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[gjkoeppen]

No, I’m providing more examples of QB’s dancing foolishly in practice.

Amazing how you interpret I’m comparing their QB skills and career. You really struggle interpreting intentions. Lol

What you don't get is not just Manning's football skills are better than Newton's, but just about every person who watches the NFL will also say Manning is a better person and leader than Newton. What else you don't get is Newton hasn't gained anyone's respect on a personal and leadership level yet on the patriots yet instead of going about dong that he's being a goof ball. If he had been there for at least a year and is recognized by his team mates as their leader then being a goof ball one day wouldn't mean anything, but he's the new kid on the block with very little recent history to win over any team in the first week of camp. He proved either he's not to bright or he doesn't care or both, but I seriously doubt he won over any fans from his new team mates doing that.


I fail to see how I'm misrepresenting you when you have continued to say "Certainly reaching the Super Bowl and earning a MVP would be meeting expectations." You can try to say I'm misrepresenting you all you want but that doesn't change what you have actually said.
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[CowboyStar88]

Keep on whining, California kid.

Who started a whiny thread? Wasn’t me.

Thanks appreciate the kid comment can’t believe I was 24 when I joined this site. I was feeling old when I hit 40.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Who started a whiny thread? Wasn’t me.

Thanks appreciate the kid comment can’t believe I was 24 when I joined this site. I was feeling old when I hit 40.

 

[Diehardblues]

What you don't get is not just Manning's football skills are better than Newton's, but just about every person who watches the NFL will also say Manning is a better person and leader than Newton. What else you don't get is Newton hasn't gained anyone's respect on a personal and leadership level yet on the patriots yet instead of going about dong that he's being a goof ball. If he had been there for at least a year and is recognized by his team mates as their leader then being a goof ball one day wouldn't mean anything, but he's the new kid on the block with very little recent history to win over any team in the first week of camp. He proved either he's not to bright or he doesn't care or both, but I seriously doubt he won over any fans from his new team mates doing that.


I fail to see how I'm misrepresenting you when you have continued to say "Certainly reaching the Super Bowl and earning a MVP would be meeting expectations." You can try to say I'm misrepresenting you all you want but that doesn't change what you have actually said.
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Wow. So you deny that reaching the SB and earning MVP didn’t meet expectations at least for one year ?

I get Manning’s skills are superior. Where did I ever say otherwise. You really have some reading issues. The Manning video was only about another QB foolishly dancing at practice.

Im playing devils advocate for Cam.

 

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[cern]

And then show them how to be a sore loser?

As opposed to what? A good loser? Sorry, I'm no fan of participation trophies. Especially at the professional level.

 

[cern]

Cam may answer the question, was it brady or belichik. I guess we'll see.

 

[Runwildboys]

Sorry AC, but that's some funny stuff right there. Lol

I'd have the same reaction if you'd done it to some else, so don't take my laughing personally.

 

[gjkoeppen]

Wow. So you deny that reaching the SB and earning MVP didn’t meet expectations at least for one year ?

I get Manning’s skills are superior. Where did I ever say otherwise. You really have some reading issues. The Manning video was only about another QB foolishly dancing at practice.

Im playing devils advocate for Cam.

Now who's misrepresnting things? I already conceded that his one single year lived up to being a first pick but I don't think one ourt of nine seasons covers it. One good season and 8 average at best seasons as a whole sin't living up to being the first player picked.
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[Runwildboys]

Cam may answer the question, was it brady or belichik. I guess we'll see.

Well, I think Cam needs to at least be pretty good to decide that. If he outright sucks, you can't really say Brady was the main reason for their success. You could maybe question Bill's eye for talent though.

 

[Diehardblues]

Cam may answer the question, was it brady or belichik. I guess we'll see.

It was a combination of both . Arguably greatest HC/ QB combo in NFL history.

We’ve already seen what Bill is without Brady . I’m more curious to see how Brady is without Bill.

Could Tampa be most improved team in NFC?

 

[Diehardblues]

Well, I think Cam needs to at least be pretty good to decide that. If he outright sucks, you can't really say Brady was the main reason for their success. You could maybe question Bill's eye for talent though.

Why, cause he took a chance on probably the most talented veteran QB available left in FA.

If Cam flakes or gets hurt again that won’t be a blemish on Bills eye for talent. More on his assessment of risk.

 

[cern]

Well, I think Cam needs to at least be pretty good to decide that. If he outright sucks, you can't really say Brady was the main reason for their success. You could maybe question Bill's eye for talent though.

Bill has maintained there will be a qb competion right up to the season opener. Nothing's etched in stone yet. But if there's anything we know about bill it's that he'll do what's best for his team. Cam will have to win the job.

 

[CowboyStar88]

Sorry AC, but that's some funny stuff right there. Lol

I'd have the same reaction if you'd done it to some else, so don't take my laughing personally.

It was meant to be funny and provide some humor brother.

 

[InTheZone]

Bill has maintained there will be a qb competion right up to the season opener. Nothing's etched in stone yet. But if there's anything we know about bill it's that he'll do what's best for his team. Cam will have to win the job.

that's how it should be for all teams

 

[GINeric]

Average-to-slightly-above-average material as a passer, but Cam is still starting material. Agreed. Cassel was strictly a backup type of QB.



Heed your own advice. You're the one complaining.

Not complaining at all... you're the one crying like a *****. I just stated facts. Learn the difference between the two lil guy!!!

 

[GINeric]

2017. Problem is, his one good year was nestled in w/ the 28th ranked D. Cam's was 6th.

Alex is pure bus driver. That's why SF moved on. Cam is a better playmaker, but can't hold onto the ball and fades in crunch time.

Alex Smith isn't that great. Neither is Cam.

I respect this. Atleast you came with stats unlike a whiny poster on here crying like a ***** instead of making an educated argument like you just did. I respect that.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Not complaining at all... you're the one crying like a *****. I just stated facts. Learn the difference between the two lil guy!!!

Lil guy? lol. Tough guy behind a computer screen.

Grow up, kid.

 

[basel90]

Newton took his team to the Super Bowl .
Newton is much cheaper than Dak
When Dak takes the cowboys to the SB , some comparison can happen concerning Dak . until then , Dak is an expensive QB with nice stats but no real achievements or important victories . The parade of excuses for Dak end this season . No more Garrett to blame . Put up or go away .

 

[cern]

Newton took his team to the Super Bowl .
Newton is much cheaper than Dak
When Dak takes the cowboys to the SB , some comparison can happen concerning Dak . until then , Dak is an expensive QB with nice stats but no real achievements or important victories . The parade of excuses for Dak end this season . No more Garrett to blame . Put up or go away .

i agree. with the departure of garrett, dak can now be fairly judged on his work. meritocracy as romo would say. he has a different coach. and he has arguably the best trio of wr's in the league. he's got one of the best rb's in the league. and still has a very good o-line. if he can't do it with that kind of talent, it won't say much for him.